DVD labels safe?

I've heard it's unsafe to affix a sticker label (such
as the Memorex CD/DVD labels that you'll typically find
at KMart) to a DVD. The argument goes that the DVD grooves
are finer than a CD, and that heat generated while playing
can cause enough warping of the label to corrupt the DVD
data.

I'd like to hear opinions out there on this matter. Have
any of you affixed labels naively (like I did) on your
initially blank DVDs and had them survive alright for a
good period of time, a couple of years, say? Is a DVD
label certain to corrupt the DVD eventually, or is this
just speculation at this point?

Also, some blank DVD media come with a matte already. Would
it be safe to affix a DVD label over this matte? Or at
least "safer?"

Thanks,
Harry

ccr1633@yahoo.com

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> I've heard it's unsafe to affix a sticker label (such
> as the Memorex CD/DVD labels that you'll typically find
> at KMart) to a DVD. The argument goes that the DVD grooves
> are finer than a CD, and that heat generated while playing
> can cause enough warping of the label to corrupt the DVD
> data.
>
> I'd like to hear opinions out there on this matter. Have
> any of you affixed labels naively (like I did) on your
> initially blank DVDs and had them survive alright for a
> good period of time, a couple of years, say? Is a DVD
> label certain to corrupt the DVD eventually, or is this
> just speculation at this point?
>
> Also, some blank DVD media come with a matte already. Would
> it be safe to affix a DVD label over this matte? Or at
> least "safer?"
>
> Thanks,
> Harry


Hi harry i have had both xbox and dvd films with labels and found they
wouldnt play at all, i have now got printables and theyt look better and
play perfect, no noise as they spin, if i was you go for the epson r200
and buy printable disk, i done it and now i dont look back

dave

Dragon

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:29:07 +0000, Dragon wrote:>
>
> Hi harry i have had both xbox and dvd films with labels and found they
> wouldnt play at all, i have now got printables and theyt look better and
> play perfect, no noise as they spin, if i was you go for the epson r200
> and buy printable disk, i done it and now i dont look back
>
> dave

I have an Epson R200 and love it for both DVDs and CDs. Gives a super,
professional looking result.

Only drawbacks I've found:
1. Wish printing was a bit faster.
2. Wish the ink dried "hard" faster.
3. Printable disks (especially CD) are hard to find locally.
4. Wish the ink were waterproof when dry.





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mercutio

Dragon wrote:
> Hi harry i have had both xbox and dvd films with labels and found
they
> wouldnt play at all, i have now got printables and theyt look better
and
> play perfect, no noise as they spin, if i was you go for the epson
r200
> and buy printable disk, i done it and now i dont look back
>
> dave


Thanks Dave. I may well try your suggestion of getting the epson r200.
However, could you recommend me good, reliable printable DVD media
that are reasonably priced?

Also, I did a bit of reasearch on this issue and have found a wide
variety of accounts about the effect of applying DVD labels.
Predictably,
some people cite no problems, and some actually claim that they can
burn a DVD and play it fine before applying a label, and then after
affixing a label the DVD begins skipping immediately! I find this
hard to believe, unless the people who cite this calamity have DVD
players that run super hot.

Me, I have had NO problems with any of my labeled (using the
Memorex KMart kit) DVDs..but this is only after a month's time.
It might be because I am using blank media from a reputable company
(Philips 4x DVD+R), and perhaps they have an extra layer of protection
or
something. The consensus seems to be that, over time and applied
heat, the label glue can seep through and corrupt the DVD.
Technical assistance from Memorex told me this when I asked. However,
I'm still skeptical. My intuition is that this is all a function
of the particular DVD media, the particular labels, and the DVD
player being used. I'd wager that with the right combination the
labels would cause no problem at all.

Also, the company Fellowes purports to have created labels that
they've tested for this very problem, and they cause no data loss.
I guess that these labels would be the way to go for those inclined
since they address the issue explicitly, unlike the slipshod Memorex,
who loudly label their labeling kits as appropriate for CD/DVD media.
In the fine print they mention that their labels are NOT safe for
DVDs, unless you label the small center area only. What a joke.
It's a cheap, lowdown dirty company that buries something like that
in the fine print.

A good thread on videohelp.com is available at
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewt...ghlight=labels


It'd be great if others here shared their experiences. I like to
label my DVDs with some description of the data I'm backing up.
I'm just that kinda guy. It seems absurd that such a fancy digital
medium would be unlabelable without a printer!

Harry

ccr1633@yahoo.com

Labels are a big NO NO! They cause the disc to become unbalanced and wobble
in the player which is why most players won't even play them.


