70-282 Exam Information

Hi

I must dis agree with you completely.

1/ We as Gold Partners are guide to take this exam for SBS. (We are one of
the largest in UK)
2/ The current prep tests/ booksand the course DO NOT COVER anything to do
with the exam I took.
3/ If SBS is a big part of it, WHY so little questions on SBS.

I am renewing my MSCE. I think I will just take the normal exams,Exchange etc.
This Exam and course has wasted one month of my time. And my money on
course/books/preps.

It was like taking an Exam in German, only to get French question, BECAUSE
THEY ARE ALL LANGS.

If you are taking SBS EXam, you need to think in SBS. YOU ADD USERS IN A
DIFFERENT WAY.
If I answered Users and computers it would be wrong for this test. The mix
has been done wrong.

I think that we will be dropping SBS from out products. (As it my Decisions).
Maybe this was Microsofts IDEA not to sell SBS




"Montreal MCSA" wrote:

> Hi Jim.
>
> I had not seen your initial complaint, but let me answer it here. Microsoft
> changed the exam because there were too many complaints that the original was
> too easy. I don't remember the exact number but the pass rate was in the
> stratosphere.
>
> Having said that they did not change the subject material. The courseware
> is the same and the material being tested is the same. None of that has been
> changed.
>
> It is not that 70-282 has nothing to do with SBS, that is not true. It is
> just not excusively on SBS and it never was. It is titled Planning,
> Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for the Small and Medium-Sized
> Business. Is SBS a big part of that? Yes. Is it the only aspect of it? Not
> at all.
>
> As for stopping partners from needing this exam for SBS validation that is
> firstly to my knowledge not true. The requirements for joining the Small
> Business Specialist Community (SBSC) have not changed. It is also known as
> an equalizer for smaller companies who would not qualify for GOLD Partner
> status. It is the one domain where Registered Partners and God Certified
> Partners are treated equally.
>
> Good luck to you!
>
> Mitch
> --
> MDG, MCSA
>
>
> "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
>
> > I posted a complaint about the change in this Exam, it was remove3d from
> > the newsgroup.
> >
> >
> > Why
> > Is microsoft unwilling to have complaints aired???
> >
> > The complaint was:
> > How can you change a EXAM, without first
> > 1/ Suppling courseware
> > 2/ Changing the course (which is sold to us at a cost)
> > 3/ Informing GOLD partners that the EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SBS.
> > 4/ Stopping Partners from needing this Exam for SBS valididation.
> >
> > This is a valid complaint
> >
> >
> > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> >
> > > HI CSCAdmin,
> > >
> > > You can e-mail me at newsgroups at mitchgarvis dot com. You have me
> > > intrigued
> > >
> > > Mitch
> > > --
> > > MDG, MCSA
> > >
> > >
> > > "CSCADMIN" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Montreal MCSA,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to contact you offline via email.
> > > >
> > > > How may I proceed with emailing you.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know...
> > > >
> > > > Thank You.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HI Aman,
> > > > >
> > > > > I took the test a few months ago and honestly it was so easy that I
> > > > > complained to Microsoft that they were making meaningless the letters MCP.
> > > > > However if I am not mistaken there were 50 questions and 170 minutes.
> > > > > Without studying and with a fever I finished in 65 minutes and scored an 897.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck and let us know how it goes!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitch
> > > > > --
> > > > > MDG, MCSA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aman Tech" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could any one please tell me how many questions, does the 70-282 Exam has?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also how many minutes long is the test.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aman

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Hi

I have been checking up.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp
States that the course and exam are in line.

There is nothing in the stated course about SQl and Excahnged migrations.
yet in the exam there were questions, Lookin the newsgroup lots are
complaining about this.

The Exam has moved away from the stated objectives..

IE Course and Exam should be on same subject.

I have just wasted time, I could have been taking the exchange or active
directory exams. There stated objective are clear.

Microsoft wrote the course, maybe they should keep them together. Otherwise
people will want there money back???



