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I read that the Digital Rebel can do ISO 100 thru 1600. Are they
comparable to good film at the same ISO points?

"Veggie" <> wrote in message
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> I read that the Digital Rebel can do ISO 100 thru 1600. Are they
> comparable to good film at the same ISO points?

The 300D is very low noise at ISO 100 and better than ISO 400 film, at that
same sensitivity. 800 on the 300D is somewhat noisy and 1600 is not a good
idea unless that is the only way to take a shot. Post processing can help
with ISO 800 and 1600 shots from this camera. Google for "Neat Image" and
others.

I would say better than the same value than film..


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> "Veggie" <> wrote in message
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> > I read that the Digital Rebel can do ISO 100 thru 1600. Are they
> > comparable to good film at the same ISO points?
>
> The 300D is very low noise at ISO 100 and better than ISO 400 film, at
that
> same sensitivity. 800 on the 300D is somewhat noisy and 1600 is not a
good
> idea unless that is the only way to take a shot. Post processing can help
> with ISO 800 and 1600 shots from this camera. Google for "Neat Image" and
> others.
>
>

>
>
>on the 300D
>
Is the 10D any better, or does it use the same sensor as the 300D?

Charles Schuler wrote:

>"Veggie" <> wrote in message
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>>I read that the Digital Rebel can do ISO 100 thru 1600. Are they
>>comparable to good film at the same ISO points?
>>
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>
>The 300D is very low noise at ISO 100 and better than ISO 400 film, at that
>same sensitivity. 800 on the 300D is somewhat noisy and 1600 is not a good
>idea unless that is the only way to take a shot. Post processing can help
>with ISO 800 and 1600 shots from this camera. Google for "Neat Image" and
>others.
>
>
>
>

Veggie wrote:
> I read that the Digital Rebel can do ISO 100 thru 1600. Are they
> comparable to good film at the same ISO points?

I would say that ISO400 on Rebel would be about the same as 200 ASA on film.
You can get incredibly good results at ISO400, and very good at 800. ISO1600
is usable as a last resort option (something like 800 ASA film) but at that
value you'll get some color clipping, especially in the reds.

So, Digital Rebel is twice as good as any film when it comes down to grain,
or to be precise - noise. Film grain and digital noise are nothing alike,
because high sensitivity film is well... grainy. But high ISO setting on
digital camera results as a pattern made of pixels that have different
colours then they're supposed to. For example, you shoot at a clean red
paper at ISO 1600 and get darker or greenish or bluish dots.

Anyway, there are powerful programs that eliminate digital noise (and do a
great job too) so you can stretch your options even further. I have 10D and
shooting at ISO800 is something I feel completely comfortable with... Not
somethnig I would do so easily a few years ago...

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You might want to specify what make of film ?
as diff film has diff characteristic.

but in short ... yep .. they are similar OR better

=bob=

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"Veggie" <> wrote in message
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> >on the 300D
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> Is the 10D any better, or does it use the same sensor as the 300D?
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Same sensor, so they're more or less the same.

Mark

I usually use a digital point and shoot (Canon S410). I hardly use the
film SLR anymore. For film, I mean consumer grade film- Royal Gold 200,
or Superia 400.

On my last vacation, I remembered some of the pains of film. Like if
you're getting close to the end of a roll of film, you empty it and
reload so that you have a reasonable number of shots in it.

It made me think that it might be time to make the digital SLR jump,
which left me wondering what kind of image quality I could expect
compared to film.


[BnH] wrote:

>You might want to specify what make of film ?
>as diff film has diff characteristic.
>
>but in short ... yep .. they are similar OR better
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>=bob=
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Veggie <> wrote in news:1EBTc.427$:

> I usually use a digital point and shoot (Canon S410). I hardly use the
> film SLR anymore. For film, I mean consumer grade film- Royal Gold 200,
> or Superia 400.
>
> On my last vacation, I remembered some of the pains of film. Like if
> you're getting close to the end of a roll of film, you empty it and
> reload so that you have a reasonable number of shots in it.
>
> It made me think that it might be time to make the digital SLR jump,
> which left me wondering what kind of image quality I could expect
> compared to film.

If you use the best low sensitivity film and the best scanners,
then 35 mm film SLR is better than a DSLR.

If you don't, it is the other way around.


/Roland

"Veggie" <> wrote in message
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> I read that the Digital Rebel can do ISO 100 thru 1600. Are they
> comparable to good film at the same ISO points?

The method used in the ISO standard defining photosensitivity ratings
for digicams, is aimed at getting comparable numbers for film and
digicams. However, there may be a small difference due to the noise
characteristics or the dynamic range of the camera electronics.

So roughly comparable. Image quality is something entirely different,
but that wasn't the question.

Bart