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Old 10-11-2005, 01:21 PM   #1
Default Re: Hammond's SPOG SCIENTIFICALLY falsefied


On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:07:55 -0000, "Dave" <> wrote:


>[Dave]
>i hate to have to point out the obvious, especially if it defends 'spog'...
>but the way he made that 'prediction' it is impossible to prove it false.
>of course you may also never be able to prove it true either, but you
>definately can't prove it false.



[Hammond]
Whaddaru talking about?

You make the 10 second video clip (as described below and posted
MANY TIMES), and then you assemble 10 adults (all over age 1
and 10 children ages 5-8 years old to watch it (simultaneously... all
20 of them)... on a single t.v. set.

Then you ask the kids... did you see the movie?... answer: "No...
it just looked like a blank screen".

Then you ask the adults... did you see the movie?....answer: " YES...
it was a movie of the Kentucky Derby and horse #77 won
the race".

OK.... that's PROOF POSITIVE.... what the hell are you
talking about "impossible to prove".... you're a screwball.


--------------original post-----------------------
[Hammond]
It is a TESTABLE prediciton.

thousands of people have asked me to post a
TESTABLE PREDICITON of the SPOG (scientific
Proof of God)

Well, here it is, I predict that:

IT IS POSSIBLE TO MAKE A VIDEO MOVIE
WHICH IS VISIBLE TO AN ADULT, BUT
WILL BE INVISBLE TO A KID.

that is a TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG, since
such a thing has NEVER been done before!

[Hammond]
.... here's how the video is to be made:

In fact, it is known (Riedel 1966) that a
1/15 of a second flash CAN be seen by and adult, but
not by the kid..... in fact you have to increase the
lenght of the flash to 1/10 of a second before the kid can
see it.

This is why the PFF (picture fusion frequency) of adults
is known to be 15 frames/sec, but for a 7 year old it
is known to be 10 frames/second (Riedel 1966).

OK... this tells you that if you make a "movie" out of
a series of brief flashes (1 or 2 video frames) which
are too short to be Seen by a kid, but long enough to be
seen by an adult.... voila...you have made a (crude)
movie that is VISBLE to an adult, but is INVISIBLE
to a child.


For instance, using ordinary 30 frames/second video,
I predict that the following video clip will be a movie
that will be VISIBLE to an adult, and INVISIBE to a
kid of 5 years old:


01|02|...|...|...|...|07|08|...|...|...|...|13|14| ...|...|...|...|19|20|...|..|...|...|25|26|...|... |...|...|-------repeat10times------>

(NOTE: this is 1-second of a standard video, to make
the movie clip simply repeat it ten times to make a 10
second vido clip)

NOTE:

----->|...|<------ = 1/30 of a second (one frame)

----->|19|20|<----- = 1/15 of a second (2 frames)

----->|...|...|...|...|<------ = 1/7.5 of a second (4 frames)

The numbered frames are frames from an actual REAL MOVIE video, while
the |...| frames are BLANK (light gray) frames.

Remember, 2 frames is 2(1/30) = 1/15 of a second, so the ADULT
should see the numbered frames. The 4 repeated |...| frames take
1/7.5 seconds, so the kid can see those, but he cannot see the double
numbered frames.

So it is clear to me that the above sequence will be a VISIBLE MOVIE
to an adult...... but will be an INVISIBLE MOVIE to a 5 year old
kid............ and this constitutes a PROOF that there is an
INVISBLE WORLD which more fully GROWN people can SEE, but
which less fully GROWN people CAN'T SEE.


[Hammond]
SO.... I have just made a TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG... and
anyone is free to get out his video editor on his desktop computer
and TEST IT. Until then,

PUT Up OR SHUT UP!


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Old 10-11-2005, 01:34 PM   #2
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:21:12 GMT, George Hammond
<> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:07:55 -0000, "Dave" <> wrote:
>
>
>>[Dave]
>>i hate to have to point out the obvious, especially if it defends 'spog'...
>>but the way he made that 'prediction' it is impossible to prove it false.
>>of course you may also never be able to prove it true either, but you
>>definately can't prove it false.

>
>
>[Hammond]
>Whaddaru talking about?
>
>You make the 10 second video clip (as described below and posted
>MANY TIMES), and then you assemble 10 adults (all over age 1
>and 10 children ages 5-8 years old to watch it (simultaneously... all
>20 of them)... on a single t.v. set.
>
>Then you ask the kids... did you see the movie?... answer: "No...
>it just looked like a blank screen".
>
>Then you ask the adults... did you see the movie?....answer: " YES...
>it was a movie of the Kentucky Derby and horse #77 won
>the race".
>
>OK.... that's PROOF POSITIVE.... what the hell are you
>talking about "impossible to prove".... you're a screwball.
>
>
>--------------original post-----------------------
>[Hammond]
>It is a TESTABLE prediciton.
>
>thousands of people have asked me to post a
>TESTABLE PREDICITON of the SPOG (scientific
>Proof of God)
>
>Well, here it is, I predict that:
>
> IT IS POSSIBLE TO MAKE A VIDEO MOVIE
> WHICH IS VISIBLE TO AN ADULT, BUT
> WILL BE INVISBLE TO A KID.
>
>that is a TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG, since
>such a thing has NEVER been done before!
>
>[Hammond]
>... here's how the video is to be made:
>
>In fact, it is known (Riedel 1966) that a
>1/15 of a second flash CAN be seen by and adult, but
>not by the kid..... in fact you have to increase the
>lenght of the flash to 1/10 of a second before the kid can
>see it.
>
>This is why the PFF (picture fusion frequency) of adults
>is known to be 15 frames/sec, but for a 7 year old it
>is known to be 10 frames/second (Riedel 1966).
>
>OK... this tells you that if you make a "movie" out of
>a series of brief flashes (1 or 2 video frames) which
>are too short to be Seen by a kid, but long enough to be
>seen by an adult.... voila...you have made a (crude)
>movie that is VISBLE to an adult, but is INVISIBLE
>to a child.
>
>
>For instance, using ordinary 30 frames/second video,
>I predict that the following video clip will be a movie
>that will be VISIBLE to an adult, and INVISIBE to a
>kid of 5 years old:
>
>
>01|02|...|...|...|...|07|08|...|...|...|...|13|14 |...|...|...|...|19|20|...|..|...|...|25|26|...|.. .|...|...|-------repeat10times------>
>
>(NOTE: this is 1-second of a standard video, to make
>the movie clip simply repeat it ten times to make a 10
>second vido clip)
>
> NOTE:
>
>----->|...|<------ = 1/30 of a second (one frame)
>
>----->|19|20|<----- = 1/15 of a second (2 frames)
>
>----->|...|...|...|...|<------ = 1/7.5 of a second (4 frames)
>
>The numbered frames are frames from an actual REAL MOVIE video, while
>the |...| frames are BLANK (light gray) frames.
>
>Remember, 2 frames is 2(1/30) = 1/15 of a second, so the ADULT
>should see the numbered frames. The 4 repeated |...| frames take
>1/7.5 seconds, so the kid can see those, but he cannot see the double
>numbered frames.
>
>So it is clear to me that the above sequence will be a VISIBLE MOVIE
>to an adult...... but will be an INVISIBLE MOVIE to a 5 year old
>kid............ and this constitutes a PROOF that there is an
>INVISBLE WORLD which more fully GROWN people can SEE, but
>which less fully GROWN people CAN'T SEE.
>
>
>[Hammond]
>SO.... I have just made a TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG... and
>anyone is free to get out his video editor on his desktop computer
>and TEST IT. Until then,
>
> PUT Up OR SHUT UP!
>
>
>========================================
> SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
>http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
> mirror site:
>http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
>=======================================
>Join COSA church (Church of the Scientific Advent)
>Send a blank email to
>and your email address will be added to the
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:50 PM   #3
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"George Hammond" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:07:55 -0000, "Dave" <> wrote:
>
>
>>[Dave]
>>i hate to have to point out the obvious, especially if it defends
>>'spog'...
>>but the way he made that 'prediction' it is impossible to prove it false.
>>of course you may also never be able to prove it true either, but you
>>definately can't prove it false.

>
>
> [Hammond]
> Whaddaru talking about?
>


<rant snipped>

READ WHAT I SAID! I AM SUPPORTING YOU(darn it)! i said that the statement
you made is 'impossible to prove false', which means that it is impossible
to to prove it can't be done, which means that even though i don't know how
to do it there is no way i could prove that someone somewhere somehow
couldn't do it.





Dave
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Old 10-12-2005, 12:36 AM   #4
George Hammond
 
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:50:27 -0000, "Dave" <> wrote:

>
>"George Hammond" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:07:55 -0000, "Dave" <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>[Dave]
>>>i hate to have to point out the obvious, especially if it defends
>>>'spog'...
>>>but the way he made that 'prediction' it is impossible to prove it false.
>>>of course you may also never be able to prove it true either, but you
>>>definately can't prove it false.

>>
>>
>> [Hammond]
>> Whaddaru talking about?
>>

>
><rant snipped>
>
>READ WHAT I SAID! I AM SUPPORTING YOU(darn it)! i said that the statement
>you made is 'impossible to prove false', which means that it is impossible
>to to prove it can't be done, which means that even though i don't know how
>to do it there is no way i could prove that someone somewhere somehow
>couldn't do it.



[Hammond]
Cripes..... my appologies Dave.... Judas' priest.... people are
making such outrageous statments.... it's hard to tell who's on what
side of what issue!

OK... all I'm sayinjg is this:

It is possible to make a video movie, when played on
a t.v. in front of 10 kids (all less than 7) and 10
adults (all over 1..... the movie will be INVISIBLE
to the kids, but clearly VISIBLE to the adults!

That's exactly what I'm saying, and obviously such a thing is
PROVEABLE.... since it's easy enough to find 10 kids and 10
adults and TRY IT!

NOW, such a thing has never been done before in the history of
the world...... but I say it can be done.... as a reslut of my
research on the SPOG.

Basically, the fact that you can make a movie that is INVISIBLE to
some people, and VISIBLE to others (based purely on growth)
PROVES that there is an "invible world" that actually exists...
and therefore it proves that ther is a "God".

Now, I have posted the simple way to MAKE such a video
movie.... and I will post it here again. All it calls for is a simple
desktop computer viedo editor and a couple of hours of farting
around to make the movie:

------------original post--------------------------

[Hammond]
Thousands of people have asked me to post a
TESTABLE PREDICITON of the SPOG (scientific
Proof of God)

Well, here it is, I predict that:

IT IS POSSIBLE TO MAKE A VIDEO MOVIE
WHICH IS VISIBLE TO ADULTS, BUT
WILL BE INVISBLE TO KIDS.

That is a TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG, since
such a thing has NEVER been done before!

[Hammond]
.... here's how the video is to be made:

In fact, it is known (Riedel 1966) that a
1/15 of a second flash CAN be seen by and adult, but
not by the kid..... in fact you have to increase the
lenght of the flash to 1/10 of a second before the kid can
see it.

This is why the PFF (picture fusion frequency) of adults
is known to be 15 frames/sec, but for a 7 year old it
is known to be 10 frames/second (Riedel 1966).

OK... this tells you that if you make a "movie" out of
a series of brief flashes (1 or 2 video frames) which
are too short to be Seen by a kid, but long enough to be
seen by an adult.... voila...you have made a (crude)
movie that is VISBLE to an adult, but is INVISIBLE
to a child.


For instance, using ordinary 30 frames/second video,
I predict that the following video clip will be a movie
that will be VISIBLE to an adult, and INVISIBE to a
kid of 5 years old:


01|02|...|...|...|...|07|08|...|...|...|...|13|14| ...|...|...|...|19|20|...|..|...|...|25|26|...|... |...|...|-------repeat10times------>

(NOTE: this is 1-second of a standard video, to make
the movie clip simply repeat it ten times to make a 10
second vido clip)

NOTE:

----->|...|<------ = 1/30 of a second (one frame)

----->|19|20|<----- = 1/15 of a second (2 frames)

----->|...|...|...|...|<------ = 1/7.5 of a second (4 frames)

The numbered frames are frames from an actual REAL MOVIE video, while
the |...| frames are BLANK (light gray) frames.

Remember, 2 frames is 2(1/30) = 1/15 of a second, so the ADULT
should see the numbered frames. The 4 repeated |...| frames take
1/7.5 seconds, so the kid can see those, but he cannot see the double
numbered frames.

So it is clear to me that the above sequence will be a VISIBLE MOVIE
to an adult...... but will be an INVISIBLE MOVIE to a 5 year old
kid............ and this constitutes a PROOF that there is an
INVISBLE WORLD which more fully GROWN people can SEE, but
which less fully GROWN people CAN'T SEE.


[Hammond]
SO.... I have just made a TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG... and
anyone is free to get out his video editor on his desktop computer
and TEST IT.

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
=======================================
Join COSA church (Church of the Scientific Advent)
Send a blank email to
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Old 10-12-2005, 12:43 AM   #5
Mahatana Dick
 
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George Hammond, <> wrote:

> OK... all I'm sayinjg is this:
>
> It is possible to make a video movie, when played on
> a t.v. in front of 10 kids (all less than 7) and 10
> adults (all over 1..... the movie will be INVISIBLE
> to the kids, but clearly VISIBLE to the adults!
>
> That's exactly what I'm saying, and obviously such a thing is
> PROVEABLE.... since it's easy enough to find 10 kids and 10
> adults and TRY IT!
>
> NOW, such a thing has never been done before in the history of
> the world...... but I say it can be done.... as a reslut of my
> research on the SPOG.


Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for? Someone to beat you to it and
take the unending fame that goes with it, not to mention the millions of
dollars in patent rights, etc. etc.?

--
Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S, September 2005.



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Old 10-12-2005, 01:14 AM   #6
George Hammond
 
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:28:50 +0545, Mahatana Dick
<> wrote:

>George Hammond, <> wrote:
>
>> OK... all I'm sayinjg is this:
>>
>> It is possible to make a video movie, when played on
>> a t.v. in front of 10 kids (all less than 7) and 10
>> adults (all over 1..... the movie will be INVISIBLE
>> to the kids, but clearly VISIBLE to the adults!
>>
>> That's exactly what I'm saying, and obviously such a thing is
>> PROVEABLE.... since it's easy enough to find 10 kids and 10
>> adults and TRY IT!
>>
>> NOW, such a thing has never been done before in the history of
>> the world...... but I say it can be done.... as a reslut of my
>> research on the SPOG.

>



>Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for?


[Hammond]
I don't have to do it.
As a theoritician and the discovererof the SPOG all I have
to do is make an ESSILY TESTABLE PREDITION that will
prove the theory.

THOUSANDS of my critics have been screaming...

MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON
MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON
MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON
MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON

WELL......... I JUST DID.....

SO YOU'VE GOT NOTHING LEFT TO CRITICIZE...

YOU WANNA PROVE ME WRONG..... YOU GO DO THE TEST...

and Ive explained a million times how to EASILY make the
move:

[Hammond]
.... here's how the video is to be made:

In fact, it is known (Riedel 1966) that a
1/15 of a second flash CAN be seen by and adult, but
not by the kid..... in fact you have to increase the
lenght of the flash to 1/10 of a second before the kid can
see it.

This is why the PFF (picture fusion frequency) of adults
is known to be 15 frames/sec, but for a 7 year old it
is known to be 10 frames/second (Riedel 1966).

OK... this tells you that if you make a "movie" out of
a series of brief flashes (1 or 2 video frames) which
are too short to be Seen by a kid, but long enough to be
seen by an adult.... voila...you have made a (crude)
movie that is VISBLE to an adult, but is INVISIBLE
to a child.


For instance, using ordinary 30 frames/second video,
I predict that the following video clip will be a movie
that will be VISIBLE to an adult, and INVISIBE to a
kid of 5 years old:


01|02|...|...|...|...|07|08|...|...|...|...|13|14| ...|...|...|...|19|20|...|..|...|...|25|26|...|... |...|...|-------repeat10times------>

(NOTE: this is 1-second of a standard video, to make
the movie clip simply repeat it ten times to make a 10
second vido clip)

NOTE:

----->|...|<------ = 1/30 of a second (one frame)

----->|19|20|<----- = 1/15 of a second (2 frames)

----->|...|...|...|...|<------ = 1/7.5 of a second (4 frames)

The numbered frames are frames from an actual REAL MOVIE video, while
the |...| frames are BLANK (light gray) frames.

Remember, 2 frames is 2(1/30) = 1/15 of a second, so the ADULT
should see the numbered frames. The 4 repeated |...| frames take
1/7.5 seconds, so the kid can see those, but he cannot see the double
numbered frames.

So it is clear to me that the above sequence will be a VISIBLE MOVIE
to an adult...... but will be an INVISIBLE MOVIE to a 5 year old
kid............ and this constitutes a PROOF that there is an
INVISBLE WORLD which more fully GROWN people can SEE, but
which less fully GROWN people CAN'T SEE.


[Hammond]
SO.... I have just made a TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG... and
anyone is free to get out his video editor on his desktop computer
and TEST IT. Until then,

PUT UP OR SHUT UP!







Someone to beat you to it and
>take the unending fame that goes with it, not to mention the millions of
>dollars in patent rights, etc. etc.?


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mirror site:
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:51 AM   #7
Mahatana Dick
 
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George Hammond, <> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:28:50 +0545, Mahatana Dick
> <> wrote:
>
>> George Hammond, <> wrote:
>>
>>> OK... all I'm sayinjg is this:
>>>
>>> It is possible to make a video movie, when played on
>>> a t.v. in front of 10 kids (all less than 7) and 10
>>> adults (all over 1..... the movie will be INVISIBLE
>>> to the kids, but clearly VISIBLE to the adults!
>>>
>>> That's exactly what I'm saying, and obviously such a thing is
>>> PROVEABLE.... since it's easy enough to find 10 kids and 10
>>> adults and TRY IT!
>>>
>>> NOW, such a thing has never been done before in the history of
>>> the world...... but I say it can be done.... as a reslut of my
>>> research on the SPOG.

>>

>
>
>> Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for?

>
> [Hammond]
> I don't have to do it.
> As a theoritician and the discovererof the SPOG all I have
> to do is make an ESSILY TESTABLE PREDITION that will
> prove the theory.


The only reason you won't do it is because you know that it won't work; or
at least you suspect it.

> THOUSANDS of my critics have been screaming...
>
> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON
> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON
> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON
> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICITON
>
> WELL......... I JUST DID.....
>
> SO YOU'VE GOT NOTHING LEFT TO CRITICIZE...


Would like to take bets on that, NetNutter? Nobody wants you to "MAKE AN
ESSILY [sic] TESTABLE PREDICITON [sic]" - from what I've been reading,
people have been telling you to prove it yourself, yet you continue to
delude yourself into believing that your ****witted PREDICITON [sic] is
proof enough, and not just 'proof' for your ****witted non-theory, but proof
of the existence of God. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

> YOU WANNA PROVE ME WRONG..... YOU GO DO THE TEST...