"Montreal MCSA" wrote:

> Hi Jim.
>
> I had not seen your initial complaint, but let me answer it here. Microsoft
> changed the exam because there were too many complaints that the original was
> too easy. I don't remember the exact number but the pass rate was in the
> stratosphere.
>
> Having said that they did not change the subject material. The courseware
> is the same and the material being tested is the same. None of that has been
> changed.
>
> It is not that 70-282 has nothing to do with SBS, that is not true. It is
> just not excusively on SBS and it never was. It is titled Planning,
> Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for the Small and Medium-Sized
> Business. Is SBS a big part of that? Yes. Is it the only aspect of it? Not
> at all.
>
> As for stopping partners from needing this exam for SBS validation that is
> firstly to my knowledge not true. The requirements for joining the Small
> Business Specialist Community (SBSC) have not changed. It is also known as
> an equalizer for smaller companies who would not qualify for GOLD Partner
> status. It is the one domain where Registered Partners and God Certified
> Partners are treated equally.
>
> Good luck to you!
>
> Mitch
> --
> MDG, MCSA
>
>
> "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
>
> > I posted a complaint about the change in this Exam, it was remove3d from
> > the newsgroup.
> >
> >
> > Why
> > Is microsoft unwilling to have complaints aired???
> >
> > The complaint was:
> > How can you change a EXAM, without first
> > 1/ Suppling courseware
> > 2/ Changing the course (which is sold to us at a cost)
> > 3/ Informing GOLD partners that the EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SBS.
> > 4/ Stopping Partners from needing this Exam for SBS valididation.
> >
> > This is a valid complaint
> >
> >
> > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> >
> > > HI CSCAdmin,
> > >
> > > You can e-mail me at newsgroups at mitchgarvis dot com. You have me
> > > intrigued
> > >
> > > Mitch
> > > --
> > > MDG, MCSA
> > >
> > >
> > > "CSCADMIN" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Montreal MCSA,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to contact you offline via email.
> > > >
> > > > How may I proceed with emailing you.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know...
> > > >
> > > > Thank You.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HI Aman,
> > > > >
> > > > > I took the test a few months ago and honestly it was so easy that I
> > > > > complained to Microsoft that they were making meaningless the letters MCP.
> > > > > However if I am not mistaken there were 50 questions and 170 minutes.
> > > > > Without studying and with a fever I finished in 65 minutes and scored an 897.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck and let us know how it goes!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitch
> > > > > --
> > > > > MDG, MCSA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aman Tech" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could any one please tell me how many questions, does the 70-282 Exam has?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also how many minutes long is the test.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aman

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Hi Jim,

I am sorry that you feel that way, but I am not entirely sure how you would
have me respond to your points in two posts.

If you feel that you have wasted your time by studying material that will be
pertinent to your career if not an exam then it is too bad but I will be
honest, I have spoken with a lot of people who have written the exam both
before and after the changes and most of them are satisfied with the changes.

Again I will repeat that Gold Certified Partners are not supposed to have
any advantage whatsoever with the SBSC program. Frankly when I was told
about the program I was upset because I was not to receive any advantages,
and when it was explained to me that the big advantages were for small
businesses rather than Gold Partners I was satisfied. Obviously you are not.

I have to ask though... do you work with Small Business Server, or were you
relying solely on studying? As with every Microsoft exam they tell you ahead
of time that you should have real experience before writing the exam. I have
been working with it for quite some time and was therefore comfortable in the
exam without the course and studying. However you are right, they do expect
the SBS answers, so adding users should not be done through ADUC.

Both SQL Server and Exchange Migrations are a part of SBS, but it will often
be the case that they put answers in that do not apply as wrong answers. If
you overthink the answers often you will get caught.

In closing I am sorry that you are considering dropping the SBS line because
you are upset, and would welcome the opportunity to help you off-line to
resolve your concerns. I know that Microsoft has made extreme progress in
the past two years to make the product what it is and I honestly believe it
is the right solution for small businesses. If you are unhappy please e-mail
me at mitch at mitchgarvis dot com and hopefully we resolve your concerns and
possibly change your mind about carrying the product line.

