Well, Shout Factory goofed up Punky Brewster again (season 2)

okay. I can complain now. Even though the box doesn't mention the sound
format,
on the back of the box it says "The Complete Second Season".

and to me, it's not the "complete" season on the dvd since season 2 was
in stereo and all episodes on the season 2 are mono except one.

To me, this means I am getting only part of the show on dvd instead of
the "complete" show on dvd as adverised.

mono copies of stereo shows cancel out some naturally heard out-of-phase
sounds that you hear in the stereo version.

therefore, mono opies of stereoshows are not complete, in my opinion.

and that might even explain the few instances of certain hard to hear
stuff in a few places of the episodes on the dvd set.

Normally I would say this is false advertising, however after examining
the episodes on the dvd's closely, I belive it was an honest
unintentional goof-up by the company.

I guess I should be glad that we got at least one season 2 episode in
it's original
stereo format on the dvd set.

Although I would of course, have preferred all of the season 2 episodes
to have been in their original stereo format instead of just the one
episode.

I'm pretty sure all of the season 2 episodes were made and broadcast in
stereo.

Unfortunately, they're not that way on the dvd set except for "Urban
Fear"

And watching "Urban Fear" on the dvd surprised me since it turrns out
that Punky Brewster actually had good stereo sound on it. (for the tme
it was made. It's only meant to be 2 channel stereo as far as I know)
Channel separation was very evident. I could easily hear the stereo in
the theme song, the incidental music, and the laugh track.

Oh, only if they had released every season 2 episode in it's original
stereo sound on the dvd instead of using mono copies of every episode on
the dvd (except for the one mentioned above), how great the episodes on
the dvd would have sounded.

As Doctor Smith of "Lost in Space" would have aid "Oh, the pain, the
pain".

If you have the dvd set and a stereo amp or surround sound amp, you can
check for yourself how great the set could have and would have sounded
if they had used the correct stereo copies instead of using the mono
copies of stereo episodes by checking out and watching the one and only
season 2 episode that they somehow miracously managed to use the correct
copy of:

"Punky Brewster: Urban Fear"

However, all in all, I did enjoy the episodes and the dvd set. But it
could have been better by simply using the original stereo copies
instead of the mono copies they used of episodes that were originally in
stereo.

Well, on the bright side, we at least got one episode in it's original
stereo format on the dvd. It's unlikely that it would be that way in the
syndicated reruns on tv since most of the syndicated reruns I've seen on
tv of early stereo tv shows were all mono copies in the syndicated
reruns, on the stereo tv stations.

Later stereo tv shows stayed in stereo on the syndicated reruns on
stereo tv stations.

All of NBC's prime time lineup (with the exception of 1 or 2 shows) went
to being in stereo as soon as the fall 1985 season started (the 1985 to
1986 tv season).

Punky Brewster was one of the shows that went to stereo then.

CBS's prime-time lineup went in stereo in the fall of 1988 (the 1988 to
1989 tv season).

Most of ABC's prime-time lineup went in stereo in the fall of 1989 (the
1989 to 1990 tv season) although ABC also had shows that changed
somewhere between 1985 and 1990 and some that were stereo from the start
in between those years).
so I could say ABC's conversion to stereo was a more gradual process.

The ABC exceptions to this for scripted prime-time entertainment was
"Growing Pains" and "Just the Ten o US" which both remained in mono
until the end of their runs.

I liked when oe of the episodes of Growing Pains said "in mono where
available" on the screen.

But there's another certain one-episode opening credits of Growing Pains
that I liked even better.

I don't quite remember when the FOX network shows went to stereo, or if
that was almost all at once like NBC and CBS or if it was gradual like
ABC, or if it was stereo from the beginning or not.

But the fact is, season 2 of Punky Brewster should be in stereo.

And I'm pretty sure that that was the first season of Punky Brewster
produced in stereo.

I'm pretty sure season 1 of "Punky Brewster was produced in mono and
season 2 produced and aired in stereo.

So, mono sound is okay on the season 1 set to me, and preferrable since
that was the original season 1 format.

but the original stereo sound is preferrable to me on the season 2 set
since that was the original season 2 format.

Although none of them do, all of the episodes on the season 2 set should
sound like

"Punky Brewster: Urban Fear" does on the dvd set.

and unfortunately, none of them do.

However, after saying that,

all in all, I still enjoyed the set and enjoyed the episodes on the
season 2 set very much.

dvdguy2@webtv.net

wrote:
> okay. I can complain now. Even though the box doesn't mention the sound
> format,
> on the back of the box it says "The Complete Second Season".

much snippage

>
> all in all, I still enjoyed the set and enjoyed the episodes on the
> season 2 set very much.
>

For some reason I dozed off whilst reading your post. Can you tell me
whether Season 2 was in stereo or mono?

--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus

Oldus Fartus

In article <24723-420C5C69->,
says...

> [snip]

Is there a particular reason you double-posted this?

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Ubiquitous

In article <24723-420C5C69->,
says...

> [snip]

Is there a particular reason you double-posted this?

