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      09-27-2005
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm...view&news=5107

Ceatec: Toshiba to show laptop with HD-DVD drive
by Sumner Lemon, IDG News Service (Taipei Bureau)

Addition to Qosmio notebook line

Toshiba plans to show its first notebook computer with a built-in
HD-DVD drive at the Ceatec Japan 2005 exhibition next month, a company
spokeswoman has revealed.

The firm will show a new addition to its high-end Qosmio notebook line
that will include an integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, according to Midori
Suzuki, a representative of the company in Tokyo. The new drive will
allow users to watch high-definition videos on their computers.

“Toshiba is planning to commercialise the product at the beginning of
next year,” Suzuki said.

Few details of the HD-DVD-equipped notebook have been made available
ahead of the Ceatec show, which will be held near Tokyo from 4-8
October. The notebook will include a new high-resolution LCD.

Suzuki declined to disclose additional details about the system.

HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7mm high, according to Toshiba. The drive
uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read HD-DVD
discs and read and write to CD and DVD discs.

Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.

Suzuki said Toshiba has not decided how many Qosmio models will be
equipped with the HD-DVD-ROM drive and no decision has been made
regarding extending availability of the drive to the company’s other
notebook PC lines.

The HD-DVD-ROM drive is small enough to be used in small form-factor
notebooks, according to Toshiba.


**Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **






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      09-27-2005

"Allan" <(E-Mail Removed) t> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm...view&news=5107
>
> Ceatec: Toshiba to show laptop with HD-DVD drive
> by Sumner Lemon, IDG News Service (Taipei Bureau)
>
> Addition to Qosmio notebook line
>
> Toshiba plans to show its first notebook computer with a built-in
> HD-DVD drive at the Ceatec Japan 2005 exhibition next month, a company
> spokeswoman has revealed.
>
> The firm will show a new addition to its high-end Qosmio notebook line
> that will include an integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, according to Midori
> Suzuki, a representative of the company in Tokyo. The new drive will
> allow users to watch high-definition videos on their computers.
>
> "Toshiba is planning to commercialise the product at the beginning of
> next year," Suzuki said.
>
> Few details of the HD-DVD-equipped notebook have been made available
> ahead of the Ceatec show, which will be held near Tokyo from 4-8
> October. The notebook will include a new high-resolution LCD.
>
> Suzuki declined to disclose additional details about the system.
>
> HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
> integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
> notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7mm high, according to Toshiba. The drive
> uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read HD-DVD
> discs and read and write to CD and DVD discs.
>
> Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
> noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
> developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.
>
> Suzuki said Toshiba has not decided how many Qosmio models will be
> equipped with the HD-DVD-ROM drive and no decision has been made
> regarding extending availability of the drive to the company's other
> notebook PC lines.
>
> The HD-DVD-ROM drive is small enough to be used in small form-factor
> notebooks, according to Toshiba.
>
>
> **Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
> the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **
>

..
This is a good question. The other article you cite below implies that HD
DVD did not sign on to the Comprehensive Content Management System (CCMS),
whereas an article I read said that they did.

Confused situation, I believe. I do not think anyone currently writing in
the press, including the companies themselves, know what will appear for
sure in early 2006.



 
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      09-27-2005
Alpha ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
> > Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
> > noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
> > developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.
> >
> >
> > **Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
> > the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **
> >

> .
> This is a good question. The other article you cite below implies that HD
> DVD did not sign on to the Comprehensive Content Management System (CCMS),
> whereas an article I read said that they did.


Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement that
computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
that are stored on those discs.

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      09-28-2005

"Jeff Rife" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Alpha ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
>> > Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
>> > noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
>> > developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.
>> >
>> >
>> > **Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
>> > the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **
>> >

>> .
>> This is a good question. The other article you cite below implies that
>> HD
>> DVD did not sign on to the Comprehensive Content Management System
>> (CCMS),
>> whereas an article I read said that they did.

>
> Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
> I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement
> that
> computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
> that are stored on those discs.



That is an interesting point, indeed. I think everyone assumes you will be
able to...



 
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Alpha ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
> > Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
> > I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement
> > that
> > computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
> > that are stored on those discs.

>
>
> That is an interesting point, indeed. I think everyone assumes you will be
> able to...


If they allow it, that will be the weak point in the security system, as it
was for CSS.

I think the grab for money from the MPAA and CE companies will cause them
to allow software players, because they will get a cut of each sale. They
won't see that if piracy really is the problem they say it is, losing the
fairly small amount of cash from the software licensing ($250 million tops)
is a small price to pay to save the more than $2B they claim to lose each
year to piracy.

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      09-28-2005
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:27:35 -0700, "Alpha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Confused situation, I believe. I do not think anyone currently writing in
>the press, including the companies themselves, know what will appear for
>sure in early 2006.


For once we might agree! Shame these marketing departments have not
come and answered some very basic questions about these formats.

They leave them up to "internet rumors"; doing neither the companies
in question... nor the consumer, a good service.






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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:39:24 -0400, Jeff Rife <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
>I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement that
>computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
>that are stored on those discs.


So the assumption has never been that if you put a HD DVD in a HD DVD
Drive in your high end laptop that it would play with no problem?

A DVD in a DVD Rom should play?

A Cd in a CD ROM?

These are "odd: statements?






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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:16:49 -0700, "Alpha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>That is an interesting point, indeed. I think everyone assumes you will be
>able to...



"I think everyone assumes you will be able to..."

Naturally.






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      09-29-2005
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:39:24 -0400, Jeff Rife <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
>I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement that
>computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
>that are stored on those discs.



"HD-DVD Inside

HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7 millimeters high, according to Toshiba.
The drive uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read
HD-DVD discs and can read and write to CD and DVD discs, the company
said."


http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122741,00.asp






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"Allan" <(E-Mail Removed) t> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:39:24 -0400, Jeff Rife <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
>>I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement
>>that
>>computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
>>that are stored on those discs.

>
>
> "HD-DVD Inside
>
> HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
> integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
> notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7 millimeters high, according to Toshiba.
> The drive uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read
> HD-DVD discs and can read and write to CD and DVD discs, the company
> said."
>
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122741,00.asp
>


DVD does not mean video. Further, if it is video, it would apparently need
a network connection to work with that video.

We will see.



 
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