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Toshiba to delay HD DVD player launch

By Tokyo
December 14, 2005 - 10:04AM

Japanese electronics maker Toshiba says copy protection issues would
delay the Japan launch of the first players supporting its HD DVD
format, the latest development in the high-stakes battle for the next
generation of video discs.

Players will not hit the Japanese market until details of a copy
protection system for the players were worked out, Toshiba said in a
statement, reversing its earlier intention to roll out the first
players in Japan by the end of the year. Toshiba did not give a
specific release date.

But the company said it would continue to push for a US launch early
next year.

The delay brings the launch of the HD DVD, jointly developed by
Toshiba and NEC, closer to the expected debut of its main competitor,
the Blu-ray disc, which is backed by Sony.

PlayStation 3, Sony's popular next-generation video game console, is
expected in Japan early next year and will read Blu-ray discs.

The two formats are incompatible, raising fears of a repeat of the
VHS-versus-Beta battle over the format for videotape recorders in the
early 1980s.

The HD DVD is backed by Universal Studios, NEC, Sanyo and Intel as
well as Microsoft.

Blu-ray is backed by Apple, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, and Samsung along
with a number of other tech companies and studios.

Warner Brothers has said it would release its films in both formats.






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Very old news.

PS

Blu Ray is expecting to take until June to get the copy protection sorted
out....then months thereafter to deliver.

"Alpha" <> wrote in message
news:...
> PS
>
> Blu Ray is expecting to take until June to get the copy protection sorted
> out....then months thereafter to deliver.
>
>

Are you serious? I thought we were expecting a March (Spring) PS3 Japanese
launch.

"kaydigi" <> wrote in message
news:gz%nf.645$Jr1.320@trnddc01...
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> "Alpha" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> PS
>>
>> Blu Ray is expecting to take until June to get the copy protection sorted
>> out....then months thereafter to deliver.
>>
>>
>
> Are you serious? I thought we were expecting a March (Spring) PS3 Japanese
> launch.
>

I cannot figure out the conflicting announcements either.

"kaydigi" <> wrote in message
news:gz%nf.645$Jr1.320@trnddc01...
>
> "Alpha" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> PS
>>
>> Blu Ray is expecting to take until June to get the copy protection sorted
>> out....then months thereafter to deliver.
>>
>>
>
> Are you serious? I thought we were expecting a March (Spring) PS3 Japanese
> launch.
>

I suspect that they will include the hardware, but it won't do much until
final decisions are made and firmware upgrades activate the drive for video.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:58:46 -0800, "Alpha" <> wrote:

>
>"kaydigi" <> wrote in message
>news:gz%nf.645$Jr1.320@trnddc01...
>>
>> "Alpha" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> PS
>>>
>>> Blu Ray is expecting to take until June to get the copy protection sorted
>>> out....then months thereafter to deliver.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Are you serious? I thought we were expecting a March (Spring) PS3 Japanese
>> launch.
>>
>
>I suspect that they will include the hardware,

No ****. Hardware will be there.... and you will be able to use it.






"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:03:55 -0800, "Alpha" <> wrote:

>Very old news.
>

Very "old"?






"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

"Allan" <Spamstillsucks@buffyandkantica22arestillbrianlamb .org> wrote in
message news:...
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:58:46 -0800, "Alpha" <> wrote:
>
>>
>>"kaydigi" <> wrote in message
>>news:gz%nf.645$Jr1.320@trnddc01...
>>>
>>> "Alpha" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> PS
>>>>
>>>> Blu Ray is expecting to take until June to get the copy protection
>>>> sorted
>>>> out....then months thereafter to deliver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you serious? I thought we were expecting a March (Spring) PS3
>>> Japanese
>>> launch.
>>>
>>
>>I suspect that they will include the hardware,
>
> No ****. Hardware will be there.... and you will be able to use it.

Not for HD Video initially...I can't see how that can be done without
standards agreed to.

>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
> because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable
> from
> -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free
> time."
> - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

"Alpha" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Allan" <Spamstillsucks@buffyandkantica22arestillbrianlamb .org> wrote in
> message news:...
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:58:46 -0800, "Alpha" <> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"kaydigi" <> wrote in message
>>>news:gz%nf.645$Jr1.320@trnddc01...
>>>>
>>>> "Alpha" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> PS
>>>>>
>>>>> Blu Ray is expecting to take until June to get the copy protection
>>>>> sorted
>>>>> out....then months thereafter to deliver.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you serious? I thought we were expecting a March (Spring) PS3
>>>> Japanese
>>>> launch.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I suspect that they will include the hardware,
>>
>> No ****. Hardware will be there.... and you will be able to use it.
>
> Not for HD Video initially...I can't see how that can be done without
> standards agreed to.

PS

The official Blu Ray site lists not a single blu ray commercial player as
announced, other than the early models already out in Asia.