OT: Godfather IV?

Did anybody have the nerve to try a Godfather IV?

Godfather was so good that I ran out and bought Godfather II - and was amazed at
how good it was considering it was a "son of...".

So, feeling lucky, I sprang for Godfather III.

Sheesh.... maybe it's just me, but that was *bad*.... can't even see how Pachino
and Keaton could keep straight faces thru the whole thing. Did Coppola really
need the money that badly?

So, out of morbid curiosity... is there a Godfather IV? If so, is it as bad as
III?
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PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell)

In article <>, lid
says...
> Did anybody have the nerve to try a Godfather IV?
>
> Godfather was so good that I ran out and bought Godfather II - and was amazed at
> how good it was considering it was a "son of...".
>
> So, feeling lucky, I sprang for Godfather III.
>
> Sheesh.... maybe it's just me, but that was *bad*.... can't even see how Pachino
> and Keaton could keep straight faces thru the whole thing. Did Coppola really
> need the money that badly?
>
> So, out of morbid curiosity... is there a Godfather IV? If so, is it as bad as
> III?
>

You're seriously asking what would have taken you a microsecond to find
using any search engine?

In the time it took you to type that up you could have been told several
million times "no" it's not being made.

--

"Cocaine's a hell of a drug" - Rick James

Fish! - of Arcadia.

"Fish! - of Arcadia." <> wrote in message
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> In the time it took you to type that up you could have been told
> several
> million times "no" it's not being made.

I wouldn't be so quick to presume. Random House did recently commission
and publish a "Godfather Returns" sequel novel by Mark Winegardner:

http://tinyurl.com/8hjg7

And, even more despicably, there is also a new Godfather video game:

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/665/665843.html

Is a 4th movie really so unlikely?

Joshua Zyber

In article <Ne0vf.2392$ et>,
says...
> "Fish! - of Arcadia." <> wrote in message
> news: t...
> > In the time it took you to type that up you could have been told
> > several
> > million times "no" it's not being made.
>
> I wouldn't be so quick to presume. Random House did recently commission
> and publish a "Godfather Returns" sequel novel by Mark Winegardner:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8hjg7
>
> And, even more despicably, there is also a new Godfather video game:
>
> http://ps2.ign.com/objects/665/665843.html
>
> Is a 4th movie really so unlikely?
>
>
>

Of course it ****ing is. FFC got bagged to death for making the 3rd
one, and what the hell would it be about anyway?


--

"Cocaine's a hell of a drug" - Rick James

Fish! - of Arcadia.

Fish! - of Arcadia. () wrote in alt.video.dvd:
> In article <Ne0vf.2392$ et>,
> says...
> > Is a 4th movie really so unlikely?
>
> FFC got bagged to death for making the 3rd
> one

Since he likely doesn't own the movie rights to the books (he was just the
director/screenwriter), and almost certainly doesn't own the movie rights
to the non-Puzo sequel, there's no need to have him involved in a 4th movie.

Recent movie making history is filled with this sort of thing, especially
when the original creative people feel a sequel is a bad idea, and since
III was a bad idea, IV would be a pretty stinko one. And, just because an
idea stinks doesn't mean a movie won't get made...do I have to make a list,
or are most of them obvious enough?

--
Jeff Rife | "When I first heard that Marge was joining the
| police academy, I thought it would be fun and
| zany, like that movie: Spaceballs. But instead
| it was dark and disturbing, like that movie:
| Police Academy."
| -- Homer Simpson

Jeff Rife

Per Fish! - of Arcadia.:
>FFC got bagged to death for making the 3rd

I take considerable comfort in that.
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PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell)

"Fish! - of Arcadia." <> wrote in message
news: t...
>> I wouldn't be so quick to presume. Random House did recently
>> commission
>> and publish a "Godfather Returns" sequel novel by Mark Winegardner:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/8hjg7
>>
>> And, even more despicably, there is also a new Godfather video game:
>>
>> http://ps2.ign.com/objects/665/665843.html
>>
>> Is a 4th movie really so unlikely?
>
> Of course it ****ing is. FFC got bagged to death for making the 3rd
> one,

Who says he has to be involved? Mario Puzo is dead and yet there's a 4th
Godfather novel. Coppola doesn't own the rights to the franchise,
Paramount does. They can do with it what they want, and if they think
making a 4th movie could earn them a nickel there's nothing stopping
them from doing it.

> and what the hell would it be about anyway?

It would be based on the "Godfather Returns" novel, presumably.

I'm certainly not saying this is a good idea. I'd be pretty mortified by
it. But to say it's never going to happen is just plain ignorant of the
realities of the movie business.

Joshua Zyber

"Joshua Zyber" <> wrote in message
news:7vivf.5349$M% ink.net...
> "Fish! - of Arcadia." <> wrote in message
> news: t...
>>> I wouldn't be so quick to presume. Random House did recently commission
>>> and publish a "Godfather Returns" sequel novel by Mark Winegardner:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/8hjg7
>>>
>>> And, even more despicably, there is also a new Godfather video game:
>>>
>>> http://ps2.ign.com/objects/665/665843.html
>>>
>>> Is a 4th movie really so unlikely?
>>
>> Of course it ****ing is. FFC got bagged to death for making the 3rd
>> one,
>
> Who says he has to be involved? Mario Puzo is dead and yet there's a 4th
> Godfather novel. Coppola doesn't own the rights to the franchise,
> Paramount does. They can do with it what they want, and if they think
> making a 4th movie could earn them a nickel there's nothing stopping them
> from doing it.
>
>> and what the hell would it be about anyway?
>
> It would be based on the "Godfather Returns" novel, presumably.
>
> I'm certainly not saying this is a good idea. I'd be pretty mortified by
> it. But to say it's never going to happen is just plain ignorant of the
> realities of the movie business.