Best regards,

Mitch Garvis
--
MDG, MCSA


"Jim Prendergast" wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have been checking up.
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp
> States that the course and exam are in line.
>
> There is nothing in the stated course about SQl and Excahnged migrations.
> yet in the exam there were questions, Lookin the newsgroup lots are
> complaining about this.
>
> The Exam has moved away from the stated objectives..
>
> IE Course and Exam should be on same subject.
>
> I have just wasted time, I could have been taking the exchange or active
> directory exams. There stated objective are clear.
>
> Microsoft wrote the course, maybe they should keep them together. Otherwise
> people will want there money back???
>
>
>
> "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
>
> > Hi Jim.
> >
> > I had not seen your initial complaint, but let me answer it here. Microsoft
> > changed the exam because there were too many complaints that the original was
> > too easy. I don't remember the exact number but the pass rate was in the
> > stratosphere.
> >
> > Having said that they did not change the subject material. The courseware
> > is the same and the material being tested is the same. None of that has been
> > changed.
> >
> > It is not that 70-282 has nothing to do with SBS, that is not true. It is
> > just not excusively on SBS and it never was. It is titled Planning,
> > Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for the Small and Medium-Sized
> > Business. Is SBS a big part of that? Yes. Is it the only aspect of it? Not
> > at all.
> >
> > As for stopping partners from needing this exam for SBS validation that is
> > firstly to my knowledge not true. The requirements for joining the Small
> > Business Specialist Community (SBSC) have not changed. It is also known as
> > an equalizer for smaller companies who would not qualify for GOLD Partner
> > status. It is the one domain where Registered Partners and God Certified
> > Partners are treated equally.
> >
> > Good luck to you!
> >
> > Mitch
> > --
> > MDG, MCSA
> >
> >
> > "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
> >
> > > I posted a complaint about the change in this Exam, it was remove3d from
> > > the newsgroup.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why
> > > Is microsoft unwilling to have complaints aired???
> > >
> > > The complaint was:
> > > How can you change a EXAM, without first
> > > 1/ Suppling courseware
> > > 2/ Changing the course (which is sold to us at a cost)
> > > 3/ Informing GOLD partners that the EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SBS.
> > > 4/ Stopping Partners from needing this Exam for SBS valididation.
> > >
> > > This is a valid complaint
> > >
> > >
> > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> > >
> > > > HI CSCAdmin,
> > > >
> > > > You can e-mail me at newsgroups at mitchgarvis dot com. You have me
> > > > intrigued
> > > >
> > > > Mitch
> > > > --
> > > > MDG, MCSA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "CSCADMIN" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Montreal MCSA,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to contact you offline via email.
> > > > >
> > > > > How may I proceed with emailing you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank You.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HI Aman,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I took the test a few months ago and honestly it was so easy that I
> > > > > > complained to Microsoft that they were making meaningless the letters MCP.
> > > > > > However if I am not mistaken there were 50 questions and 170 minutes.
> > > > > > Without studying and with a fever I finished in 65 minutes and scored an 897.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck and let us know how it goes!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitch
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > MDG, MCSA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Aman Tech" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could any one please tell me how many questions, does the 70-282 Exam has?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also how many minutes long is the test.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aman

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Exam 70-282: Designing, Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for a
Small- and Medium-Sized Business

Not even in the title is SBS mentioned, as I've stated before this exam is
applying knowledge to designing the right solution for the right candidate
[business]. Its not nor has it ever really been an "SBS" exam. Even the
competency add for Partners is SBC [Small Business Community] which may have
some focus to SBS but doesn't mean its SBS alone. As far as the questions
you mentioned about other Microsoft Products, they were not first of all
that difficult nor were they secondly out of the knowledge set fro someone
consulting networking and infrastructure solutions for small and or
mid-sized businesses.

As for your comments about taking an Exchange or an Active Directory exam
instead...even if this was a totally SBS exam what technologies do you think
are included with it? AD and Exchange would be two of those technologies;
I'm sorry you've had a rough time of it, but your complaint seems to have no
foundation.

--
..rev - mct.mcngp.44
..
"It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought without
accepting it"
~Aristotle.
..
"Jim Prendergast" <> wrote in
message news:14FAC4AC-C239-46F3-AA67-...
| Hi
|
| I have been checking up.
| http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp
| States that the course and exam are in line.
|
| There is nothing in the stated course about SQl and Excahnged migrations.
| yet in the exam there were questions, Lookin the newsgroup lots are
| complaining about this.
|
| The Exam has moved away from the stated objectives..
|
| IE Course and Exam should be on same subject.
|
| I have just wasted time, I could have been taking the exchange or active
| directory exams. There stated objective are clear.
|
| Microsoft wrote the course, maybe they should keep them together.
Otherwise
| people will want there money back???
|
|
|
| "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jim.
| >
| > I had not seen your initial complaint, but let me answer it here.
Microsoft
| > changed the exam because there were too many complaints that the
original was
| > too easy. I don't remember the exact number but the pass rate was in
the
| > stratosphere.
| >
| > Having said that they did not change the subject material. The
courseware
| > is the same and the material being tested is the same. None of that has
been
| > changed.
| >
| > It is not that 70-282 has nothing to do with SBS, that is not true. It
is
| > just not excusively on SBS and it never was. It is titled Planning,
| > Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for the Small and
Medium-Sized
| > Business. Is SBS a big part of that? Yes. Is it the only aspect of it?
Not
| > at all.
| >
| > As for stopping partners from needing this exam for SBS validation that
is
| > firstly to my knowledge not true. The requirements for joining the
Small
| > Business Specialist Community (SBSC) have not changed. It is also known
as
| > an equalizer for smaller companies who would not qualify for GOLD
Partner
| > status. It is the one domain where Registered Partners and God
Certified
| > Partners are treated equally.
| >
| > Good luck to you!
| >
| > Mitch
| > --
| > MDG, MCSA
| >
| >
| > "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
| >
| > > I posted a complaint about the change in this Exam, it was remove3d
from
| > > the newsgroup.
| > >
| > >
| > > Why
| > > Is microsoft unwilling to have complaints aired???
| > >
| > > The complaint was:
| > > How can you change a EXAM, without first
| > > 1/ Suppling courseware
| > > 2/ Changing the course (which is sold to us at a cost)
| > > 3/ Informing GOLD partners that the EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SBS.
| > > 4/ Stopping Partners from needing this Exam for SBS valididation.
| > >
| > > This is a valid complaint
| > >
| > >
| > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
| > >
| > > > HI CSCAdmin,
| > > >
| > > > You can e-mail me at newsgroups at mitchgarvis dot com. You have me
| > > > intrigued
| > > >
| > > > Mitch
| > > > --
| > > > MDG, MCSA
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > "CSCADMIN" wrote:
| > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > Montreal MCSA,
| > > > >
| > > > > I would like to contact you offline via email.
| > > > >
| > > > > How may I proceed with emailing you.
| > > > >
| > > > > Please let me know...
| > > > >
| > > > > Thank You.
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
| > > > >
| > > > > > HI Aman,
| > > > > >
| > > > > > I took the test a few months ago and honestly it was so easy
that I
| > > > > > complained to Microsoft that they were making meaningless the
letters MCP.
| > > > > > However if I am not mistaken there were 50 questions and 170
minutes.
| > > > > > Without studying and with a fever I finished in 65 minutes and
scored an 897.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Good luck and let us know how it goes!
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Mitch
| > > > > > --
| > > > > > MDG, MCSA
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > > "Aman Tech" wrote:
| > > > > >
| > > > > > > Friends,
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > Could any one please tell me how many questions, does the
70-282 Exam has?
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > Also how many minutes long is the test.
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > Aman

The Rev [MCT]

I am booked in to take this exam in a couple of weeks time.

I have the course 2395A book having taken the course in November.
I also have The Microsoft SBS2003 Administrators companion.
And Harry Brelsfords primer book

Can you tell me wherabouts it mentions Exchange migration and SQL migration
in this material?
There is also no reference to SQL2005 in the course material.

I have been using Measureup practice tests and also Self Test Software and I
was getting pass results but now it seems I may be sitting an entirely
different test to what I have prepared for.

I have to agree with Jim. If Microsoft are going to re-vamp the test that's
OK but surely they should revamp the course material first and certainly
inform the audience that is is changed.


