Weird DVD damage

Hi everybody

I recently took one of my DVD's out from my collection to watch it.
Unfortunately, I noticed that it wasn't playing, the disk kept skipping
for no apparent reason. All became clear however when I removed the disk
from the tray and examined the underside. The disk has been totally
destroyed, I don't know how this could of happened. Since I treat my disks
with kitten-gloves, it must of happened in a drive, but I've never heard
of this kind of thing occurring. I went through all the other disks I
could find, but only one other disk was affected, from the same collection
as well. A picture of the CD is available at
http://www.colinjones.co.uk/images/dvd-damage.jpg.

I've listed some more additional facts below which may be useful for
determining the problem.

* The DVDs in question are always stored in their original cases, and are
not just left lying on the floor, or in a tray full of coins

* They worked perfectly when I first had them and the last time they were
used. This is something I just noticed when I went to watch one of them.

* No other disks in my collection appear to be affected. The two affected
are from the same collection.

* I've heard it may be DVD-Rot, but I have yet to see a picture on-line of
the effect which looks similar to the effect I experienced. Interestingly
though, the effect on the top side of the DVD looks similar to some of the
data-sides shown on the Internet.

* It's possible a DVD defect may of scratched it like this I suppose, but
wouldn't it cause a very loud and noticeable noise that would obviously
indicate something was wrong? I haven't experienced anything like that.
It's possible somebody could of borrowed it in my house when it happened,
but again, they would of informed me if anything strange had happened.

I'm at a lost to explain what might of happened here. Does anybody have
any idea what may of caused it?

Thanks

Pan

Pan

"Pan" <> wrote in message
news.. .
> Hi everybody
>
> I recently took one of my DVD's out from my collection to watch it.
> Unfortunately, I noticed that it wasn't playing, the disk kept skipping
> for no apparent reason. All became clear however when I removed the disk
> from the tray and examined the underside. The disk has been totally
> destroyed, I don't know how this could of happened. Since I treat my disks
> with kitten-gloves, it must of happened in a drive, but I've never heard
> of this kind of thing occurring. I went through all the other disks I
> could find, but only one other disk was affected, from the same collection
> as well. A picture of the CD is available at
> http://www.colinjones.co.uk/images/dvd-damage.jpg.


Crop circles on DVDs. Now I've seen it all!

That's just messed up.

T.
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Tony soprano

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:23:43 -0500, Tony soprano <> wrote:

>"Pan" <> wrote in message
>news. ..
>> Hi everybody
>>
>> I recently took one of my DVD's out from my collection to watch it.
>> Unfortunately, I noticed that it wasn't playing, the disk kept skipping
>> for no apparent reason. All became clear however when I removed the disk
>> from the tray and examined the underside. The disk has been totally
>> destroyed, I don't know how this could of happened. Since I treat my disks
>> with kitten-gloves, it must of happened in a drive, but I've never heard
>> of this kind of thing occurring. I went through all the other disks I
>> could find, but only one other disk was affected, from the same collection
>> as well. A picture of the CD is available at
>> http://www.colinjones.co.uk/images/dvd-damage.jpg.


>Crop circles on DVDs. Now I've seen it all!

>That's just messed up.

Looks like the dvd was ejected/inserted improperly and the the spindle that
supposed to grab the dvd in the middle skipped along the middle of the DVD.

TCS

TCS wrote:

> Looks like the dvd was ejected/inserted improperly and the the
spindle that
> supposed to grab the dvd in the middle skipped along the middle of
the DVD.

Looks that way to me, too. They're clearly spindle marks. I saw a CD
once with similar marks (sans the "bites" on the edges) incurred in a
CD changer.

RichC

Rich Clark

On 3 Feb 2005 08:45:19 -0800, Rich Clark <> wrote:

>TCS wrote:

>> Looks like the dvd was ejected/inserted improperly and the the
>spindle that
>> supposed to grab the dvd in the middle skipped along the middle of
>the DVD.

>Looks that way to me, too. They're clearly spindle marks. I saw a CD
>once with similar marks (sans the "bites" on the edges) incurred in a
>CD changer.

Usually when there are such marks, there are also marks from the disk
getting caught in the door as it closes.

The OP's disk probably got those marks from the spindle not unchucking
fully before the disk was ejected. Sometimes I've seen a disk still
spinning on the tray as it got ejected.

