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....the John Kerry documentary, on our portable DVD player. It's a powerful
piece of work and I wish everyone could see this film before the election.
One of the most shocking scenes is of the secret Nixon tapes, which show how
he and his advisors secretly plot to create a phony group called Vietnam
Veterans for a Just Peace to counteract John Kerry and his Vietnam Veterans
Against the War. The film lets you listen to Nixon and hear how determined
he is to crush Kerry, putting up another veteran who has offered to head
this phony pro-war veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to hear
Nixon discuss how they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to
battle Kerry with their lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling. O'
Neill, of course, is the ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for Truth
and the author of Unfit for Command. How could this exact scenario be
repeating itself? Go see this film if you can. You will be proud casting
your vote for a man who stood up when it was not the popular thing to do.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/blog/

This does not belong in this newsgroup. Cross-posting this tripe is not
encouraged. BTW, you don't really believe any thing Michael Moore espouses
do you? P.T. Barnum was right when he said there is a fool born every
minute.

"jasmine" <> wrote in message
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> ...the John Kerry documentary, on our portable DVD player. It's a powerful
> piece of work and I wish everyone could see this film before the election.
> One of the most shocking scenes is of the secret Nixon tapes, which show
> how
> he and his advisors secretly plot to create a phony group called Vietnam
> Veterans for a Just Peace to counteract John Kerry and his Vietnam
> Veterans
> Against the War. The film lets you listen to Nixon and hear how determined
> he is to crush Kerry, putting up another veteran who has offered to head
> this phony pro-war veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to
> hear
> Nixon discuss how they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to
> battle Kerry with their lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling. O'
> Neill, of course, is the ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for
> Truth
> and the author of Unfit for Command. How could this exact scenario be
> repeating itself? Go see this film if you can. You will be proud casting
> your vote for a man who stood up when it was not the popular thing to do.
> http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/blog/
>
>

You need to cut back on the Kool-Aid there Sparky.

jasmine wrote:
>
> ...the John Kerry documentary, on our portable DVD player. It's a powerful
> piece of work and I wish everyone could see this film before the election.
> One of the most shocking scenes is of the secret Nixon tapes, which show how
> he and his advisors secretly plot to create a phony group called Vietnam
> Veterans for a Just Peace to counteract John Kerry and his Vietnam Veterans
> Against the War. The film lets you listen to Nixon and hear how determined
> he is to crush Kerry, putting up another veteran who has offered to head
> this phony pro-war veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to hear
> Nixon discuss how they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to
> battle Kerry with their lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling. O'
> Neill, of course, is the ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for Truth
> and the author of Unfit for Command. How could this exact scenario be
> repeating itself? Go see this film if you can. You will be proud casting
> your vote for a man who stood up when it was not the popular thing to do.
> http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/blog/

If Michael Moore told you that you were impervious to cars, would you run out
into traffic? Please?

"3_D" <> wrote in message
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> This does not belong in this newsgroup. Cross-posting this tripe is not
> encouraged.

You may not agree, but the DVD that the post references is relevant to all
these groups (unless you are from Mars.)

BTW, you don't really believe any thing Michael Moore espouses
> do you?

Why? This is rhetorical, since you don't have a clue (other than the
incredible indoctrination campaign against Moore.)


P.T. Barnum was right when he said there is a fool born every
> minute.

Yeah right: "propaganda is to a democracy what force is to a totalitarian
society."

>
> "jasmine" <> wrote in message
> news:ckcvlf$7fq$...
> > ...the John Kerry documentary, on our portable DVD player. It's a
powerful
> > piece of work and I wish everyone could see this film before the
election.
> > One of the most shocking scenes is of the secret Nixon tapes, which show
> > how
> > he and his advisors secretly plot to create a phony group called Vietnam
> > Veterans for a Just Peace to counteract John Kerry and his Vietnam
> > Veterans
> > Against the War. The film lets you listen to Nixon and hear how
determined
> > he is to crush Kerry, putting up another veteran who has offered to head
> > this phony pro-war veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to
> > hear
> > Nixon discuss how they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to
> > battle Kerry with their lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling.
O'
> > Neill, of course, is the ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for
> > Truth
> > and the author of Unfit for Command. How could this exact scenario be
> > repeating itself? Go see this film if you can. You will be proud casting
> > your vote for a man who stood up when it was not the popular thing to
do.
> > http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/blog/
> >
> >
>
>

"Michael Rogers" <> wrote in message
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> You need to cut back on the Kool-Aid there Sparky.

Hey... snappy response Einstein!

Now try an intelligent response to this evidence posted.

No... forget it. you'll only make a fool of yourself again.


>
> jasmine wrote:
> >
> > ...the John Kerry documentary, on our portable DVD player. It's a
powerful
> > piece of work and I wish everyone could see this film before the
election.
> > One of the most shocking scenes is of the secret Nixon tapes, which show
how
> > he and his advisors secretly plot to create a phony group called Vietnam
> > Veterans for a Just Peace to counteract John Kerry and his Vietnam
Veterans
> > Against the War. The film lets you listen to Nixon and hear how
determined
> > he is to crush Kerry, putting up another veteran who has offered to head
> > this phony pro-war veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to
hear
> > Nixon discuss how they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to
> > battle Kerry with their lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling.
O'
> > Neill, of course, is the ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for
Truth
> > and the author of Unfit for Command. How could this exact scenario be
> > repeating itself? Go see this film if you can. You will be proud casting
> > your vote for a man who stood up when it was not the popular thing to
do.
> > http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/blog/

Good writing depends upon more than making a collection of statements worthy
of belief, because writing is intended to be read by others, with minds
different from your own. Your reader does not make the same mental
connections you make; he does not see the world exactly as you see it; he is
already flooded daily with thousands of statements demanding assent, yet
which he knows or believes to be false, confused, or deceptive. If your
writing is to get through to him--or even to be read and considered at
all--it must be interesting, clear, persuasive, and memorable, so that he
will pay attention to, understand, believe, and remember the ideas it
communicates. To fulfill these requirements successfully, your work must
have an appropriate and clear thesis, sufficient arguments and reasons
supporting the thesis, a logical and progressive arrangement, and,
importantly, an effective style if the facts are improbable. Never mind the
truth -- pursue probability through thick and thin in every kind of speech;
the whole secret of the art of speaking lies in consistent adherence to this
principle.