"Montreal MCSA" <> wrote in message
news:74431512-9323-4B91-ACB5-...
> Hi Jim,
>
> I am sorry that you feel that way, but I am not entirely sure how you
> would
> have me respond to your points in two posts.
>
> If you feel that you have wasted your time by studying material that will
> be
> pertinent to your career if not an exam then it is too bad but I will be
> honest, I have spoken with a lot of people who have written the exam both
> before and after the changes and most of them are satisfied with the
> changes.
>
> Again I will repeat that Gold Certified Partners are not supposed to have
> any advantage whatsoever with the SBSC program. Frankly when I was told
> about the program I was upset because I was not to receive any advantages,
> and when it was explained to me that the big advantages were for small
> businesses rather than Gold Partners I was satisfied. Obviously you are
> not.
>
> I have to ask though... do you work with Small Business Server, or were
> you
> relying solely on studying? As with every Microsoft exam they tell you
> ahead
> of time that you should have real experience before writing the exam. I
> have
> been working with it for quite some time and was therefore comfortable in
> the
> exam without the course and studying. However you are right, they do
> expect
> the SBS answers, so adding users should not be done through ADUC.
>
> Both SQL Server and Exchange Migrations are a part of SBS, but it will
> often
> be the case that they put answers in that do not apply as wrong answers.
> If
> you overthink the answers often you will get caught.
>
> In closing I am sorry that you are considering dropping the SBS line
> because
> you are upset, and would welcome the opportunity to help you off-line to
> resolve your concerns. I know that Microsoft has made extreme progress in
> the past two years to make the product what it is and I honestly believe
> it
> is the right solution for small businesses. If you are unhappy please
> e-mail
> me at mitch at mitchgarvis dot com and hopefully we resolve your concerns
> and
> possibly change your mind about carrying the product line.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mitch Garvis
> --
> MDG, MCSA
>
>
> "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have been checking up.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp
>> States that the course and exam are in line.
>>
>> There is nothing in the stated course about SQl and Excahnged migrations.
>> yet in the exam there were questions, Lookin the newsgroup lots are
>> complaining about this.
>>
>> The Exam has moved away from the stated objectives..
>>
>> IE Course and Exam should be on same subject.
>>
>> I have just wasted time, I could have been taking the exchange or
>> active
>> directory exams. There stated objective are clear.
>>
>> Microsoft wrote the course, maybe they should keep them together.
>> Otherwise
>> people will want there money back???
>>
>>
>>
>> "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Jim.
>> >
>> > I had not seen your initial complaint, but let me answer it here.
>> > Microsoft
>> > changed the exam because there were too many complaints that the
>> > original was
>> > too easy. I don't remember the exact number but the pass rate was in
>> > the
>> > stratosphere.
>> >
>> > Having said that they did not change the subject material. The
>> > courseware
>> > is the same and the material being tested is the same. None of that
>> > has been
>> > changed.
>> >
>> > It is not that 70-282 has nothing to do with SBS, that is not true. It
>> > is
>> > just not excusively on SBS and it never was. It is titled Planning,
>> > Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for the Small and
>> > Medium-Sized
>> > Business. Is SBS a big part of that? Yes. Is it the only aspect of
>> > it? Not
>> > at all.
>> >
>> > As for stopping partners from needing this exam for SBS validation that
>> > is
>> > firstly to my knowledge not true. The requirements for joining the
>> > Small
>> > Business Specialist Community (SBSC) have not changed. It is also
>> > known as
>> > an equalizer for smaller companies who would not qualify for GOLD
>> > Partner
>> > status. It is the one domain where Registered Partners and God
>> > Certified
>> > Partners are treated equally.
>> >
>> > Good luck to you!
>> >
>> > Mitch
>> > --
>> > MDG, MCSA
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I posted a complaint about the change in this Exam, it was
>> > > remove3d from
>> > > the newsgroup.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Why
>> > > Is microsoft unwilling to have complaints aired???
>> > >
>> > > The complaint was:
>> > > How can you change a EXAM, without first
>> > > 1/ Suppling courseware
>> > > 2/ Changing the course (which is sold to us at a cost)
>> > > 3/ Informing GOLD partners that the EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SBS.
>> > > 4/ Stopping Partners from needing this Exam for SBS valididation.
>> > >
>> > > This is a valid complaint
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > HI CSCAdmin,
>> > > >
>> > > > You can e-mail me at newsgroups at mitchgarvis dot com. You have
>> > > > me
>> > > > intrigued
>> > > >
>> > > > Mitch
>> > > > --
>> > > > MDG, MCSA
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "CSCADMIN" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Montreal MCSA,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I would like to contact you offline via email.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > How may I proceed with emailing you.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Please let me know...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank You.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > HI Aman,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I took the test a few months ago and honestly it was so easy
>> > > > > > that I
>> > > > > > complained to Microsoft that they were making meaningless the
>> > > > > > letters MCP.
>> > > > > > However if I am not mistaken there were 50 questions and 170
>> > > > > > minutes.
>> > > > > > Without studying and with a fever I finished in 65 minutes and
>> > > > > > scored an 897.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Good luck and let us know how it goes!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Mitch
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > MDG, MCSA
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "Aman Tech" wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Friends,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Could any one please tell me how many questions, does the
>> > > > > > > 70-282 Exam has?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Also how many minutes long is the test.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Aman

Arthur

> Not even in the title is SBS mentioned, as I've stated before this exam is
> applying knowledge to designing the right solution for the right candidate
> [business].

