Mappoint GPS locator and missing roads

My company is in the process of setting up a GPS vehicle tracking system
which uses Microsoft Mappoint to display the location of our trucks. The
issue we are dealing with before we spend $100,000+ on hardware for each
truck is that Mappoint 2004 is missing a number of roads and subdivisions in
our city and surrounding area.
My question is, what happens when a GPS transponder goes onto one of these
streets that is not in Mappoint 2004? Does Mappoint indicate that the truck
is in an on the map in a location where the road should be?
Is there a way to edit the maps and/or add roads to it?

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Mike L wrote:
> My company is in the process of setting up a GPS vehicle tracking
> system which uses Microsoft Mappoint to display the location of our
> trucks. The issue we are dealing with before we spend $100,000+ on
> hardware for each truck is that Mappoint 2004 is missing a number of
> roads and subdivisions in our city and surrounding area.
> My question is, what happens when a GPS transponder goes onto one of
> these streets that is not in Mappoint 2004? Does Mappoint indicate
> that the truck is in an on the map in a location where the road
> should be?
> Is there a way to edit the maps and/or add roads to it?


I would ask the company you're buying the GPS system from. If you're
spending that much money they should be able to answer your questions.
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Already asked them. They have never come across this problem. Their setup is
mainly used in transport trucks, running major highways that are present in
Mappoint. We are in the Construction industry, and would be either building
these newer roads, or working on buildings that are on newer roads. (newer
then 4 years old)

"CBIC" wrote:

> Mike L wrote:
> > My company is in the process of setting up a GPS vehicle tracking
> > system which uses Microsoft Mappoint to display the location of our
> > trucks. The issue we are dealing with before we spend $100,000+ on
> > hardware for each truck is that Mappoint 2004 is missing a number of
> > roads and subdivisions in our city and surrounding area.
> > My question is, what happens when a GPS transponder goes onto one of
> > these streets that is not in Mappoint 2004? Does Mappoint indicate
> > that the truck is in an on the map in a location where the road
> > should be?
> > Is there a way to edit the maps and/or add roads to it?
>
>
> I would ask the company you're buying the GPS system from. If you're
> spending that much money they should be able to answer your questions.
> --
> aka
> Doom MCNGP #38
> How in the hell did you get access to a computer?
> www.mcngp.com invented the internet
>
>
>

Mike L wrote:
> Already asked them. They have never come across this problem. Their
> setup is mainly used in transport trucks, running major highways that
> are present in Mappoint. We are in the Construction industry, and
> would be either building these newer roads, or working on buildings
> that are on newer roads. (newer then 4 years old)

I figured you had but had to throw it out there. It seems odd that they
couldn't/wouldn't find this out for you. Have you talked to different GPS
outfits?
--
aka
Doom MCNGP #38
How in the hell did you get access to a computer?
www.mcngp.com invented the internet

I am currently in the works of having them send a test unit to see what will
happen in different situations. (ie. concrete truck goes under ground at a
mining site, goes on a missing road in mappoint, etc)
I still would like to see if anyone has had any experience with this issue
as I know that the missing road issue is a common issue.

"CBIC" wrote:

> Mike L wrote:
> > Already asked them. They have never come across this problem. Their
> > setup is mainly used in transport trucks, running major highways that
> > are present in Mappoint. We are in the Construction industry, and
> > would be either building these newer roads, or working on buildings
> > that are on newer roads. (newer then 4 years old)
>
> I figured you had but had to throw it out there. It seems odd that they
> couldn't/wouldn't find this out for you. Have you talked to different GPS
> outfits?
> --
> aka
> Doom MCNGP #38
> How in the hell did you get access to a computer?
> www.mcngp.com invented the internet
>
>
>

First.. $100,000 per truck is damned ridiculous.
Whatever purchasing agent approved that is an idiot.
Whatever outfit is trying to sell that to you is
screwing you. Seriously, a tractor trailer or a concrete
truck doesn't even cost that much!
If they want to sell that to you, then make them do the
research and prove it to you!!

