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Using this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ines_%28DOM%29

I made some rather unscientific computations of the levels of DOM
(Document Object Model), ie, Javascript + CSS, support for IE 6, Opera
7, 8 and 9 and Firefox 1.5

Here they are:

DOM 1 supports how many

IE5 264 (15 more are broken)
IE6 293 (15 more are broken)
Opera 7 337 (1 is broken)
Opera 8 337 (1 is broken)
Opera 9 370 (1 is broken)
Firefox 367

Opera 9 barely edges out Firefox for DOM 1 support, but it is basically
a tie. IE is quite a bit behind. Even Opera 7 bests it considerably.


DOM 2 supports how many

IE5 43 (2 more are broken)
IE6 44 (2 more are broken)
Opera 7 70
Opera 8 116
Opera 9 154
Firefox 176

Firefox definitely wins for DOM 2 support, but Opera 9 also does very
well. IE6 looks like a disaster for DOM 2. Even the older Opera 7 does
much better than IE. Even more shameful is that IE barely improved from
v5 to v6


DOM 3 supports how many

IE5 0
IE6 0
Opera 7 1
Opera 8 7
Opera 9 54
Firefox 19

Although DOM 3 is very new and not supported well by browsers, Opera 9
does dramatically better than any other browser in implementing it. IE,
shamefully, has not implemented one spec, and has not improved again
between v5 and v6. Firefox does a decent job of implementing DOM 3,
considering that no browser implements much of it.


Totals

IE5 307
IE6 337
Opera 7 408
Opera 8 460
Opera 9 578
Firefox 562


For the totals, Opera 9 has the best DOM support of any major browser!
Yaaaay! Firefox is quite close though. IE is horribly behind and has
barely improved from one old version to the next. Even Opera 7 is much
better than IE6. The only conclusion is that when it comes to DOM, IE is
an incredibly broken browser. The fact that 85% of the net is using this
stupid, broken browser is just disgusting.


Methods: I counted them by hand, so there may be some errors. Feel free
to recheck. I think my totals are pretty good though.

Bob wrote:

> DOM 3 supports how many
>
> IE5 0
> IE6 0
> Opera 7 1
> Opera 8 7
> Opera 9 54
> Firefox 19

Opera has recently been doing a lot of work improving their DOM
implementation to help support their new "widgets" feature.

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Toby Inkster wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
>> DOM 3 supports how many
>>
>> IE5 0
>> IE6 0
>> Opera 7 1
>> Opera 8 7
>> Opera 9 54
>> Firefox 19
>
> Opera has recently been doing a lot of work improving their DOM
> implementation to help support their new "widgets" feature.

What's their "widgets" feature?

__/ [ Bob ] on Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:27 \__

> Toby Inkster wrote:
>> Bob wrote:
>>
>>> DOM 3 supports how many
>>>
>>> IE5 0
>>> IE6 0
>>> Opera 7 1
>>> Opera 8 7
>>> Opera 9 54
>>> Firefox 19
>>
>> Opera has recently been doing a lot of work improving their DOM
>> implementation to help support their new "widgets" feature.


This comes from the biggest Opera fan whom I know.


> What's their "widgets" feature?


Have a look at the announcement in their latest release. It's a brilliant new
feature, which to me at least, _still_ gives no compelling reason to ditch
Firefox with its plug-ins.

Best wishes,

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> This comes from the biggest Opera fan whom I know.
> > What's their "widgets" feature?
> Have a look at the announcement in their latest release. It's a brilliant new
> feature, which to me at least, _still_ gives no compelling reason to ditch
> Firefox with its plug-ins.

What you couldn't just say what this brilliant new feature is? I
haven't the time (or the bother) to go to their site and read through
their new features list. Guess I will just have to stick with FF.

__/ [ Travis Newbury ] on Wednesday 17 May 2006 12:00 \__

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> This comes from the biggest Opera fan whom I know.
>> > What's their "widgets" feature?
>> Have a look at the announcement in their latest release. It's a brilliant
>> new feature, which to me at least, _still_ gives no compelling reason to
>> ditch Firefox with its plug-ins.
>
> What you couldn't just say what this brilliant new feature is? I
> haven't the time (or the bother) to go to their site and read through
> their new features list. Guess I will just have to stick with FF.

The official:

http://my.opera.com/community/dev/widgets/

The 'meat' (screenshots):


http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinocho/111771754/

Best wishes,

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> >> Have a look at the announcement in their latest release. It's a brilliant
> >> new feature, which to me at least, _still_ gives no compelling reason to
> >> ditch Firefox with its plug-ins.
> > What you couldn't just say what this brilliant new feature is? I
> > haven't the time (or the bother) to go to their site and read through
> > their new features list. Guess I will just have to stick with FF.
> The official:
> http://my.opera.com/community/dev/widgets/
> The 'meat' (screenshots):
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinocho/111771754/
> Best wishes,


That's what I like. Service with a smile.

thanks

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> The official:
> http://my.opera.com/community/dev/widgets/
> The 'meat' (screenshots):
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinocho/111771754/


Looking mighty like a new form of popup window to me.... (the abuse
factor is there)

This is something that would make me say away from opera.

__/ [ Travis Newbury ] on Wednesday 17 May 2006 12:16 \__

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> >> Have a look at the announcement in their latest release. It's a
>> >> brilliant new feature, which to me at least, _still_ gives no
>> >> compelling reason to ditch Firefox with its plug-ins.
>> > What you couldn't just say what this brilliant new feature is? I
>> > haven't the time (or the bother) to go to their site and read through
>> > their new features list. Guess I will just have to stick with FF.
>> The official:
>> http://my.opera.com/community/dev/widgets/
>> The 'meat' (screenshots):
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinocho/111771754/
>> Best wishes,
>
> That's what I like. Service with a smile.
>
> thanks


If you like toys, that is. They adopt the same name and concepts as that
which you find in OS X, unlike the upcoming "Gadgets" in Windows Vista. They
are merely distractions. Linux has had these for _ages_ (probably going back
to the previous decade). Unlike clocks, some of them have actual use, e.g.
system monitoring. At Web browser-level, I doubt there is much you can add.
Firefox extensions are far less obtrusive and they take less resources and
space. If you want to run over 20 of these simultaneously, flash must go.


__/ [ Travis Newbury ] added on Wednesday 17 May 2006 12:20 \__

> Looking mighty like a new form of popup window to me.... (the abuse
> factor is there)
>
> This is something that would make me stay away from opera.


Exactly my sentiments. Nice looking, but only if you go for flash rather than
substance. Mac factor = less work | more demoware. After a few hours or
days, you will get past that stage of initial excitement and try to find out
how to rule the beast, rather than have the Beast^tm taking over your screen
space/CPU.

Best wishes,

Roy

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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Bob
<>
wrote
on Tue, 16 May 2006 23:49:21 -0700
<>:
> Using this page
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ines_%28DOM%29
>
> I made some rather unscientific computations of the levels of DOM
> (Document Object Model), ie, Javascript + CSS, support for IE 6, Opera
> 7, 8 and 9 and Firefox 1.5

[comparisons snipped for brevity]

Interesting stuff...more grist for the mill, of course. This might be
good for a short WebPage.

Do you have anything comparable for CSS1, CSS2, CSS2.1, and (if it's
standard by now) CSS3 support?

Also, is there something for Javascript?

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