Interesting, can we expect in the near future Mac or Linux questions in
this exam? As the title does not make this impossible, and we are
talking about right solutions for the right candidates.
I consider the new exam an undocumented change of policy certainly in
regard of http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp Probably
it mainly clarifies the Microsoft way of working, we better like it go
to look elsewhere.

lists@advalvas.be

Mitch,

If can prolly explain the concern over this change in the exam. Would it be
possible for me to contact you about my concerns and the rather large
majority of concerns of the employees I work with centered around this exam?
It just Might actually help out a bit.

"" wrote:

>
> > Not even in the title is SBS mentioned, as I've stated before this exam is
> > applying knowledge to designing the right solution for the right candidate
> > [business].
>
> Interesting, can we expect in the near future Mac or Linux questions in
> this exam? As the title does not make this impossible, and we are
> talking about right solutions for the right candidates.
> I consider the new exam an undocumented change of policy certainly in
> regard of http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp Probably
> it mainly clarifies the Microsoft way of working, we better like it go
> to look elsewhere.
>
>

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Mitch,

If can prolly explain the concern over this change in the exam. Would it be
possible for me to contact you about my concerns and the rather large
majority of concerns of the employees I work with centered around this exam?
It just Might actually help out a bit.

"" wrote:

>
> > Not even in the title is SBS mentioned, as I've stated before this exam is
> > applying knowledge to designing the right solution for the right candidate
> > [business].
>
> Interesting, can we expect in the near future Mac or Linux questions in
> this exam? As the title does not make this impossible, and we are
> talking about right solutions for the right candidates.
> I consider the new exam an undocumented change of policy certainly in
> regard of http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp Probably
> it mainly clarifies the Microsoft way of working, we better like it go
> to look elsewhere.
>
>

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Hi

I think my objection was.

1/ The course.
2/ The mock exam (From MS site)
3/ The guidlines.

DO NOT ASK FOR SQL or EXCHANGE migration info.

I have no problem with a exam when the correct subject is examined.

But to examine on subjects NOT included on the above is wrong.

Yes the 2395A course has modules on windows 2003 migration.

NOT ON SQL or EXCHANGE

Yet the course is still stated by MS as the course for this Exam.

Change the EXAM, change the GUIDELINES and the COURSEWARE

I took my B Sc Pure Maths there was no History questions, funny that.



"The Rev [MCT]" wrote:

> Exam 70-282: Designing, Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for a
> Small- and Medium-Sized Business
>
> Not even in the title is SBS mentioned, as I've stated before this exam is
> applying knowledge to designing the right solution for the right candidate
> [business]. Its not nor has it ever really been an "SBS" exam. Even the
> competency add for Partners is SBC [Small Business Community] which may have
> some focus to SBS but doesn't mean its SBS alone. As far as the questions
> you mentioned about other Microsoft Products, they were not first of all
> that difficult nor were they secondly out of the knowledge set fro someone
> consulting networking and infrastructure solutions for small and or
> mid-sized businesses.
>
> As for your comments about taking an Exchange or an Active Directory exam
> instead...even if this was a totally SBS exam what technologies do you think
> are included with it? AD and Exchange would be two of those technologies;
> I'm sorry you've had a rough time of it, but your complaint seems to have no
> foundation.
>
> --
> ..rev - mct.mcngp.44
> ..
> "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought without
> accepting it"
> ~Aristotle.
> ..
> "Jim Prendergast" <> wrote in
> message news:14FAC4AC-C239-46F3-AA67-...
> | Hi
> |
> | I have been checking up.
> | http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp
> | States that the course and exam are in line.
> |
> | There is nothing in the stated course about SQl and Excahnged migrations.
> | yet in the exam there were questions, Lookin the newsgroup lots are
> | complaining about this.
> |
> | The Exam has moved away from the stated objectives..
> |
> | IE Course and Exam should be on same subject.
> |
> | I have just wasted time, I could have been taking the exchange or active
> | directory exams. There stated objective are clear.
> |
> | Microsoft wrote the course, maybe they should keep them together.
> Otherwise
> | people will want there money back???
> |
> |
> |
> | "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> |
> | > Hi Jim.
> | >
> | > I had not seen your initial complaint, but let me answer it here.
> Microsoft
> | > changed the exam because there were too many complaints that the
> original was
> | > too easy. I don't remember the exact number but the pass rate was in
> the
> | > stratosphere.
> | >
> | > Having said that they did not change the subject material. The
> courseware
> | > is the same and the material being tested is the same. None of that has
> been
> | > changed.
> | >
> | > It is not that 70-282 has nothing to do with SBS, that is not true. It
> is
> | > just not excusively on SBS and it never was. It is titled Planning,
> | > Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for the Small and
> Medium-Sized
> | > Business. Is SBS a big part of that? Yes. Is it the only aspect of it?
> Not
> | > at all.
> | >
> | > As for stopping partners from needing this exam for SBS validation that
> is
> | > firstly to my knowledge not true. The requirements for joining the
> Small
> | > Business Specialist Community (SBSC) have not changed. It is also known
> as
> | > an equalizer for smaller companies who would not qualify for GOLD
> Partner
> | > status. It is the one domain where Registered Partners and God
> Certified
> | > Partners are treated equally.
> | >
> | > Good luck to you!
> | >
> | > Mitch
> | > --
> | > MDG, MCSA
> | >
> | >
> | > "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
> | >
> | > > I posted a complaint about the change in this Exam, it was remove3d
> from
> | > > the newsgroup.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > Why
> | > > Is microsoft unwilling to have complaints aired???
> | > >
> | > > The complaint was:
> | > > How can you change a EXAM, without first
> | > > 1/ Suppling courseware
> | > > 2/ Changing the course (which is sold to us at a cost)
> | > > 3/ Informing GOLD partners that the EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SBS.
> | > > 4/ Stopping Partners from needing this Exam for SBS valididation.
> | > >
> | > > This is a valid complaint
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> | > >
> | > > > HI CSCAdmin,
> | > > >
> | > > > You can e-mail me at newsgroups at mitchgarvis dot com. You have me
> | > > > intrigued
> | > > >
> | > > > Mitch
> | > > > --
> | > > > MDG, MCSA
> | > > >
> | > > >
> | > > > "CSCADMIN" wrote:
> | > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Montreal MCSA,
> | > > > >
> | > > > > I would like to contact you offline via email.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > How may I proceed with emailing you.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Please let me know...
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Thank You.
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> | > > > >
> | > > > > > HI Aman,
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > I took the test a few months ago and honestly it was so easy
> that I
> | > > > > > complained to Microsoft that they were making meaningless the
> letters MCP.
> | > > > > > However if I am not mistaken there were 50 questions and 170
> minutes.
> | > > > > > Without studying and with a fever I finished in 65 minutes and
> scored an 897.
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > Good luck and let us know how it goes!
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > Mitch
> | > > > > > --
> | > > > > > MDG, MCSA
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > "Aman Tech" wrote:
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Friends,
> | > > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Could any one please tell me how many questions, does the
> 70-282 Exam has?
> | > > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Also how many minutes long is the test.
> | > > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Aman
>
>
>

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Hi

I think my objection was.

1/ The course.
2/ The mock exam (From MS site)
3/ The guidlines.

DO NOT ASK FOR SQL or EXCHANGE migration info.

I have no problem with a exam when the correct subject is examined.

But to examine on subjects NOT included on the above is wrong.

Yes the 2395A course has modules on windows 2003 migration.

NOT ON SQL or EXCHANGE

Yet the course is still stated by MS as the course for this Exam.

Change the EXAM, change the GUIDELINES and the COURSEWARE

I took my B Sc Pure Maths there was no History questions, funny that.



