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Old 04-24-2004, 07:15 AM   #1
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Please help me load lindows onto a clean hard drive i keep
getting no ntldr and ifso please tell me what are some
easy floppy or disc formating utilities prior to loading
lindows or linux....Please help for what its worth all my
other machine are dedicated windows builds.. thanx

Darin RAy


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Old 04-24-2004, 09:48 PM   #2
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darinsray wrote:
> *Please help me load lindows onto a clean hard drive i keep
> getting no ntldr and ifso please tell me what are some
> easy floppy or disc formating utilities prior to loading
> lindows or linux....Please help for what its worth all my
> other machine are dedicated windows builds.. thanx
>
> Darin RAy *


Whoa I think that you need to do a little reading. ntldr not found i
a message that you get if the disk was formatted with an NT based OS
NT, 2K, XP. You will get it even if you have a floppy in the driv
that was formatted by an NT based OS. Normally depending on th
distribution you just boot the CD.

If your system is not set up for a CD boot then you will need to g
into the CMOS set up to configure it. If your system is so old that i
can not handle a boot from CD then you will need a boot floppy.

Linux uses a different file system and multiple partitions and it
install routines should handle it for you. There are distribution
that can co-exist using container logic. That may be your Installabl
File System Option (IFSO) but who knows with the info that yo
provided.

How you proceed next really depends on the specific details of what yo
are trying to do. You could just down load a Knoppix ISO which is
Linux distribution that runs from the CD to see if you even grok Linux

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Old 04-27-2004, 08:46 PM   #3
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>-----Original Message-----
>
>darinsray wrote:
>> *Please help me load lindows onto a clean hard drive i

keep
>> getting no ntldr and ifso please tell me what are some
>> easy floppy or disc formating utilities prior to

loading
>> lindows or linux....Please help for what its worth all

my
>> other machine are dedicated windows builds.. thanx
>>
>> Darin RAy *

>
>Whoa I think that you need to do a little reading.

ntldr not found is
>a message that you get if the disk was formatted with an

NT based OS,
>NT, 2K, XP. You will get it even if you have a floppy

in the drive
>that was formatted by an NT based OS. Normally

depending on the
>distribution you just boot the CD.
>
>If your system is not set up for a CD boot then you will

need to go
>into the CMOS set up to configure it. If your system is

so old that it
>can not handle a boot from CD then you will need a boot

floppy.
<snip>
if it is so old that it can't handle a boot from CD then
it's probably too old to run W2K or higher! Ya gotta have
some horsepower(read processor, ram) in order for it to
work. and also a hd big enough to hold the os and your
data (20 GB, minimum)


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Old 04-28-2004, 07:50 AM   #4
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> *
> <snip>
> if it is so old that it can't handle a boot from CD then
> it's probably too old to run W2K or higher! Ya gotta have
> some horsepower(read processor, ram) in order for it to
> work. and also a hd big enough to hold the os and your
> data (20 GB, minimum) *


Hmmm did you read the original or are you not a Linux person? Ther
are plenty of PII's around that won't boot from CD and run win2k or XP
Through most laptops of that era into that group also. It really ha
to do with the BIOS and not the hardware. MB makers could buy the BIO
with or without the code saving a few pennies per system. Marketin
force from MS eventually made them all fall in line by PIII time.

One should also note that regardless of what you or I think o
potential performance, the requirements for 2K and XP are quite fruga
by todays standards. Secondly the boot device had to be formatted by a
NT based OS to get that message unless they used partition magic

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