There is no need to do the test. You were already given a large amount of
counter-argument, evidence and logic as to why it will not work. You snipped
it, in its entirety and started yelling, "ESSILY [sic] TESTABLE PREDICITON
[sic] of the SPOG! ESSILY [sic] TESTABLE PREDICITON [sic] of the SPOG!
ESSILY [sic] TESTABLE PREDICITON [sic] of the SPOG!"

> PUT UP OR SHUT UP!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You can't put up and you won't shut up, you
****ing NetNutter, so why should any sane person?

--
Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S, September 2005.



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Old 10-12-2005, 10:34 AM   #8
George Hammond
 
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 06:36:25 +0545, Mahatana Dick
<> wrote:

>George Hammond, <> wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:28:50 +0545, Mahatana Dick
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> George Hammond, <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK... all I'm sayinjg is this:
>>>>
>>>> It is possible to make a video movie, when played on
>>>> a t.v. in front of 10 kids (all less than 7) and 10
>>>> adults (all over 1..... the movie will be INVISIBLE
>>>> to the kids, but clearly VISIBLE to the adults!
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly what I'm saying, and obviously such a thing is
>>>> PROVEABLE.... since it's easy enough to find 10 kids and 10
>>>> adults and TRY IT!
>>>>
>>>> NOW, such a thing has never been done before in the history of
>>>> the world...... but I say it can be done.... as a reslut of my
>>>> research on the SPOG.
>>>

>>
>>
>>> Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for?

>>
>> [Hammond]
>> I don't have to do it.
>> As a theoritician and the discovererof the SPOG all I have
>> to do is make an EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION that will
>> prove the theory.

>


>The only reason you won't do it is because you know that it won't work; or
>at least you suspect it.



[Hammond]
I have every (experimental and theoretical) reason to believe that it
WILL work. For instance Riedel proved in 1966 that the PFF
of a 7 year old is only 10 frames/sec, while the PFF of an adult is 15
frames/sec....... that is a 33% difference..... and IS SUFFICIENT in
my opinion to render a specially constructed video INVISIBLE to the
kid, but VISIBLE to the adult.


>
>> THOUSANDS of my critics have been screaming...
>>
>> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICTION!
>> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICTION!
>> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICTION!
>> MAKE A TESTABLE PREDICTION!
>>
>> WELL......... I JUST DID.....
>>
>> SO YOU'VE GOT NOTHING LEFT TO CRITICIZE...

>
>Would like to take bets on that, NetNutter? Nobody wants you to "MAKE AN
>EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION " - from what I've been reading,


[Hammond]
sure talk is cheap.... they can talk the talk, but they can't walk the
walk.

>people have been telling you to prove it yourself, yet you continue to
>delude yourself into believing that your ****witted PREDCITON is
>proof enough, and not just 'proof' for your ****witted non-theory, but proof
>of the existence of God. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


[Hammond]
they asked for a "TESTABLE PREDICTION" and I gave it to them.
end of argument.




>
>> YOU WANNA PROVE ME WRONG..... YOU GO DO THE TEST...

>
>There is no need to do the test. You were already given a large amount of
>counter-argument, evidence and logic as to why it will not work.


[Hammond]
WRONG.

1. (Riedel 1966) experimentally PROVED there is a 33% difference
in the PFF between a 7 year old and a 15 year old. That is
SUFFICNET EVIDENCE that it will work.

2. NO ONE has, or can, cite any counter evidence. You're just a
mealy mouth liar, that's all.

> You snipped
>it, in its entirety and started yelling, "EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION
> of the SPOG! EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG!
>EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG!"


[Hammond]
Hey... SORRY, but the fact that THERE IS a SIMPLE AND DRAMATIC
experimental test of the SPOG is a pain in the ass for you! Scream
about it all you like. The fact that I have made an EASILY TESTABLE
PREDICTION OF THE SPOG isn't going to go away just because you want it
to go away.

