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Pioneer 108 is supposed to be up there but for every format ie DVD Ram as
well LG 4160 is the one. Both can be had for under $150.
"Rick" <> wrote in message
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> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews
on
> DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
> Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range (under
> $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
> terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
> various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
supposed
> to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
> Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>
>
>

"POD {Ò¿Ó}" <> wrote in message
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> The phone rang while Rick was doing the ironing, resulting in the 3rd
> degree burn on their ear, visible for all in uk.media.dvd to guffaw
> over.
>
>> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable
>> reviews on DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is
>> that brands like Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at
>> their price range (under $150). I have also heard about things like
>> "bit-setting" and other such terminologies which apparently improve
>> the way that a DVD is burnt.
>>
>> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with
>> the various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
>> supposed to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R
>> or -R)? Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Pioneer 108 or NEC 3500...nuff said
>
> --
> Another fine post from the semantically cute.....
>
> POD

I went for the NEC 3500 over the Pioneer 108, as it is significantly faster.
I can burn 8x Sony dvd-r at 16x, which means a full dvd in ~ 5.40 mins.
However, the NEC 3520 is now out, but I have no experience of it.

If you want/need dvd-ram, the LG 4163 is now out. I have the LG 4120 and it
works fine. Not much point in getting the LG 4160, unless the price is low.
--
Doug Ramage

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I've had my Plextor PX-712A about two weeks and have been great luck with
compatability using DVD-r & DVD+r with my Sony Console DVD Player.
The copies also work on the cheap cyberhome DVD players.
Check out "DVDShrink.ORG"


"Rick" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews
> on DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands
> like Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range
> (under $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other
> such terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
> various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
> supposed to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R
> or -R)? Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>
>
>

Doug Ramage wrote:
> "POD {Ò¿Ó}" <> wrote in message
> news:Xns95C655325FDB3WeAllLovePOD@212.159.2.87...
>
>>The phone rang while Rick was doing the ironing, resulting in the 3rd
>>degree burn on their ear, visible for all in uk.media.dvd to guffaw
>>over.
>>
>>
>>>I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable
>>>reviews on DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is
>>>that brands like Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at
>>>their price range (under $150). I have also heard about things like
>>>"bit-setting" and other such terminologies which apparently improve
>>>the way that a DVD is burnt.
>>>
>>>I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with
>>>the various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
>>>supposed to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R
>>>or -R)? Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Pioneer 108 or NEC 3500...nuff said
>>
>>--
>>Another fine post from the semantically cute.....
>>
>>POD
>
>
> I went for the NEC 3500 over the Pioneer 108, as it is significantly faster.
> I can burn 8x Sony dvd-r at 16x, which means a full dvd in ~ 5.40 mins.
> However, the NEC 3520 is now out, but I have no experience of it.
>
> If you want/need dvd-ram, the LG 4163 is now out. I have the LG 4120 and it
> works fine. Not much point in getting the LG 4160, unless the price is low.


I added a NEC 3500 as well. It's working well. Got it plus a 50-pack of
Fuji DVD-R for $50 (after rebates) at PCConnection a couple of weeks ago.


Joe

Dave wrote on [Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:13:22 -0000]:
>
> "Donald Link" <> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:49:46 GMT, "Rick" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable
> reviews on
>> >DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
>> >Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range
> (under
>> >$150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
>> >terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>> >
>> >I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with
> the
>> >various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
> supposed
>> >to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
>> >Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Do not rule out Memorex. Have found them to be very reliable and no
>> trouble in using DVD shrink like some of the brands.
>
> Crap drives for burn reliabilty with cmc dyes and other budget media

"budget" media is another term for "only use if you don't care if it
works"?

>
>I went for the NEC 3500 over the Pioneer 108, as it is significantly faster.
>I can burn 8x Sony dvd-r at 16x, which means a full dvd in ~ 5.40 mins.
>However, the NEC 3520 is now out, but I have no experience of it.
>
>If you want/need dvd-ram, the LG 4163 is now out. I have the LG 4120 and it
>works fine. Not much point in getting the LG 4160, unless the price is low.

Does the LG-4160 handle DVD-RAM in the cartridge?, thanks

Pioneer 108 sells for around $80, can't beat.

But no DVD burner will help you bypass copy protection.


"Rick" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews
on
> DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
> Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range (under
> $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
> terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
> various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
supposed
> to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
> Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>
>
>

"Pug Fugley" <> wrote in message
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> Pioneer 108 sells for around $80, can't beat.
>
> But no DVD burner will help you bypass copy protection.

Well then, how about a normal CD writer to bypass game copy protection?

btw, thanks for all your inputs ... it has made the task of eliminating many
brands a lot easier. I am down to getting either the latest LG or Pioneer
DVD burner atm.

btw, are the DVD-RAM discs actually available in Australia (Adelaide)? I
can't say I've seen them around, but then I haven't been looking hard for
them either - are they in ready supply, as I'm sure to use them on occasion
(I think).

"Rick" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Pug Fugley" <> wrote in message
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>> Pioneer 108 sells for around $80, can't beat.
>>
>> But no DVD burner will help you bypass copy protection.
>
> Well then, how about a normal CD writer to bypass game copy protection?
>
> btw, thanks for all your inputs ... it has made the task of eliminating
> many brands a lot easier. I am down to getting either the latest LG or
> Pioneer DVD burner atm.
>
> btw, are the DVD-RAM discs actually available in Australia (Adelaide)? I
> can't say I've seen them around, but then I haven't been looking hard for
> them either - are they in ready supply, as I'm sure to use them on
> occasion (I think).
>
>
>

DVD-RAM discs should be available in Australia. Panasonic sell them on their
website, here in the UK. Have you tried their Australian website?

I don't think the Pioneer 109 is out yet, and the 108 is the previous
generation.
--
Doug Ramage

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"Doug Ramage" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Rick" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> >
> > "Pug Fugley" <> wrote in message
> > news:vYWxd.5923$ ink.net...
> >> Pioneer 108 sells for around $80, can't beat.
> >>
> >> But no DVD burner will help you bypass copy protection.
> >
> > Well then, how about a normal CD writer to bypass game copy protection?
> >
> > btw, thanks for all your inputs ... it has made the task of eliminating
> > many brands a lot easier. I am down to getting either the latest LG or
> > Pioneer DVD burner atm.
> >
> > btw, are the DVD-RAM discs actually available in Australia (Adelaide)?
I
> > can't say I've seen them around, but then I haven't been looking hard
for
> > them either - are they in ready supply, as I'm sure to use them on
> > occasion (I think).
> >
> >
> >
>
> DVD-RAM discs should be available in Australia. Panasonic sell them on
their
> website, here in the UK. Have you tried their Australian website?
>
> I don't think the Pioneer 109 is out yet, and the 108 is the previous
> generation.

If the 109, which I assume is the 108's replacement is not out yet, how is
the 108 the previous generation?