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Old 09-20-2003, 10:52 AM   #1
Default Seek on-demand AV scanner to complement NAV


What anti-virus scanner can I install for use as an on-demand scanner
on my XP/NTFS system.

I already have Norton Anti-Virus installed an wish to keep it.


Martin

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PS - I had thought about F-PROT but I heard that it is not keeping it
definitions as up to date as it should and has not been catching the
latest WEN worm as quickly as it might have.


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Old 09-20-2003, 11:38 AM   #2
Bill
 
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:52:59 +0100, "Martin C.E."
<> wrote:

>I already have Norton Anti-Virus installed an wish to keep it.



Then why would you need another one if Norton is doing an adequate
job?


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Old 09-20-2003, 03:09 PM   #3
kurt wismer
 
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Martin C.E. wrote:

> What anti-virus scanner can I install for use as an on-demand scanner
> on my XP/NTFS system.
>
> I already have Norton Anti-Virus installed an wish to keep it.
>
>
> Martin
>
> ==========
>
> PS - I had thought about F-PROT but I heard that it is not keeping it
> definitions as up to date as it should and has not been catching the
> latest WEN worm as quickly as it might have.


don't know where you heard that about f-prot... i certainly haven't had
any problems with it and it has alerted on swen for me (many, many,
many times)...

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they get hope from fire and smoke as the weak grow strong
hungry people don't stay hungry for long
they get hope from fire and smoke as they reach for the dawn"



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Old 09-20-2003, 03:43 PM   #4
Pete
 
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:09:51 -0400, kurt wismer <> wrote:

>> PS - I had thought about F-PROT but I heard that it is not keeping it
>> definitions as up to date as it should and has not been catching the
>> latest WEN worm as quickly as it might have.

>
>don't know where you heard that about f-prot... i certainly haven't had
>any problems with it and it has alerted on swen for me (many, many,
>many times)...


That's good to know, I'm just trialling it now.

Regards,

Pete.

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Old 09-20-2003, 10:38 PM   #5
Martin C.E.
 
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Bill <> wrote:

>>I already have Norton Anti-Virus installed an wish to keep it.

>
>
> Then why would you need another one if Norton is doing an adequate
> job?
>


I keep Norton because I think it is the best U can afford but that
does not mean it is doing a 100% job.


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Old 09-21-2003, 09:53 AM   #6
[ Doc Jeff ]
 
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:52:59 +0100, "Martin C.E."
<> wrote:

>What anti-virus scanner can I install for use as an on-demand scanner
>on my XP/NTFS system.
>
>I already have Norton Anti-Virus installed an wish to keep it.


I'm fond of F-Prot. I'm slowly letting it take over my AV scanning
needs. (Thank you, Col. Flagg for that tip!)

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If you're too scared to go look for yourself, ask me
about COTSE. I'd be happy to tell you about it.


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Old 09-21-2003, 05:59 PM   #7
FromTheRafters
 
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"Martin C.E." <> wrote in message news:93FC6EB5A1377835A@130.133.1.4...

> PS - I had thought about F-PROT but I heard that it is not keeping it
> definitions as up to date as it should and has not been catching the
> latest WEN worm as quickly as it might have.


Anybody getting caught by the day zero effect is doing something
else wrong. F-prot is still good, but you always must supplement
your on demand scanning with other safe practices.




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Old 09-21-2003, 06:36 PM   #8
Martin C.E.
 
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"FromTheRafters" <!> wrote:

>> PS - I had thought about F-PROT but I heard that it is not
>> keeping it definitions as up to date as it should and has not
>> been catching the latest WEN worm as quickly as it might have.

>
> Anybody getting caught by the day zero effect is doing something
> else wrong. F-prot is still good, but you always must supplement
> your on demand scanning with other safe practices.


What is the day zero effect?


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Old 09-21-2003, 09:50 PM   #9
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"Martin C.E." <> wrote in message news:Xns93FDBD5965254835A@130.133.1.4...
> "FromTheRafters" <!> wrote:
>
> >> PS - I had thought about F-PROT but I heard that it is not
> >> keeping it definitions as up to date as it should and has not
> >> been catching the latest WEN worm as quickly as it might have.

> >
> > Anybody getting caught by the day zero effect is doing something
> > else wrong. F-prot is still good, but you always must supplement
> > your on demand scanning with other safe practices.

>
> What is the day zero effect?


It is that critical span of vulnerability between the time a particular
malware is unleashed, and the time that detection critieria is added
to the anti-virus programs to try and protect you.

1) Malware is unleashed
2) Malware becomes noticed (pops up on the "radar" so to speak)
3) Malware is analyzed, and a suitable criteria formed for its detection.
4) The detection criteria made available for those who actively seek it.
5) The detection criteria is added to the definition set to be downloaded.
6) You update your AV which implements the new definition.

Day zero can be week zero, month zero, maybe even never zero
if step 2 is not reached.




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Old 09-23-2003, 10:01 AM   #10
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Martin C.E. schrieb:

> I keep Norton because I think it is the best U can afford


Well, there you make a mistake. It's Symantec's marketing which is one
of the best, but not their scanner.

So try Kaspersky.

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