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We are noticing a massive increase in connections from Port "8" on external
machines to Port "0" on our machine. We are getting roughly 4,000 per day. My logs suggest most of the increase is from computers on our DSL subnet. A sample entry is: <SAMPLE> Sep 9 01:02:50 hurl kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0 PROTO=1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 L=92 S=0x00 I=59720 F=0x0000 T=125 (#5) <END SAMPLE> I have tried scanning my ports externally and get reports that the port is not available. My computer is running SUSE Linux 7.2 with the firwall turned running. Interestingly, our WinXP boxes do not show the same kind of activity in their logs. I really have two questions. Is there a way to stop ACCEPTing these connections? Activity increased after the latest email virus hit. Is it possible this kind of activity is part of a denial of service attack which is not intended to cripple specific machines, but to cripple the internet in general? We are experiencing an overall sluggishness in internet responsiveness in recent days. Fred_McGriff |
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Fred_McGriff wrote:
> We are noticing a massive increase in connections from Port "8" on external >machines to Port "0" on our machine. We are getting roughly 4,000 per day. > My logs suggest most of the increase is from computers on our DSL subnet. A >sample entry is: It isn't port 8 & 0, it's type 8 & 0. ><SAMPLE> >Sep 9 01:02:50 hurl kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0 PROTO=1 >xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 L=92 S=0x00 I=59720 F=0x0000 T=125 (#5) ><END SAMPLE> Looking at the length (92), that tells me it's probably the variant of the Blaster worm that's supposed to patch susceptible machines. > I really have two questions. > > Is there a way to stop ACCEPTing these connections? Yes, drop incoming, unsolicited ICMP ping requests. Simple. > Activity increased after the latest email virus hit. Is it possible this >kind of activity is part of a denial of service attack which is not intended >to cripple specific machines, but to cripple the internet in general? We are >experiencing an overall sluggishness in internet responsiveness in recent >days. You'd have to ask the writer of the worm. The Saint |
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> > We are noticing a massive increase in connections from Port "8" on
external > >machines to Port "0" on our machine. We are getting roughly 4,000 per day. > > My logs suggest most of the increase is from computers on our DSL subnet. A > >sample entry is: > > It isn't port 8 & 0, it's type 8 & 0. > > ><SAMPLE> > >Sep 9 01:02:50 hurl kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0 PROTO=1 > >xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 L=92 S=0x00 I=59720 F=0x0000 T=125 (#5) > ><END SAMPLE> So, this log entry: Sep 9 01:00:37 hurl kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0 PROTO=6 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:58188 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80 L=60 S=0x00 I=52194 F=0x4000 T=49 SYN (#14) is for incoming type 58188 and type 80 not port 58188 on the external machine and port 80 on my machine? If so, what is the practical difference between calling it a type instead of a port? > > Is there a way to stop ACCEPTing these connections? > > Yes, drop incoming, unsolicited ICMP ping requests. Simple. How does one instruct SUSE Linux to do this? I must be blind because my searches for help have drawn blanks during the past couple of months -- hence my decision to try here. Fred_McGriff |
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"Fred_McGriff" <> wrote in message news:Kio8b.117117$kW.63263@edtnps84... > > > We are noticing a massive increase in connections from Port "8" on > external > > >machines to Port "0" on our machine. We are getting roughly 4,000 per > day. > > > My logs suggest most of the increase is from computers on our DSL > subnet. A > > >sample entry is: > > > > It isn't port 8 & 0, it's type 8 & 0. > > > > ><SAMPLE> > > >Sep 9 01:02:50 hurl kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0 PROTO=1 > > >xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 L=92 S=0x00 I=59720 F=0x0000 T=125 > (#5) > > ><END SAMPLE> > > So, this log entry: > I get this too, as The Saint said, these are ping requests. They come from various viruses trying to know which hosts are "alive". My average is 5/minutes on my home PPPoE link. > Sep 9 01:00:37 hurl kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0 PROTO=6 > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:58188 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80 L=60 S=0x00 I=52194 F=0x4000 T=49 > SYN (#14) > > is for incoming type 58188 and type 80 not port 58188 on the external > machine and port 80 on my machine? If so, what is the practical difference > between calling it a type instead of a port? > These are TCP packets. You may know the difference by looking at the "PROTO" filed, which indicates 6 here (TCP) and 1 for the other (ICMP). TCP is used to create virtual "connections" on IP protocol. ICMP is used to tell other hosts what happens, usually when a problems occurs. You may know which number is what on IANA web site : http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers TCP uses ports instead of type and codes. List of ports and their standards is here : http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers Now this line indicate that someone is trying to access a web server on your host (destination port 80). > > > Is there a way to stop ACCEPTing these connections? > > > > Yes, drop incoming, unsolicited ICMP ping requests. Simple. > > How does one instruct SUSE Linux to do this? I must be blind because my > searches for help have drawn blanks during the past couple of months -- > hence my decision to try here. > > I think you should take a look on "iptables" or "netfilter" documentation. This is a built-in firewall for linux kernel, and should always be configured properly. Alot of information on this : www.netfilter.org Hope it helps Max Maxime Ducharme |
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> > > > We are noticing a massive increase in connections from Port "8" on
> > external > > > >machines to Port "0" on our machine. We are getting roughly 4,000 per > > day. > > > > My logs suggest most of the increase is from computers on our DSL > > subnet. A > > > >sample entry is: > > I get this too, as The Saint said, these are ping requests. They come from > various viruses trying to know which hosts are "alive". My average is > 5/minutes > on my home PPPoE link. > > > > Is there a way to stop ACCEPTing these connections? > > > > > > Yes, drop incoming, unsolicited ICMP ping requests. Simple. > > Thank you for your help and patience. I finally figured it out. As always, these things become clearer once I come here or other news groups and display my ignorance. Under SUSE firewall, you can turn off ICMP in firewall.rc.config as follows: # Allow ping on firewall FW_ALLOW_PING_FW="no" # Allow ping on DMZ targets FW_ALLOW_PING_DMZ="no" While some of these are pings from viruses, some organizations who were pinging us in the past claim they are doing so to verify that our server is up and running and the status of the connection so that they can do a better job of servicing the needs of their customers who are also trying to access our website. With that in mind, is that a good enough reason to keep accepting these ping requests? Is there ever a valid reason to accept ping requests these days? Would dropping them make a difference? Fred_McGriff |
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Fred_McGriff wrote:
> With that in mind, is that a good enough reason to keep accepting these >ping requests? Is there ever a valid reason to accept ping requests these >days? Would dropping them make a difference? Normally, it's not unacceptable to accept pings, but now I drop all unsolicited pings. I do, however, allow select types, like Type 3 (dest unreachable, etc.) but with a very carefully crafted ruleset. The Saint |
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