>
>> PUT UP OR SHUT UP!


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Old 10-12-2005, 10:47 AM   #9
Mahatana Dick
 
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George Hammond, <> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 06:36:25 +0545, Mahatana Dick
> <> wrote:
>
>> George Hammond, <> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:28:50 +0545, Mahatana Dick
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George Hammond, <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK... all I'm sayinjg is this:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is possible to make a video movie, when played on
>>>>> a t.v. in front of 10 kids (all less than 7) and 10
>>>>> adults (all over 1..... the movie will be INVISIBLE
>>>>> to the kids, but clearly VISIBLE to the adults!
>>>>>
>>>>> That's exactly what I'm saying, and obviously such a thing is
>>>>> PROVEABLE.... since it's easy enough to find 10 kids and 10
>>>>> adults and TRY IT!
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, such a thing has never been done before in the history of
>>>>> the world...... but I say it can be done.... as a reslut of my
>>>>> research on the SPOG.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for?
>>>
>>> [Hammond]
>>> I don't have to do it.
>>> As a theoritician and the discovererof the SPOG all I have
>>> to do is make an EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION that will
>>> prove the theory.

>>

>
>> The only reason you won't do it is because you know that it won't
>> work; or at least you suspect it.

>
>
> [Hammond]
> I have every (experimental and theoretical) reason to believe that it
> WILL work.


Earlier you claimed to be a "theoritician" [sic] and disclaimed, by
implication, all erxperiments. See...?

>> Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for?

>
> [Hammond]
> I don't have to do it.
> As a theoritician and the discovererof the SPOG all I have
> to do is make an ESSILY TESTABLE PREDITION that will
> prove the theory.


So, which is it? You've done the experiments therefore your prediction isn't
a prediction, or you've not done the experiments and you're a liar?

> the PFF of an adult is 15 frames/sec.


Or less, yes?

>> people have been telling you to prove it yourself, yet you continue
>> to delude yourself into believing that your ****witted PREDCITON is
>> proof enough, and not just 'proof' for your ****witted non-theory,
>> but proof of the existence of God. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>
> [Hammond]
> they asked for a "TESTABLE PREDICTION" and I gave it to them.
> end of argument.


Well, no. There's still the matter of your your ****witted non-theory being
a your ****witted non-theory.

> 2. NO ONE has, or can, cite any counter evidence. You're just a
> mealy mouth liar, that's all.


You mean no one can cite anything at all that you will accept unless it is
in 100% accord with your delusions, yes?

>> You snipped
>> it, in its entirety and started yelling, "EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION
>> of the SPOG! EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG!
>> EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG!"

>
> [Hammond]
> Hey... SORRY, but the fact that THERE IS a SIMPLE AND DRAMATIC
> experimental test of the SPOG is a pain in the ass for you!


Well, if it's so simple, hop to it. What are you waiting for?

--
Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S, September 2005.



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Old 10-12-2005, 11:22 AM   #10
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:32:29 +0545, Mahatana Dick
<> wrote:

>George Hammond, <> wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 06:36:25 +0545, Mahatana Dick
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> George Hammond, <> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:28:50 +0545, Mahatana Dick
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> George Hammond, <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK... all I'm sayinjg is this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is possible to make a video movie, when played on
>>>>>> a t.v. in front of 10 kids (all less than 7) and 10
>>>>>> adults (all over 1..... the movie will be INVISIBLE
>>>>>> to the kids, but clearly VISIBLE to the adults!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's exactly what I'm saying, and obviously such a thing is
>>>>>> PROVEABLE.... since it's easy enough to find 10 kids and 10
>>>>>> adults and TRY IT!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOW, such a thing has never been done before in the history of
>>>>>> the world...... but I say it can be done.... as a reslut of my
>>>>>> research on the SPOG.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for?
>>>>
>>>> [Hammond]
>>>> I don't have to do it.
>>>> As a theoritician and the discovererof the SPOG all I have
>>>> to do is make an EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION that will
>>>> prove the theory.
>>>

>>
>>> The only reason you won't do it is because you know that it won't
>>> work; or at least you suspect it.

