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Kimba W. Lion <> wrote in
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> "" <> wrote:
>>I would like to delete the wide screen movie and replace it with the
>>full screen movie (sorry purists) to have a fully working DVD.
>
> Since most movies these days are shot full-frame and masked to
> widescreen in the theater projector, your quest is not as outlandish
> as some faux-purists may wish to make it seem. (I don't know the
> specifics about this particular movie, however.)

Thanks for the honest reply, and that is exactly the case in these two
releases, the wide screen version is actually the full screen version,
cropped off, as I stated in my follow up reply to that nut case.

I'm sure this isn't the case with the earlier releases, and pan and scan
was needed. But I'm fairly certain now, especially after seeing this one
side by side, that it is probably the norm now for todays movies to do
this, in order to save the money on pan-and-scan editing later.

So it is actually the wide-screen viewers of today who are losing out on
film "real-estate".

I remember when DVDs first came out, they were promising that they would
always have "both" versions available on the same CD, so you could view
either one, depending which TV type you owned.

Obviously, that never happened.

> If I understand your complaint about your re-made disc, try this: when
> you go to play this movie, go into your player's setup and find the
> setting for TV type. Change it to 16:9 or widescreen or something like
> that and see how your movie looks. Naturally, you will have to change
> it back after you watch this disc, but it could work.

I will take your advice and try hand-authoring it again, and burning it
to a test DVD-RW to see if that works. I only noticed this artifact on my
computer with Power-DVD and believed it would do the same on my Phillips
DVP642.

> IF that's not satisfactory, perhaps it will help to take your problem
> to finer details. How is it that the extras on one disc are "broken"
> but the movie plays? Is the disc physically damaged? Could it be
> player incompatibility--that the disc will work on another player?

The extras on the broken disk were from the one I downloaded off one of
the cross-posted newsgroups here. I believe the original posted tried
compressing it to save the extras, but now it comes out as stuttered
images, so it probably is unsalvagable.

The wide screen one was from an original DVD borrowed from a library,
so it's menus work fine.

Interestingly, the wide screen version has all the xtras in full screen,
including that game on it. Go figure.

Marcel

In article <sZqdnRIq7rcXDsneRVn->, Marcel
<> wrote:

> So it is actually the wide-screen viewers of today who are losing out on
> film "real-estate".

Not really. It all depends on the director of the movie and what
format he filmed the movie in.

There are directors that don't care for widescreen and film in
fullscreen and crop the movie and there are directors that only film in
widescreen and then crop/pan and scan for a fullscreen.

There are many types of cameras and filming methods...

Don't base your assumptions on one movie.

Herman

Get TMPGenc DVD Author. http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda.html
Open VOBs and choose chapters that you want to keep from DVD 1.
Open VOBs and choose chapters that you want to keep from DVD 2.
Tinker with the menu structure and chapters until you are happy with them.
Burn.

Aha, so you are both a full screen moron and an asshole video pirate.

Go to the store, buy the full screen version. Problem solved.

- Jordan

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:17:46 -0500, Marcel <> wrote:

>Thanks for the honest reply, and that is exactly the case in these two
>releases, the wide screen version is actually the full screen version,
>cropped off, as I stated in my follow up reply to that nut case.
>
>I'm sure this isn't the case with the earlier releases, and pan and scan
>was needed. But I'm fairly certain now, especially after seeing this one
>side by side, that it is probably the norm now for todays movies to do
>this, in order to save the money on pan-and-scan editing later.

Are there any other facts that you are fairly certain of? I imagine
someone with your convictions could be fairly certain that the earth
is flat and that the moon landing was faked.

You should try to become more informed about a subject before you
claim to be "fairly certain" about anything. Your knowledge of film
aspect ratios and home video formats is somewhat lacking. Perhaps you
should read up a little. I would suggest doing searches with the
keywords "open matte transfer" and "anamorphic 2.35 aspect ratio"
before you claim to know what the norm is for today's movies. You'll
find that there are a high percentage of movies which cannot be
transfered open matte as you suggest.

I would also suggest that seeing more picture doesn't mean seeing a
better picture.

"Herman Munster" <> wrote in message
news:181020051038545411%...
> In article <sZqdnRIq7rcXDsneRVn->, Marcel
> <> wrote:
>
>> So it is actually the wide-screen viewers of today who are losing out on
>> film "real-estate".
>
> Not really. It all depends on the director of the movie and what
> format he filmed the movie in.
>
> There are directors that don't care for widescreen and film in
> fullscreen and crop the movie and there are directors that only film in
> widescreen and then crop/pan and scan for a fullscreen.
>
> There are many types of cameras and filming methods...
>
> Don't base your assumptions on one movie.
>
> Herman