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Old 10-02-2005, 01:44 PM   #1
Default Improper framing of NTSC DVDs on widescreen PAL television?


Folks,

I've recently bought a new widescreen (16:9) CRT Panasonic television
set.
I play many North American (Region 1) DVDs on my region-free Samsung
DVD55 DVD player. The two devices are connected via a SCART lead. The
fact that I have a PAL TV and DVD player may or may not be part of the
issue below.

I find that when I play any Reg 1 movie that has an aspect ratio of
1.85:1 (practically 16:9) the very top of the frame of the movie shows
a thin band of coloured pixels. It appears they are coming from the
bottom of the picture frame, particularly noticeable when the movie
scene is bright. It's reminiscent of older TVs that had problem with
the vertical hold.

I do not have this issue when playing 1.33:1, 1.66:1, or 2.35:1 films
that are Region 1. Nor do my Region 2 1.85:1 movies produce this issue.
Furthermore, my very old 4:3 television set that I used prior worked
fine.

Has anyone experienced anything similar? Any thoughts on a fix? It's
an irritating bug that just doesn't quite warrant getting this hulk of
a TV back to Curry's for "repair".

Evan



Evan
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:18 PM   #2
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Evan wrote:
|| Folks,
||
|| I've recently bought a new widescreen (16:9) CRT Panasonic television
|| set.
|| I play many North American (Region 1) DVDs on my region-free Samsung
|| DVD55 DVD player. The two devices are connected via a SCART lead.
|| The fact that I have a PAL TV and DVD player may or may not be part
|| of the issue below.
||
|| I find that when I play any Reg 1 movie that has an aspect ratio of
|| 1.85:1 (practically 16:9) the very top of the frame of the movie
|| shows a thin band of coloured pixels. It appears they are coming
|| from the bottom of the picture frame, particularly noticeable when
|| the movie scene is bright. It's reminiscent of older TVs that had
|| problem with the vertical hold.
||
|| I do not have this issue when playing 1.33:1, 1.66:1, or 2.35:1 films
|| that are Region 1. Nor do my Region 2 1.85:1 movies produce this
|| issue. Furthermore, my very old 4:3 television set that I used prior
|| worked fine.
||
|| Has anyone experienced anything similar? Any thoughts on a fix?
|| It's an irritating bug that just doesn't quite warrant getting this
|| hulk of a TV back to Curry's for "repair".
||
|| Evan

A tentative suggestion - does the Samsung have a setting to output NTSC
discs as PAL or PAL 60? Might be worth trying.....

paul


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Old 10-02-2005, 08:15 PM   #3
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"Evan" <> wrote:

>I do not have this issue when playing 1.33:1, 1.66:1, or 2.35:1 films
>that are Region 1. Nor do my Region 2 1.85:1 movies produce this issue.
>Furthermore, my very old 4:3 television set that I used prior worked
>fine.


Well, when you used your 4:3 TV, you would have had your DVD player set to
4:3 mode; in other words, the player would have been letterboxing any
widescreen picture before it got to the TV. So it's not really a parallel
situation.

Living with conversions in the opposite direction (PAL -> NTSC) I know
that all DVD players are not created equal and some have definite problems
with framing a PAL picture for an NTSC TV set. Usually our problems
involve cropping off part of the picture; it sounds like your problem is
that the DVD player is repeating a portion of the picture in each frame;
essentially the converted picture is too small vertically, and the DVD
player makes up the difference in lines by repeating one or more of the
last lines from each previous frame. In other words, yours is the converse
to the problem that is often noted when performing the opposite
conversion.

I can't think of a solution other than trying a different DVD player.
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:27 PM   #4
Evan
 
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It does, and I tried that....no difference

DVD player also has options to output video as RGB, Video, or S-Video.
No difference with any of them.

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Old 10-02-2005, 10:30 PM   #5
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NTSC output I mean....tried it.

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