audio errors in new star wars dvd?

From thedigitalbits.com

" In all the hype over the DVD release of Star Wars, I'm afraid to say
there's a bit of bad news about the discs (or at least one of them) from a
quality standpoint. We've discovered what we believe are serious audio
defects on Episode IV - A New Hope. We've updated our DVD review of the set
accordingly with the details as follows:

[Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, we've detected a
number of audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope. They are as
follows:

1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right after
Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start diving towards
the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume so that it's almost
inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the surround mix.

2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would
prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." - almost as
if the master sound element was damaged. It's very distracting.

3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film has
been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left rear
channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa). What this
means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels - instruments
heard from the front right channel come from the left rear instead of the
right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you notice it.

These problems are certainly severe enough in our opinion to merit a
repressing/exchange of the disc. We're waiting to hear back from Lucasfilm
on this issue and we'll update this review with the details as soon as we
do.] "


Hmm, I think I'll hold off on picking this up now.. anyone confirm this?

J.S.

J.S.

I just got my DVD set last night, I haven't had the time to watch it
yet but I did flip trough it expecially Episode IV and first I noticed
most of the surround was coming from the right channel and for the
first time ever my amplifier started clipping ( both left channels
front and surround).
I wasn't sure what to make of it, I thought it was due to the dolby 5.1
EX, I have only a regular dolby 5.1 decoder, but I suspected that
wasn't the real problem, after all EX should be backward compatible.

Can anyone shed some light on this, am I the only one with this problem?






In article <7CI3d.229410$mD.84101@attbi_s02>, J.S.
<> wrote:

> From thedigitalbits.com
>
> " In all the hype over the DVD release of Star Wars, I'm afraid to say
> there's a bit of bad news about the discs (or at least one of them) from a
> quality standpoint. We've discovered what we believe are serious audio
> defects on Episode IV - A New Hope. We've updated our DVD review of the set
> accordingly with the details as follows:
>
> [Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, we've detected a
> number of audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope. They are as
> follows:
>
> 1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right after
> Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start diving towards
> the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume so that it's almost
> inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the surround mix.
>
> 2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would
> prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." - almost as
> if the master sound element was damaged. It's very distracting.
>
> 3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film has
> been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left rear
> channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa). What this
> means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels - instruments
> heard from the front right channel come from the left rear instead of the
> right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you notice it.
>
> These problems are certainly severe enough in our opinion to merit a
> repressing/exchange of the disc. We're waiting to hear back from Lucasfilm
> on this issue and we'll update this review with the details as soon as we
> do.] "
>
>
> Hmm, I think I'll hold off on picking this up now.. anyone confirm this?
>
> J.S.
>
>

Elektro

RE: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwoc....html#ep4audio


"Elektro" <> wrote in message
news:240920041126509415%...
> I just got my DVD set last night, I haven't had the time to watch it
> yet but I did flip trough it expecially Episode IV and first I noticed
> most of the surround was coming from the right channel and for the
> first time ever my amplifier started clipping ( both left channels
> front and surround).
> I wasn't sure what to make of it, I thought it was due to the dolby 5.1
> EX, I have only a regular dolby 5.1 decoder, but I suspected that
> wasn't the real problem, after all EX should be backward compatible.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this, am I the only one with this problem?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In article <7CI3d.229410$mD.84101@attbi_s02>, J.S.
> <> wrote:
>
> > From thedigitalbits.com
> >
> > " In all the hype over the DVD release of Star Wars, I'm afraid to say
> > there's a bit of bad news about the discs (or at least one of them) from
a
> > quality standpoint. We've discovered what we believe are serious audio
> > defects on Episode IV - A New Hope. We've updated our DVD review of the
set
> > accordingly with the details as follows:
> >
> > [Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, we've detected a
> > number of audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope. They are
as
> > follows:
> >
> > 1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right
after
> > Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start diving
towards
> > the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume so that it's
almost
> > inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the surround mix.
> >
> > 2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would
> > prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." -
almost as
> > if the master sound element was damaged. It's very distracting.
> >
> > 3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film
has
> > been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left rear
> > channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa). What
this
> > means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels -
instruments
> > heard from the front right channel come from the left rear instead of
the
> > right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you notice it.
> >
> > These problems are certainly severe enough in our opinion to merit a
> > repressing/exchange of the disc. We're waiting to hear back from
Lucasfilm
> > on this issue and we'll update this review with the details as soon as
we
> > do.] "
> >
> >
> > Hmm, I think I'll hold off on picking this up now.. anyone confirm this?
> >
> > J.S.
> >
> >