--
ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.

Ubiquitous

wrote:

> okay. I can complain now. Even though the box doesn't mention the sound
> format,
> on the back of the box it says "The Complete Second Season".
>
> and to me, it's not the "complete" season on the dvd since season 2 was
> in stereo and all episodes on the season 2 are mono except one.
>
> To me, this means I am getting only part of the show on dvd instead of
> the "complete" show on dvd as adverised.
>
> mono copies of stereo shows cancel out some naturally heard out-of-phase
> sounds that you hear in the stereo version.
>
> therefore, mono opies of stereoshows are not complete, in my opinion.

You're technically splitting hairs there. :-p

>
> and that might even explain the few instances of certain hard to hear
> stuff in a few places of the episodes on the dvd set.
>
> Normally I would say this is false advertising, however after examining
> the episodes on the dvd's closely, I belive it was an honest
> unintentional goof-up by the company.
>
> I guess I should be glad that we got at least one season 2 episode in
> it's original
> stereo format on the dvd set.
>
> Although I would of course, have preferred all of the season 2 episodes
> to have been in their original stereo format instead of just the one
> episode.
>
> I'm pretty sure all of the season 2 episodes were made and broadcast in
> stereo.
>
> Unfortunately, they're not that way on the dvd set except for "Urban
> Fear"
>
> And watching "Urban Fear" on the dvd surprised me since it turrns out
> that Punky Brewster actually had good stereo sound on it. (for the tme
> it was made. It's only meant to be 2 channel stereo as far as I know)
> Channel separation was very evident. I could easily hear the stereo in
> the theme song, the incidental music, and the laugh track.
>
> Oh, only if they had released every season 2 episode in it's original
> stereo sound on the dvd instead of using mono copies of every episode on
> the dvd (except for the one mentioned above), how great the episodes on
> the dvd would have sounded.
>
> As Doctor Smith of "Lost in Space" would have aid "Oh, the pain, the
> pain".
>
> If you have the dvd set and a stereo amp or surround sound amp, you can
> check for yourself how great the set could have and would have sounded
> if they had used the correct stereo copies instead of using the mono
> copies of stereo episodes by checking out and watching the one and only
> season 2 episode that they somehow miracously managed to use the correct
> copy of:
>
> "Punky Brewster: Urban Fear"
>
> However, all in all, I did enjoy the episodes and the dvd set. But it
> could have been better by simply using the original stereo copies
> instead of the mono copies they used of episodes that were originally in
> stereo.
>
> Well, on the bright side, we at least got one episode in it's original
> stereo format on the dvd. It's unlikely that it would be that way in the
> syndicated reruns on tv since most of the syndicated reruns I've seen on
> tv of early stereo tv shows were all mono copies in the syndicated
> reruns, on the stereo tv stations.
>
> Later stereo tv shows stayed in stereo on the syndicated reruns on
> stereo tv stations.
>
> All of NBC's prime time lineup (with the exception of 1 or 2 shows) went
> to being in stereo as soon as the fall 1985 season started (the 1985 to
> 1986 tv season).
>
> Punky Brewster was one of the shows that went to stereo then.
>
> CBS's prime-time lineup went in stereo in the fall of 1988 (the 1988 to
> 1989 tv season).
>
> Most of ABC's prime-time lineup went in stereo in the fall of 1989 (the
> 1989 to 1990 tv season) although ABC also had shows that changed
> somewhere between 1985 and 1990 and some that were stereo from the start
> in between those years).
> so I could say ABC's conversion to stereo was a more gradual process.
>
> The ABC exceptions to this for scripted prime-time entertainment was
> "Growing Pains" and "Just the Ten o US" which both remained in mono
> until the end of their runs.
>
> I liked when oe of the episodes of Growing Pains said "in mono where
> available" on the screen.
>
> But there's another certain one-episode opening credits of Growing Pains
> that I liked even better.
>
> I don't quite remember when the FOX network shows went to stereo, or if
> that was almost all at once like NBC and CBS or if it was gradual like
> ABC, or if it was stereo from the beginning or not.
>
> But the fact is, season 2 of Punky Brewster should be in stereo.
>
> And I'm pretty sure that that was the first season of Punky Brewster
> produced in stereo.
>
> I'm pretty sure season 1 of "Punky Brewster was produced in mono and
> season 2 produced and aired in stereo.
>
> So, mono sound is okay on the season 1 set to me, and preferrable since
> that was the original season 1 format.
>
> but the original stereo sound is preferrable to me on the season 2 set
> since that was the original season 2 format.
>
> Although none of them do, all of the episodes on the season 2 set should
> sound like
>
> "Punky Brewster: Urban Fear" does on the dvd set.
>
> and unfortunately, none of them do.
>
> However, after saying that,
>
> all in all, I still enjoyed the set and enjoyed the episodes on the
> season 2 set very much.
>
>

Taylor Pratt

I was going to reply to this poster with a pretty good explanation and
answer to his gripe but once I realized who the poster was I changed my
mind.

Joe Phillips