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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:25:23 -0500, Jeff Rife <> Gave
us:

>Allan ( ) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
>> http://www.video-games-survey.com/consoles.htm
>>
>> Well...121 million units at the end of 2003..
>
>Basically 100M worldwide for any single format, give or take.

That's what B. Gates said about the Xbox 360. He was sadly wrong, as
they can't even get near that many in the stores. A day late, and
$100 too much... as usual.

>> How many DVD players
>> were sold at that point?
>
>Probably well over 500 million worldwide:
>
> http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...advdsales.html

Likely more than that.

They probably don't/didn't count PC DVD "data drives"

"Allan" < > wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:51:56 -0800, "Alpha" <> wrote:
>
>
>>
>><EFG> LOL I told everyone that this would be the result!
>
> No... actually you said:
>
> "Please shut up....you know nothing about it at all. From a
> scientific standpoint it is very difficult. Non trivial. Expensive."
>
> Which is complete Bull.
>
> You also said that all "HD" machines would NEED a internet connection
> to work.... which is also wrong.

Wrong again.

"Joshua Zyber" <> wrote in message
news:511yf.7999$% ink.net...
> "Allan" < > wrote in
> message news:...
>>><EFG> LOL I told everyone that this would be the result!
>>
>> No... actually you said:
>>
>> "Please shut up....you know nothing about it at all. From a
>> scientific standpoint it is very difficult. Non trivial. Expensive."
>>
>> Which is complete Bull.
>
> Which is still precisely correct. From a technical standpoint, building an
> HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player would be no problem at all. All of the issues
> preventing one from happening are purely legal in nature.
>

Wrong. It is hardly 'no problem at all.' Have any of you studied physics?

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:43:21 -0800, "Alpha" <> wrote:

>>>><EFG> LOL I told everyone that this would be the result!
>>>
>>> No... actually you said:
>>>
>>> "Please shut up....you know nothing about it at all. From a
>>> scientific standpoint it is very difficult. Non trivial. Expensive."
>>>
>>> Which is complete Bull.
>>
>> Which is still precisely correct. From a technical standpoint, building an
>> HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player would be no problem at all. All of the issues
>> preventing one from happening are purely legal in nature.
>>
>
>Wrong. It is hardly 'no problem at all.' Have any of you studied physics?

Just by saying it is difficult... does not make it so.

Please point us in the direction to any where on the internet (other
than you) saying: "From a scientific standpoint it is very difficult.
Non trivial. Expensive."

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7205.cfm

"Japanese executives in general are very political, so this was very
surprising," Kovsky said. "Technically, it is possible...but at this
point, it doesn't look like it will happen, which is a shame, because
it will hinder adoption." Of course the rules that govern all of these
companies just makes the battle more bitter for consumers. "The
conundrum is that you've got two different camps. You've got licensing
issues, you've got trademarks, you've got copyrights," Weedfald said.
"You can't just be on the Blu-ray side and say, 'We will put HD DVD in
there,' and the reverse is true."

It will be a while before we see one on the market, but it is far from
Impossible.


"Politics is far more complicated than physics." Albert Einstein.









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because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:42:38 -0800, "Alpha" <> wrote:

>>><EFG> LOL I told everyone that this would be the result!

>> You also said that all "HD" machines would NEED a internet connection
>> to work.... which is also wrong.
>
>Wrong again.
>

Exactly... you were wrong once again. Glad we agree.






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because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:25:23 -0500, Jeff Rife <> wrote:

>Allan ( ) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
>> http://www.video-games-survey.com/consoles.htm
>>
>> Well...121 million units at the end of 2003..
>
>Basically 100M worldwide for any single format, give or take.
>
>> How many DVD players
>> were sold at that point?
>
>Probably well over 500 million worldwide:
>
> http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...advdsales.html

Hmm... at the end of 2003 there were approx 66 million sold in the US.
(Biggest Market for DVD's I wonder). So it may be similar to total
Video Game market at the end of 2003... around 399 million.

Even with DVD there were limits to software. With Region Coding
stopping you from picking up 'software' while on a trip to the Uk for
example.

Damn... just can't seem to find world wide sales numbers.






"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

Allan ( ) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
> Damn... just can't seem to find world wide sales numbers.

Personally, I think those CEMA numbers are suspect, too, because if only
60M or so players were sold in the US by 2003, that means that some DVDs
were sold in such volume that 1 in 6 DVD players had a copy. Taking into
account households with multiple players, this would make some DVDs have
close to 1 in 3 household penetration...those are like Super Bowl ratings.

Even worse, some TV series sets would be in nearly 1 of 8 homes with DVD
players. Again, using a ratings equivalent, that's around the same number
of people that watch a show like "NCIS" each week, but instead of getting
it for free (like network TV), they paid a decent chunk of change for it.

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| high road.... It's just three hours out of my
| life, and, oh yes, I'm drinking straight vodka."
| -- Caroline Duffy, "Caroline In The City"

"Alpha" <> wrote in message
news:...
>> Which is still precisely correct. From a technical standpoint,
>> building an HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player would be no problem at all. All of
>> the issues preventing one from happening are purely legal in nature.
>
> Wrong. It is hardly 'no problem at all.' Have any of you studied
> physics?

You're not still on that kick, are you? I mean, it's one thing to be
wrong and graciously admit it when pointed out to you, but it's another
to be stubbornly ignorant.

Have you studied physics? Because you exhibit no knowledge of it
whatsoever.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:08:16 GMT, "Joshua Zyber"
<> wrote:

>but it's another
>to be stubbornly ignorant.

Count on 'Alpha' to "be stubbornly ignorant."

Not so big on admitting when he was 100% wrong. Expect 'Alpha' to
completely ignore what he has said in the past.... especially when it
has been proven wrong.






"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

"Allan" < > wrote in message
news...
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:08:16 GMT, "Joshua Zyber"
> <> wrote:
>
>>but it's another
>>to be stubbornly ignorant.
>
> Count on 'Alpha' to "be stubbornly ignorant."
>
> Not so big on admitting when he was 100% wrong. Expect 'Alpha' to
> completely ignore what he has said in the past.... especially when it
> has been proven wrong.


I will argue no further. I was and am not wrong on this. The problems they
ran into are being covered up by political issues. That is all.

There never was even the slightest indication of the merest prototype. Just
hype from Samsung.

As for Zyber, kiss my doctorate.