<> wrote in message
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>
> I've heard it's unsafe to affix a sticker label (such
> as the Memorex CD/DVD labels that you'll typically find
> at KMart) to a DVD. The argument goes that the DVD grooves
> are finer than a CD, and that heat generated while playing
> can cause enough warping of the label to corrupt the DVD
> data.
>
> I'd like to hear opinions out there on this matter. Have
> any of you affixed labels naively (like I did) on your
> initially blank DVDs and had them survive alright for a
> good period of time, a couple of years, say? Is a DVD
> label certain to corrupt the DVD eventually, or is this
> just speculation at this point?
>
> Also, some blank DVD media come with a matte already. Would
> it be safe to affix a DVD label over this matte? Or at
> least "safer?"
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>

Pug Fugley

<> wrote in message
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>
> I've heard it's unsafe to affix a sticker label (such
> as the Memorex CD/DVD labels that you'll typically find
> at KMart) to a DVD. The argument goes that the DVD grooves
> are finer than a CD, and that heat generated while playing
> can cause enough warping of the label to corrupt the DVD
> data.
>
> I'd like to hear opinions out there on this matter. Have
> any of you affixed labels naively (like I did) on your
> initially blank DVDs and had them survive alright for a
> good period of time, a couple of years, say? Is a DVD
> label certain to corrupt the DVD eventually, or is this
> just speculation at this point?
>
> Also, some blank DVD media come with a matte already. Would
> it be safe to affix a DVD label over this matte? Or at
> least "safer?"
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>

Hi Harry

I have used labels (Glossy and Matt) for years on both DVD and CD with no
problem. The one thing I have experienced though with CD's and they may get
stuck in the car players. Resolved only by turning up the heat and drive
around and when the car is hot they come out just. As far as DVD, I have has
no problem with them. However, I have been looking at a disc printer and
printable discs. I think this is a better and cheaper option than labels.

Nig

EnJay

I have looked up the Epson R200 and can't find one that prints discs only
paper. Can you post a link/site to check it out please.

Many thanks
Nig

"mercutio" <> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:29:07 +0000, Dragon wrote:>
> >
> > Hi harry i have had both xbox and dvd films with labels and found they
> > wouldnt play at all, i have now got printables and theyt look better and
> > play perfect, no noise as they spin, if i was you go for the epson
r200
> > and buy printable disk, i done it and now i dont look back
> >
> > dave
>
> I have an Epson R200 and love it for both DVDs and CDs. Gives a super,
> professional looking result.
>
> Only drawbacks I've found:
> 1. Wish printing was a bit faster.
> 2. Wish the ink dried "hard" faster.
> 3. Printable disks (especially CD) are hard to find locally.
> 4. Wish the ink were waterproof when dry.
>
>
>
>
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EnJay

In article <croch9$5re$>, says...
> I have looked up the Epson R200 and can't find one that prints discs only
> paper. Can you post a link/site to check it out please.
>
> Many thanks
> Nig
>
> "mercutio" <> wrote in message
> news.. .
> > On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:29:07 +0000, Dragon wrote:>
> > >
> > > Hi harry i have had both xbox and dvd films with labels and found they
> > > wouldnt play at all, i have now got printables and theyt look better and
> > > play perfect, no noise as they spin, if i was you go for the epson
> r200
> > > and buy printable disk, i done it and now i dont look back
> > >
> > > dave
> >
> > I have an Epson R200 and love it for both DVDs and CDs. Gives a super,
> > professional looking result.
> >
> > Only drawbacks I've found:
> > 1. Wish printing was a bit faster.
> > 2. Wish the ink dried "hard" faster.
> > 3. Printable disks (especially CD) are hard to find locally.
> > 4. Wish the ink were waterproof when dry.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Epson R200 (as sold in the USA at Staples, OfficeMax ect) comes equiped to
print on printable cds and DvD disks.

I have not seen it advertized as such, but I bought one for proof printing
and it came with a disk holder and a blank disk.


--
Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.

Larry

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:49:10 GMT, "Pug Fugley" <> wrote:

>Labels are a big NO NO! They cause the disc to become unbalanced and wobble
>in the player which is why most players won't even play them.
>
>

My experience supports this. The first movie I burned played
perfectly. I put a label on and it skipped. I spent about an hour
carefully peeling the label off and it played perfectly again. I have
not used labels on DVDs since. (close to two years and hundreds of
DVDs)

I used the "CD Stomper" aplicator

You want a label on you DVD, use a sharpie.

Another nobody

"EnJay" <> wrote in message
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> I have looked up the Epson R200 and can't find one that prints discs only
> paper. Can you post a link/site to check it out please.

ANY Epson R200 prints on discs..that's what it's made for.

Pug Fugley