As for a concrete truck (or any vehicle) going
underground, there will be no signal until it gets on the
other side. Thus, you can't track it. Even with WAAS
(ground based GPS), you won't get a signal underground.

As for the roads, you would have to get the US Geological
Survey to update their maps. It is possible to pay
companies to update the maps and provide the updates to
the USGS. They use survey equipment, airplanes with
cameras and lasers, etc. Your state mapping office or
the project engineers may be able to provide more
information.
Or, you can find an USGS volunteer to help.
http://geography.usgs.gov/misc/evolution.html
http://interactive.usgs.gov/volunteer/earthsciencecorps


>-----Original Message-----
>I am currently in the works of having them send a test
unit to see what will
>happen in different situations. (ie. concrete truck goes
under ground at a
>mining site, goes on a missing road in mappoint, etc)
>I still would like to see if anyone has had any
experience with this issue
>as I know that the missing road issue is a common issue.
>
>"CBIC" wrote:
>
>> Mike L wrote:
>> > Already asked them. They have never come across this
problem. Their
>> > setup is mainly used in transport trucks, running
major highways that
>> > are present in Mappoint. We are in the Construction
industry, and
>> > would be either building these newer roads, or
working on buildings
>> > that are on newer roads. (newer then 4 years old)
>>
>> I figured you had but had to throw it out there. It
seems odd that they
>> couldn't/wouldn't find this out for you. Have you
talked to different GPS
>> outfits?
>> --
>> aka
>> Doom MCNGP #38
>> How in the hell did you get access to a computer?
>> www.mcngp.com invented the internet
>>
>>
>>
>.
>

Maybe I missed worded my posting. It was $100,000+ to equip all our trucks
(concrete, transports etc)

"" wrote:

> First.. $100,000 per truck is damned ridiculous.
> Whatever purchasing agent approved that is an idiot.
> Whatever outfit is trying to sell that to you is
> screwing you. Seriously, a tractor trailer or a concrete
> truck doesn't even cost that much!
> If they want to sell that to you, then make them do the
> research and prove it to you!!
>
> As for a concrete truck (or any vehicle) going
> underground, there will be no signal until it gets on the
> other side. Thus, you can't track it. Even with WAAS
> (ground based GPS), you won't get a signal underground.
>
> As for the roads, you would have to get the US Geological
> Survey to update their maps. It is possible to pay
> companies to update the maps and provide the updates to
> the USGS. They use survey equipment, airplanes with
> cameras and lasers, etc. Your state mapping office or
> the project engineers may be able to provide more
> information.
> Or, you can find an USGS volunteer to help.
> http://geography.usgs.gov/misc/evolution.html
> http://interactive.usgs.gov/volunteer/earthsciencecorps
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am currently in the works of having them send a test
> unit to see what will
> >happen in different situations. (ie. concrete truck goes
> under ground at a
> >mining site, goes on a missing road in mappoint, etc)
> >I still would like to see if anyone has had any
> experience with this issue
> >as I know that the missing road issue is a common issue.
> >
> >"CBIC" wrote:
> >
> >> Mike L wrote:
> >> > Already asked them. They have never come across this
> problem. Their
> >> > setup is mainly used in transport trucks, running
> major highways that
> >> > are present in Mappoint. We are in the Construction
> industry, and
> >> > would be either building these newer roads, or
> working on buildings
> >> > that are on newer roads. (newer then 4 years old)
> >>
> >> I figured you had but had to throw it out there. It
> seems odd that they
> >> couldn't/wouldn't find this out for you. Have you
> talked to different GPS
> >> outfits?
> >> --
> >> aka
> >> Doom MCNGP #38
> >> How in the hell did you get access to a computer?
> >> www.mcngp.com invented the internet
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >.
> >
>