FWIW, a few years ago they were seriously thinking of making a 4th GF film
that would take place after the Pt.II DeNiro stuff and before the Pt. I
Brando stuff. DeCaprio was being touted as a young Sonny. I am SO GLAD this
was never realized.

If they're going to do it--and I don't think they should--but, if they're
going to do it, don't make the GF Returns bk. w/ all new actors that we'd be
distractedly and disparagingly comparing to the originals, but make a
continuation of Pt. III and let somebody like Soderbergh, Tarantino,
Rodriguez, etc. go wiggy with it.


....Curtin/Dobbs
>
>

Curtin/Dobbs

"Curtin/Dobbs" <curtin-> wrote in message
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>
> "Joshua Zyber" <> wrote in message
> news:7vivf.5349$M% ink.net...
> > "Fish! - of Arcadia." <> wrote in message
> > news: t...
> >>> I wouldn't be so quick to presume. Random House did recently
commission
> >>> and publish a "Godfather Returns" sequel novel by Mark Winegardner:
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/8hjg7
> >>>
> >>> And, even more despicably, there is also a new Godfather video game:
> >>>
> >>> http://ps2.ign.com/objects/665/665843.html
> >>>
> >>> Is a 4th movie really so unlikely?
> >>
> >> Of course it ****ing is. FFC got bagged to death for making the 3rd
> >> one,
> >
> > Who says he has to be involved? Mario Puzo is dead and yet there's a 4th
> > Godfather novel. Coppola doesn't own the rights to the franchise,
> > Paramount does. They can do with it what they want, and if they think
> > making a 4th movie could earn them a nickel there's nothing stopping
them
> > from doing it.
> >
> >> and what the hell would it be about anyway?
> >
> > It would be based on the "Godfather Returns" novel, presumably.
> >
> > I'm certainly not saying this is a good idea. I'd be pretty mortified by
> > it. But to say it's never going to happen is just plain ignorant of the
> > realities of the movie business.
>
>
>
> FWIW, a few years ago they were seriously thinking of making a 4th GF film
> that would take place after the Pt.II DeNiro stuff and before the Pt. I
> Brando stuff. DeCaprio was being touted as a young Sonny. I am SO GLAD
this
> was never realized.
>
> If they're going to do it--and I don't think they should--but, if they're
> going to do it, don't make the GF Returns bk. w/ all new actors that we'd
be
> distractedly and disparagingly comparing to the originals, but make a
> continuation of Pt. III and let somebody like Soderbergh, Tarantino,
> Rodriguez, etc. go wiggy with it.
>
>
> ...Curtin/Dobbs


Wow. Using _The Godfather Part III_ as a springboard for a further
continuation of The Godfather saga would be stretching the limits of the
original novel. At least in Part II, the young Vito scenes (brilliantly
played by Robert De Niro) came right out of the book.

They certainly squeezed a lot of extra mileage out of Connie Corleone by
adding non-existent dimensions to her character in order justify her parts
in episodes II and III of the Godfather series. However, In chapter 32 of
his book_The Godfather_, author Mario Puzo wrote the following epilogue:

"Time helped heal the old wounds. Connie Corleone was reconciled to her
brother Michael. Indeed not more than a week after her terrible accusations
she apologized to Michael for what she had said and assured Kay that there
had been no truth in her words, that it had been only a young widow's
hysteria."

"Connie Corleone easily found a new husband; in fact, she did not wait
the year of respect before filling her bed again with a fine young fellow
who had come to work for the Corleone Family as a male secretary. A boy from
a reliable Italian family but graduated from the top business college in
America. Naturally his marriage to the sister of the Don made his future
assured."

So, they trot Connie out in Part II as a drunken slut and then in Part III
she becomes a bitter old bitch bent on endless vendettas. "Kill the
bastards!"

Godfather III would have been dramatically improved if Sophia Coppola's swan
song in the final climatic Opera House scene had occurred at the beginning
of the movie. Then the cast members could have just talked about her and
shown family pictures of her. "Remember when Mary did this and when Mary did
that?"

It's difficult to suffer through Miss Coppola's pathetic performance without
laughing. In Godfather III, this wannabe starlet is surrounded by talented
actors. It's embarrassing to watch some of Hollywood's most
talented performers attempt to help her as she stumbles through the awkward
recital of each of her lines.

And I'm not the only one who feels this way:

Here's how Cheech summed up
the situation in_Bullets Over Broadway_:

"She throws the whole thing out of whack. Can't you see it? Every time I
hear that voice, it's like a knife in my ****in' heart. She can't act! You
listening to me? She makes stuff not work. Stuff she ain't even in, it comes
out twisted. Leave me alone. I got a ****in' headache."

I couldn't have said it better myself.

On the other hand, Miss Coppola's lousy acting does liven up an otherwise
dull movie with an element of comic relief.

One-Shot Scot

Per One-Shot Scot:
>It's embarrassing to watch some of Hollywood's most
>talented performers attempt to help her as she stumbles through the awkward
>recital of each of her lines.
>
>And I'm not the only one who feels this way:

Rest assured... I'm no movie expert, but from her first appearance I just
couldn't believe that anybody that bad could appear in such a big-name film.
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PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell)