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In article <>, Kimba W. Lion
<> wrote:

> Invid Fan <> wrote:
>
> >Toho has tried to
> >keep the original Godzilla out of the US market, refusing to license it.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...mbwlionscor-20

First I've heard they were finally going to release it. Thus, my
comment is now that they have kept it out of the market before this ^_^

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SoHillsGuy wrote on [29 May 2006 12:43:47 -0700]:
>
> Justin wrote:
>> VHS had its own region coding built in for the longest time, with only
>> North America and Japan being in the same region. Maybe a few smaller
>> markets.
>
>
> There's no "region coding" in VHS, at least in the same created
> differences on DVDs. The differences in VHS had everything to do with
> broadcasted picture lines. Differences in country standards created
> incompatible tapes. The difference in DVDs is created purely to
> control the market.

Well duh. What do you think I was talking about?

Tarkus wrote on [Mon, 29 May 2006 13:02:05 -0700]:
> On 5/29/2006 10:36:09 AM, Kimba W. Lion wrote:
>
>> Region coding has nothing to do with the quick releases. DVD is where
>> the money is these days, so that's why they're hot to get things onto
>> DVD.
>>
>> Region coding is stupid, but not from Hollywood's POV. They very much
>> want to keep US people from sampling what the rest of the world has to
>> offer.
>
> That's not the primary reason. The primary reason is they don't want
> certain markets getting DVDs before the theatrical releases in those
> markets.
>
> Of course, P2P is somewhat rendering that null and void.

Hardly.

In article <447b093b$0$7864$>,
Oldus Fartus <> wrote:
>Netmask wrote:
>> Many of my friends now have 3 or even 4 external DVD player/burners
>> dedicated to a particular region with USA, Europe, South America labels on
>> each . At around $50 each unit and with one $15 IDE to USB adapter it's a
>> simple matter to plug/unplug. The whole arrangement of region coding is just
>> stupid as so many people travel across continents and around the world -
>> damned if I'm going to keep a dedicated collection of DVD's in my London
>> office and another in Melbourne..
>>
>>
>
>You and your friends are exceedingly dimwitted then.
>
>Yes, region coding is stupid, but only because it is so easily bypassed,
>not because it forces Yuppies to buy three or four different DVD
>player/burners.

Instead of buying 4 burners, why not just buy one and flash it with RPC1
modified firmware?

>
> Instead of buying 4 burners, why not just buy one and flash it with RPC1
> modified firmware?
>

yes that is what I have done, modified every DVD player I have - but there
are thousands of people, ordinary consumers that can't be bothered with any
thing perceived as "technical" - they will quite happily 'buy' their
solution. I don't label people as 'yuppies' or anything else for that matter
it's none of my business how people including friends spend their money -
maybe that's an Australian thing not to moralise or care about these
things - I don't know? Don't care....

The point is the policy has been passed by with P2P, the cheapness of the
DVD units and it just doesn't work anymore, not that it ever did for anyone
who was computer hardware literate.

Kimba W. Lion wrote:
> Invid Fan <> wrote:
>
> >Toho has tried to
> >keep the original Godzilla out of the US market, refusing to license it.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...mbwlionscor-20

and meanwhile Japan has this:

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.asp...id-1003589200/

-goro-

Justin wrote:
> SoHillsGuy wrote on [29 May 2006 12:43:47 -0700]:
> >
> > Justin wrote:
> >> VHS had its own region coding built in for the longest time, with only
> >> North America and Japan being in the same region. Maybe a few smaller
> >> markets.
> >
> >
> > There's no "region coding" in VHS, at least in the same created
> > differences on DVDs. The differences in VHS had everything to do with
> > broadcasted picture lines. Differences in country standards created
> > incompatible tapes. The difference in DVDs is created purely to
> > control the market.
>
> Well duh. What do you think I was talking about?

You say it had "region coding." It didn't. It wasn't something "built
in," as though on purpose. It was just different. Having
non-compatible broadcast standards is clearly not the same as
intentionally making things different to control a market. The same
result, yes. But not the same reasoning behind it, as you seemed to
imply. If you meant otherwise, then I'm sorry but you used the wrong
terminology.

SoHillsGuy wrote on [29 May 2006 18:44:18 -0700]:
>
> Justin wrote:
>> SoHillsGuy wrote on [29 May 2006 12:43:47 -0700]:
>> >
>> > Justin wrote:
>> >> VHS had its own region coding built in for the longest time, with only
>> >> North America and Japan being in the same region. Maybe a few smaller
>> >> markets.
>> >
>> >
>> > There's no "region coding" in VHS, at least in the same created
>> > differences on DVDs. The differences in VHS had everything to do with
>> > broadcasted picture lines. Differences in country standards created
>> > incompatible tapes. The difference in DVDs is created purely to
>> > control the market.
>>
>> Well duh. What do you think I was talking about?
>
> You say it had "region coding." It didn't. It wasn't something "built
> in," as though on purpose. It was just different. Having
> non-compatible broadcast standards is clearly not the same as
> intentionally making things different to control a market. The same
> result, yes. But not the same reasoning behind it, as you seemed to
> imply. If you meant otherwise, then I'm sorry but you used the wrong
> terminology.

Whether it was intentional or not, it restricted product to certain
regions.

On 5/29/2006 6:22:29 PM, Goro wrote:

> Kimba W. Lion wrote:
>> Invid Fan <> wrote:
>>
>>> Toho has tried to keep the original Godzilla out of the US market,
>>> refusing to license it.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...mbwlionscor-20
>
> and meanwhile Japan has this:
>
> http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.asp...id-1003589200/

That is too cool!
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Goro wrote on [29 May 2006 18:22:29 -0700]:
>
> Kimba W. Lion wrote:
>> Invid Fan <> wrote:
>>
>> >Toho has tried to
>> >keep the original Godzilla out of the US market, refusing to license it.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...mbwlionscor-20
>
> and meanwhile Japan has this:
>
> http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.asp...id-1003589200/

had