"The Rev [MCT]" wrote:

> Exam 70-282: Designing, Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for a
> Small- and Medium-Sized Business
>
> Not even in the title is SBS mentioned, as I've stated before this exam is
> applying knowledge to designing the right solution for the right candidate
> [business]. Its not nor has it ever really been an "SBS" exam. Even the
> competency add for Partners is SBC [Small Business Community] which may have
> some focus to SBS but doesn't mean its SBS alone. As far as the questions
> you mentioned about other Microsoft Products, they were not first of all
> that difficult nor were they secondly out of the knowledge set fro someone
> consulting networking and infrastructure solutions for small and or
> mid-sized businesses.
>
> As for your comments about taking an Exchange or an Active Directory exam
> instead...even if this was a totally SBS exam what technologies do you think
> are included with it? AD and Exchange would be two of those technologies;
> I'm sorry you've had a rough time of it, but your complaint seems to have no
> foundation.
>
> --
> ..rev - mct.mcngp.44
> ..
> "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought without
> accepting it"
> ~Aristotle.
> ..
> "Jim Prendergast" <> wrote in
> message news:14FAC4AC-C239-46F3-AA67-...
> | Hi
> |
> | I have been checking up.
> | http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-282.asp
> | States that the course and exam are in line.
> |
> | There is nothing in the stated course about SQl and Excahnged migrations.
> | yet in the exam there were questions, Lookin the newsgroup lots are
> | complaining about this.
> |
> | The Exam has moved away from the stated objectives..
> |
> | IE Course and Exam should be on same subject.
> |
> | I have just wasted time, I could have been taking the exchange or active
> | directory exams. There stated objective are clear.
> |
> | Microsoft wrote the course, maybe they should keep them together.
> Otherwise
> | people will want there money back???
> |
> |
> |
> | "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> |
> | > Hi Jim.
> | >
> | > I had not seen your initial complaint, but let me answer it here.
> Microsoft
> | > changed the exam because there were too many complaints that the
> original was
> | > too easy. I don't remember the exact number but the pass rate was in
> the
> | > stratosphere.
> | >
> | > Having said that they did not change the subject material. The
> courseware
> | > is the same and the material being tested is the same. None of that has
> been
> | > changed.
> | >
> | > It is not that 70-282 has nothing to do with SBS, that is not true. It
> is
> | > just not excusively on SBS and it never was. It is titled Planning,
> | > Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for the Small and
> Medium-Sized
> | > Business. Is SBS a big part of that? Yes. Is it the only aspect of it?
> Not
> | > at all.
> | >
> | > As for stopping partners from needing this exam for SBS validation that
> is
> | > firstly to my knowledge not true. The requirements for joining the
> Small
> | > Business Specialist Community (SBSC) have not changed. It is also known
> as
> | > an equalizer for smaller companies who would not qualify for GOLD
> Partner
> | > status. It is the one domain where Registered Partners and God
> Certified
> | > Partners are treated equally.
> | >
> | > Good luck to you!
> | >
> | > Mitch
> | > --
> | > MDG, MCSA
> | >
> | >
> | > "Jim Prendergast" wrote:
> | >
> | > > I posted a complaint about the change in this Exam, it was remove3d
> from
> | > > the newsgroup.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > Why
> | > > Is microsoft unwilling to have complaints aired???
> | > >
> | > > The complaint was:
> | > > How can you change a EXAM, without first
> | > > 1/ Suppling courseware
> | > > 2/ Changing the course (which is sold to us at a cost)
> | > > 3/ Informing GOLD partners that the EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SBS.
> | > > 4/ Stopping Partners from needing this Exam for SBS valididation.
> | > >
> | > > This is a valid complaint
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> | > >
> | > > > HI CSCAdmin,
> | > > >
> | > > > You can e-mail me at newsgroups at mitchgarvis dot com. You have me
> | > > > intrigued
> | > > >
> | > > > Mitch
> | > > > --
> | > > > MDG, MCSA
> | > > >
> | > > >
> | > > > "CSCADMIN" wrote:
> | > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Montreal MCSA,
> | > > > >
> | > > > > I would like to contact you offline via email.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > How may I proceed with emailing you.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Please let me know...
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Thank You.
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > > "Montreal MCSA" wrote:
> | > > > >
> | > > > > > HI Aman,
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > I took the test a few months ago and honestly it was so easy
> that I
> | > > > > > complained to Microsoft that they were making meaningless the
> letters MCP.
> | > > > > > However if I am not mistaken there were 50 questions and 170
> minutes.
> | > > > > > Without studying and with a fever I finished in 65 minutes and
> scored an 897.
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > Good luck and let us know how it goes!
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > Mitch
> | > > > > > --
> | > > > > > MDG, MCSA
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > "Aman Tech" wrote:
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Friends,
> | > > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Could any one please tell me how many questions, does the
> 70-282 Exam has?
> | > > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Also how many minutes long is the test.
> | > > > > > >
> | > > > > > > Aman
>
>
>

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