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"Richard C." <post-> wrote in message
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> >> No receiver will choose EX automatically if the DVD isnt flagged
> >> correctly....
> >
> > On the contrary, almost every 6.1 receiver has a mode that will allow
you
> > to permanently engage EX decoding. There are many 5.1 discs that matrix
> > well into a surround rear channel when you turn on EX, even if they
> > weren't specifically mixed for it.
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> Which is why he used the word "automatically".
>

Which is now why I use the word exactly...to me "detect" means leaving your
reciever in auto mode, not manually putting it into EX mode...Personally I
always use auto and select EX only when appropriate (mis-flagged disks)for
sound the way it was intended to be heard.

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>> >> No receiver will choose EX automatically if the DVD isnt flagged
>> >> correctly....
>> >
>> > On the contrary, almost every 6.1 receiver has a mode that will allow
> you
>> > to permanently engage EX decoding. There are many 5.1 discs that matrix
>> > well into a surround rear channel when you turn on EX, even if they
>> > weren't specifically mixed for it.
>> ==============================================
>> Which is why he used the word "automatically".
>>
>
> Which is now why I use the word exactly...to me "detect" means leaving
> your
> reciever in auto mode, not manually putting it into EX mode...Personally I
> always use auto and select EX only when appropriate (mis-flagged disks)for
> sound the way it was intended to be heard.
>
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Just curious.......HOW do you detect a mis-flagged disc?
(hint - you can't)
Are you also aware that most EX discs are not even noted on the box or the
menu?

That is why I leave mine in 7.1 mode all the time.

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> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:51:13 -0700, "Richard C." <post->
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> forth these words of wisdom:
>
>
>>Are you sure?
>>If the flag is not on the DVD, then no receiver in the world can detect
>>it.
>>That is why I just leave my Elite 49tx on 7.1.
>
> Well, the light comes on when I play EX discs.
>
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Not the ones that do not have the flag....................

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> >> >> No receiver will choose EX automatically if the DVD isnt flagged
> >> >> correctly....
> >> >
> >> > On the contrary, almost every 6.1 receiver has a mode that will allow
> > you
> >> > to permanently engage EX decoding. There are many 5.1 discs that
matrix
> >> > well into a surround rear channel when you turn on EX, even if they
> >> > weren't specifically mixed for it.
> >> ==============================================
> >> Which is why he used the word "automatically".
> >>
> >
> > Which is now why I use the word exactly...to me "detect" means leaving
> > your
> > reciever in auto mode, not manually putting it into EX mode...Personally
I
> > always use auto and select EX only when appropriate (mis-flagged
disks)for
> > sound the way it was intended to be heard.
> >
> =======================================
> Just curious.......HOW do you detect a mis-flagged disc?
> (hint - you can't)
> Are you also aware that most EX discs are not even noted on the box or the
> menu?
>
> That is why I leave mine in 7.1 mode all the time.
>
OK, how do you know when a disk is supposed to be EX then? I prefer not to
use EX on non-EX disks, but you can do whatever you want. I want it the way
it was intended, not some bastardized version. This is the first I've heard
about this issue you claim to know about regarding EX disks that arent
marked in any way, shape, or form. Got any URL's with documentation?

I've noticed on the Dolby site (you can get a list of movies encoded with ex
there) some movies I have are listed as having it (Sky Captain World of
Tomorrow being one example), but their is no mention of ex on the dvd case
or menu. Hence I've wondered about that also.

Jim

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>> >> >> No receiver will choose EX automatically if the DVD isnt flagged
>> >> >> correctly....
>> >> >
>> >> > On the contrary, almost every 6.1 receiver has a mode that will
>> >> > allow
>> > you
>> >> > to permanently engage EX decoding. There are many 5.1 discs that
> matrix
>> >> > well into a surround rear channel when you turn on EX, even if they
>> >> > weren't specifically mixed for it.
>> >> ==============================================
>> >> Which is why he used the word "automatically".
>> >>
>> >
>> > Which is now why I use the word exactly...to me "detect" means leaving
>> > your
>> > reciever in auto mode, not manually putting it into EX
>> > mode...Personally
> I
>> > always use auto and select EX only when appropriate (mis-flagged
> disks)for
>> > sound the way it was intended to be heard.
>> >
>> =======================================
>> Just curious.......HOW do you detect a mis-flagged disc?
>> (hint - you can't)
>> Are you also aware that most EX discs are not even noted on the box or
>> the
>> menu?
>>
>> That is why I leave mine in 7.1 mode all the time.
>>
> OK, how do you know when a disk is supposed to be EX then? I prefer not
> to
> use EX on non-EX disks, but you can do whatever you want. I want it the
> way
> it was intended, not some bastardized version. This is the first I've
> heard
> about this issue you claim to know about regarding EX disks that arent
> marked in any way, shape, or form. Got any URL's with documentation?
>
>
>
>

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"Biz" <> wrote in message
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>> Just curious.......HOW do you detect a mis-flagged disc?
>> (hint - you can't)
>> Are you also aware that most EX discs are not even noted on the box or
>> the
>> menu?
>>
>> That is why I leave mine in 7.1 mode all the time.
>>
> OK, how do you know when a disk is supposed to be EX then? I prefer not
> to
> use EX on non-EX disks, but you can do whatever you want. I want it the
> way
> it was intended, not some bastardized version. This is the first I've
> heard
> about this issue you claim to know about regarding EX disks that arent
> marked in any way, shape, or form. Got any URL's with documentation?
>
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Here is one good site:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/P...urroundex.html
http://www.dvdreview.com/movies/html%5Cthxex_list.html
http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/surroundex/index.html

From what I have found, the MAJORITY of EX discs are either not flagged
or not noted on the package.

Leaving the system in EX at all times seems to cause no problems.
When the disc is not EX, there is NOTHING in the rear channels on my system.
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