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"Allan" < t> wrote in
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> http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=1883

"Blu-ray will have a substantial, and fatal, lead over HD DVD within a
year Sony has now boasted"

Gee, so surprising. I wonder what the people at Sony think about the
X-Box 360, or the iPod, or any other product that competes with one of
their products?

Allan < t> wrote:
>
>http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=1883

I like this quote:

"Apple, Dell, HP, Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips,
Samsung, Sharp, TDK, Thomson, Twentieth Century Fox and
Walt Disney... have already declared their collective love for Sony’s
Blu-ray."

Apparentlythey thawed Walt's head long enough to get a thumbs-up
from the big man himself.

The real clue to Blu-Ray's possible edge is this though:

"Blu-ray will come as standard on the PlayStation 3 which is expected to
lead
to market (Sony apparently swallows an extra $100 per machine to
incorporate it)."

With it incorporated into PS3, what's going to happen is that a lot of
consumers are going to have a Blu-Ray player in the house almost
by default, while getting a HD-DVD player would be a seperate
decision. The PS2 was for a lot of people their first DVD player as well.

-Jay

In article <fB%Ye.2939$ et>,
"Joshua Zyber" <> wrote:

> "Blu-ray will have a substantial, and fatal, lead over HD DVD within a
> year Sony has now boasted"
>
> Gee, so surprising. I wonder what the people at Sony think about the
> X-Box 360, or the iPod, or any other product that competes with one of
> their products?

As much as I despise Microsoft and the way so many people gladly hand
over their money to them so they can monopolize everything, I'm starting
to hope they kick Sony's ass in the next console war. Sony's ego is
growing to the size of Bill Gates mansion at this point.

Get over yourself Sony. Your silly geek toy isn't the be all, end all of
future DVD formats.
--
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They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we." - George Dumbya Bush

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:42:15 -0600, Black Locust <>
wrote:

>In article <fB%Ye.2939$ et>,
> "Joshua Zyber" <> wrote:
>
>> "Blu-ray will have a substantial, and fatal, lead over HD DVD within a
>> year Sony has now boasted"
>>
>> Gee, so surprising. I wonder what the people at Sony think about the
>> X-Box 360, or the iPod, or any other product that competes with one of
>> their products?
>
>As much as I despise Microsoft and the way so many people gladly hand
>over their money to them so they can monopolize everything, I'm starting
>to hope they kick Sony's ass in the next console war. Sony's ego is
>growing to the size of Bill Gates mansion at this point.
>
>Get over yourself Sony. Your silly geek toy isn't the be all, end all of
>future DVD formats.


http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/092205sony/

Sony To Cut 10,000 Jobs

By Shane C. Buettner

September 22, 2005 — Consumer electronics giant Sony today announced a
major restructuring that will cut 10,000 jobs from its global work
force, close nearly a dozen manufacturing plants and will downsize or
terminate as many as 15 unprofitable business categories.






"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

In article <bl2112->,
Black Locust <> wrote:

> Get over yourself Sony. Your silly geek toy isn't the be all, end all of
> future DVD formats.

It may not be the end all but it's better than HD-DVD, the main
competitor at the moment.

"poldy" <> wrote in message
newsoldy-...
>> Get over yourself Sony. Your silly geek toy isn't the be all, end all
>> of
>> future DVD formats.
>
> It may not be the end all but it's better than HD-DVD, the main
> competitor at the moment.

How much direct experience do you have with both formats? Please
enlighten us.

>
> The real clue to Blu-Ray's possible edge is this though:
>
> "Blu-ray will come as standard on the PlayStation 3 which is expected to
> lead
> to market (Sony apparently swallows an extra $100 per machine to
> incorporate it)."

What is this $100 figure? Is it an additional $100 factory cost, or that
they would have charged the customer $100 more for the PS3 in the normal
course of events. Certainly the PS3 would have some sort of DVD player in
it. Is Sony saying that it will cost $100 more to provide Blu-Ray than it
would have if they'd used an ordinary DVD player? If so, this doesn't augur
well for the competitiveness of Blu-Ray.

If the $100 is the factory cost differential between Blu-Ray and ordinary
DVD, a number that comes right out of Sony's profit margin, I don't see how
it can be a success in the marketplace.

Norm Strong

<> wrote in message
news:KbydnS1Fzf02VKjeRVn-...
> If the $100 is the factory cost differential between Blu-Ray and
> ordinary DVD, a number that comes right out of Sony's profit margin, I
> don't see how it can be a success in the marketplace.

All of the videogame manufacturers sell their consoles below cost and
eat a loss. They more than make this up with software sales and
licensing.

Per poldy:
>It may not be the end all but it's better than HD-DVD, the main
>competitor at the moment.

It sounds like the Blu-Ray disks may be less robust than HD-DVD because, the way
I hear it, they get a few extra gigs by making the protective layer
substantially thinner.
--
PeteCresswell