>>
>>
>> [Hammond]
>> I have every (experimental and theoretical) reason to believe that it
>> WILL work.

>



>Earlier you claimed to be a "theoretician"


[Hammond]
Got two degrees in physics to prove it.


> and disclaimed, by
>implication, all erxperiments. See...?


[Hammond]
You mis-spelled "experiments" phuckwit.


>
>>> Go on then, do it. What are you waiting for?

>>
>> [Hammond]
>> I don't have to do it.
>> As a theoritician and the discovererof the SPOG all I have
>> to do is make an ESSILY TESTABLE PREDITION that will
>> prove the theory.

>


>So, which is it? You've done the experiments therefore your prediction isn't
>a prediction, or you've not done the experiments and you're a liar?


[Hammond]
Neither phuckwit.

All a theory has to do is MAKE AN EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION, and
then the charge of "NON-FALSIFIABILITY" is DESTROYED.

the SPOG is now "CLEARLY FALSIFIABLE" therefore

THE SPOG IS A LEGITIMATE SCIENTIFIC THEORY



>
>> the PFF of an adult is 15 frames/sec.

>
>Or less, yes?


[Hammond]
15 fps is the population AVERAGE.

Actually the relation:

PFF = IQ/5 - 5

has been experimentally shown to hold (Lehrl, et al)


>
>>> people have been telling you to prove it yourself, yet you continue
>>> to delude yourself into believing that your ****witted PREDCITON is
>>> proof enough, and not just 'proof' for your ****witted non-theory,
>>> but proof of the existence of God. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>
>> [Hammond]
>> they asked for a "TESTABLE PREDICTION" and I gave it to them.
>> end of argument.

>
>Well, no. There's still the matter of your your ****witted non-theory being
>a your ****witted non-theory.


[Hammond]
But you're a "PHUCKWIT".


>
>> 2. NO ONE has, or can, cite any counter evidence. You're just a
>> mealy mouth liar, that's all.

>


>You mean no one can cite anything at all that you will accept unless it is
>in 100% accord with your delusions, yes?



[Hammond]
No Phuckwit.......... I don't accept any evidence unless it
has been published in the PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE.

and all of the evidence published in the PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC
LITERATURE SUPPORTS THE SPOG.

The comments of INTERNET PHUCKWITS is irrelevant.


>
>>> You snipped
>>> it, in its entirety and started yelling, "EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION
>>> of the SPOG! EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG!
>>> EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION of the SPOG!"

>>
>> [Hammond]
>> Hey... SORRY, but the fact that THERE IS a SIMPLE AND DRAMATIC
>> experimental test of the SPOG is a pain in the ass for you!

>



>Well, if it's so simple, hop to it. What are you waiting for?


[Hammond]
Einstein made an EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION of Genaral Relativity.

He said that it would bend starlight TWICE AS MUCH as Newtonian
gravity predicted. YOU DON'T EXPECT EINSTEIN TO GO OUT AND MEASURE
STARLIGHT DO YOU PHUCKWIT?

EDDINGTON MADE THE MEASUREMENTS AND EINSTEIN'S THEORY WAS PROVEN, A
HEADLIBNE PRODUCING EVENT IN 1920.


SAME WITH HAMMOND'S SPOG. HAMMOND HAS MADE AN

EASILY TESTABLE PREDICTION OF THE SPOG


NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOME GREASY HANDED EXPERIMENTALIST
WITH DIRTY FINGERNAILS TO DO THE EXPERIMENT.

LIKE EINSTEIN, I DON'T GET MY HADS DIRTY, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

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