TCS

This looks like spindle damage to me as well. Look at teh damage around the
center hub as well. Was that recordable media or commercial media? It
looks like it was improperly loaded into a changer, not the media's fault at
all..
"Pan" <> wrote in message
news.. .
> Hi everybody
>
> I recently took one of my DVD's out from my collection to watch it.
> Unfortunately, I noticed that it wasn't playing, the disk kept skipping
> for no apparent reason. All became clear however when I removed the disk
> from the tray and examined the underside. The disk has been totally
> destroyed, I don't know how this could of happened. Since I treat my disks
> with kitten-gloves, it must of happened in a drive, but I've never heard
> of this kind of thing occurring. I went through all the other disks I
> could find, but only one other disk was affected, from the same collection
> as well. A picture of the CD is available at
> http://www.colinjones.co.uk/images/dvd-damage.jpg.
>
> I've listed some more additional facts below which may be useful for
> determining the problem.
>
> * The DVDs in question are always stored in their original cases, and are
> not just left lying on the floor, or in a tray full of coins
>
> * They worked perfectly when I first had them and the last time they were
> used. This is something I just noticed when I went to watch one of them.
>
> * No other disks in my collection appear to be affected. The two affected
> are from the same collection.
>
> * I've heard it may be DVD-Rot, but I have yet to see a picture on-line of
> the effect which looks similar to the effect I experienced. Interestingly
> though, the effect on the top side of the DVD looks similar to some of the
> data-sides shown on the Internet.
>
> * It's possible a DVD defect may of scratched it like this I suppose, but
> wouldn't it cause a very loud and noticeable noise that would obviously
> indicate something was wrong? I haven't experienced anything like that.
> It's possible somebody could of borrowed it in my house when it happened,
> but again, they would of informed me if anything strange had happened.
>
> I'm at a lost to explain what might of happened here. Does anybody have
> any idea what may of caused it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pan

Biz

Hi Pan,

> ... The disk has been totally destroyed, I don't know how this
> could of happened. Since I treat my disks with kitten-gloves, it
> must of happened in a drive, but I've never heard of this kind of
> thing occurring. I went through all the other disks I could find,
> but only one other disk was affected, from the same collection
> as well.

let me guess - it's the Lethal Weapon collection you're referring to ?
Or at least another fine product from Warner Home Video ?

> * No other disks in my collection appear to be affected. The two affected
> are from the same collection.

Warner used some weird materials to produce parts of this DVD set.

> I'm at a lost to explain what might of happened here. Does anybody have
> any idea what may of caused it?

A weird solvent has been used in either the bond between the layers of the
DVDs or the printing inks used for the packaging. Over a long period of time
this solvent accumulates on the disc surface in strange patterns.
So don't worry about your DVD drives, they're perfectly fine.

Sounds crazy ?
Take a mild (!) soap-based detergent and even more water and cleanse the
discs with a soft moist cloth.

Cheers,
Tim

Tim

Tim wrote on [Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:02:51 +0100]:
> Hi Pan,
>
>> ... The disk has been totally destroyed, I don't know how this
>> could of happened. Since I treat my disks with kitten-gloves, it
>> must of happened in a drive, but I've never heard of this kind of
>> thing occurring. I went through all the other disks I could find,
>> but only one other disk was affected, from the same collection
>> as well.
>
> let me guess - it's the Lethal Weapon collection you're referring to ?
> Or at least another fine product from Warner Home Video ?

did you look at the picture?

Justin

Ah yes, the old circle-us-disc-us syndrome,

pop it in the dishwasher and itll be fine...

(Obviously Ive no idea and am joking about dish washer)

Steven


"Justin" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Tim wrote on [Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:02:51 +0100]:
> > Hi Pan,
> >
> >> ... The disk has been totally destroyed, I don't know how this
> >> could of happened. Since I treat my disks with kitten-gloves, it
> >> must of happened in a drive, but I've never heard of this kind of
> >> thing occurring. I went through all the other disks I could find,
> >> but only one other disk was affected, from the same collection
> >> as well.
> >
> > let me guess - it's the Lethal Weapon collection you're referring to ?
> > Or at least another fine product from Warner Home Video ?
>
> did you look at the picture?
>

B@ndit

Pan <> wrote in
news:


> available at http://www.colinjones.co.uk/images/dvd-damage.jpg.

That picture is gonna give me nightmares.

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