MM does not adhere to these basic rhetorical precepts. I have watched his
movies and the only "propaganda" being published are his own agenda.

>You will be proud casting your vote for a man who stood up when it was not
>the popular thing to
> do.

In actuality, he only "stood up" when it WAS the popular thing to do!



"jasmine" <> wrote in message
news:ckdhic$kcn$...
>
> "3_D" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> This does not belong in this newsgroup. Cross-posting this tripe is not
>> encouraged.
>
> You may not agree, but the DVD that the post references is relevant to all
> these groups (unless you are from Mars.)
>
> BTW, you don't really believe any thing Michael Moore espouses
>> do you?
>
> Why? This is rhetorical, since you don't have a clue (other than the
> incredible indoctrination campaign against Moore.)
>
>
> P.T. Barnum was right when he said there is a fool born every
>> minute.
>
> Yeah right: "propaganda is to a democracy what force is to a totalitarian
> society."
>
>>
>> "jasmine" <> wrote in message
>> news:ckcvlf$7fq$...
>> > ...the John Kerry documentary, on our portable DVD player. It's a
> powerful
>> > piece of work and I wish everyone could see this film before the
> election.
>> > One of the most shocking scenes is of the secret Nixon tapes, which
>> > show
>> > how
>> > he and his advisors secretly plot to create a phony group called
>> > Vietnam
>> > Veterans for a Just Peace to counteract John Kerry and his Vietnam
>> > Veterans
>> > Against the War. The film lets you listen to Nixon and hear how
> determined
>> > he is to crush Kerry, putting up another veteran who has offered to
>> > head
>> > this phony pro-war veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to
>> > hear
>> > Nixon discuss how they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to
>> > battle Kerry with their lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling.
> O'
>> > Neill, of course, is the ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for
>> > Truth
>> > and the author of Unfit for Command. How could this exact scenario be
>> > repeating itself? Go see this film if you can. You will be proud
>> > casting
>> > your vote for a man who stood up when it was not the popular thing to
> do.
>> > http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/blog/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

"Omarichu" <> wrote in message
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> If Michael Moore told you that you were impervious to cars, would you run
> out
> into traffic? Please?

If Moore asserts the President is a brain-dead asshole...then shows me
appropriate evidence, like say, a movie, I'll consider THAT. (oh, wait - he
did)!

But, I'd also (want to) believe the President if he refutes these
allegations with similarly appropriate evidence or tells me something honest
and truthful.

I'm still waiting.

"3_D" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Good writing depends upon more than making a collection of statements
worthy
> of belief, because writing is intended to be read by others, with minds
> different from your own. Your reader does not make the same mental
> connections you make;

I am sure you don't. I have learned that the earth is not flat from my early
youth. You still cling to this belief.

The main point of this post is that the DVD demostrates (with CREDIBLE
sources) the deceiptful history of BUSH's Swiftboat Veterans for Truth - and
it "lets you listen to Nixon and hear how determined he is to crush Kerry,
putting up another veteran who has offered to head this phony pro-war
veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to hear Nixon discuss how
they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to battle Kerry with their
lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling. O' Neill, of course, is the
ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and the author of Unfit
for Command. How could this exact scenario be
repeating itself?"

It is not a post about Moore, he has occasionally gotten a few facts
"wrong", albeit far less than most reporters. He is considered dangerous
enough to mount a sustained and quite criminal smear campaign (not to
mention the many death threats).



he does not see the world exactly as you see it; he is
> already flooded daily with thousands of statements demanding assent, yet
> wrote in message
> news:ckdhic$kcn$...

"jasmine" <> wrote in message
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>
> "3_D" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Good writing depends upon more than making a collection of statements
> worthy
> > of belief, because writing is intended to be read by others, with minds
> > different from your own. Your reader does not make the same mental
> > connections you make;
>
> I am sure you don't. I have learned that the earth is not flat from my
early
> youth. You still cling to this belief.
>
> The main point of this post is that the DVD demostrates (with CREDIBLE
> sources) the deceiptful history of BUSH's Swiftboat Veterans for Truth -
and
> it "lets you listen to Nixon and hear how determined he is to crush Kerry,
> putting up another veteran who has offered to head this phony pro-war
> veterans group. The veteran was John O'Neill and to hear Nixon discuss how
> they are going to use O'Neill and the front group to battle Kerry with
their
> lies and deceit is nothing less than chilling. O' Neill, of course, is the
> ringleader of today's Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and the author of Unfit
> for Command. How could this exact scenario be
> repeating itself?"
>
> It is not a post about Moore, he has occasionally gotten a few facts
> "wrong", albeit far less than most reporters. He is considered dangerous
> enough to mount a sustained and quite criminal smear campaign (not to
> mention the many death threats).
>
>
>
> he does not see the world exactly as you see it; he is
> > already flooded daily with thousands of statements demanding assent, yet
> > wrote in message
> > news:ckdhic$kcn$...
>
>

Moore <occasionally> gets a few facts <wrong>? ROFLMAO. The guy is a
pathological liar. But with liberals, ten lies make the truth.