mrknowitall

Being only casually into audio, I have always heard the term "clipping"
for amplifyers but don't quite know what it means. Can someone define
it?

Mike

Elektro wrote:
>
> I just got my DVD set last night, I haven't had the time to watch it
> yet but I did flip trough it expecially Episode IV and first I noticed
> most of the surround was coming from the right channel and for the
> first time ever my amplifier started clipping ( both left channels
> front and surround).
> I wasn't sure what to make of it, I thought it was due to the dolby 5.1
> EX, I have only a regular dolby 5.1 decoder, but I suspected that
> wasn't the real problem, after all EX should be backward compatible.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this, am I the only one with this problem?
>
> In article <7CI3d.229410$mD.84101@attbi_s02>, J.S.
> <> wrote:
>
> > From thedigitalbits.com
> >
> > " In all the hype over the DVD release of Star Wars, I'm afraid to say
> > there's a bit of bad news about the discs (or at least one of them) from a
> > quality standpoint. We've discovered what we believe are serious audio
> > defects on Episode IV - A New Hope. We've updated our DVD review of the set
> > accordingly with the details as follows:
> >
> > [Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, we've detected a
> > number of audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope. They are as
> > follows:
> >
> > 1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right after
> > Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start diving towards
> > the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume so that it's almost
> > inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the surround mix.
> >
> > 2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would
> > prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." - almost as
> > if the master sound element was damaged. It's very distracting.
> >
> > 3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film has
> > been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left rear
> > channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa). What this
> > means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels - instruments
> > heard from the front right channel come from the left rear instead of the
> > right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you notice it.
> >
> > These problems are certainly severe enough in our opinion to merit a
> > repressing/exchange of the disc. We're waiting to hear back from Lucasfilm
> > on this issue and we'll update this review with the details as soon as we
> > do.] "
> >
> >
> > Hmm, I think I'll hold off on picking this up now.. anyone confirm this?
> >
> > J.S.
> >
> >

Michael Rogers

The amplifier shuts down the channel for protection when overloading.
You will actually hear a cliking sound.


In article <>, Michael Rogers
<> wrote:

> Being only casually into audio, I have always heard the term "clipping"
> for amplifyers but don't quite know what it means. Can someone define
> it?
>
> Mike
>
> Elektro wrote:
> >
> > I just got my DVD set last night, I haven't had the time to watch it
> > yet but I did flip trough it expecially Episode IV and first I noticed
> > most of the surround was coming from the right channel and for the
> > first time ever my amplifier started clipping ( both left channels
> > front and surround).
> > I wasn't sure what to make of it, I thought it was due to the dolby 5.1
> > EX, I have only a regular dolby 5.1 decoder, but I suspected that
> > wasn't the real problem, after all EX should be backward compatible.
> >
> > Can anyone shed some light on this, am I the only one with this problem?
> >
> > In article <7CI3d.229410$mD.84101@attbi_s02>, J.S.
> > <> wrote:
> >
> > > From thedigitalbits.com
> > >
> > > " In all the hype over the DVD release of Star Wars, I'm afraid to say
> > > there's a bit of bad news about the discs (or at least one of them) from a
> > > quality standpoint. We've discovered what we believe are serious audio
> > > defects on Episode IV - A New Hope. We've updated our DVD review of the
> > > set
> > > accordingly with the details as follows:
> > >
> > > [Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, we've detected a
> > > number of audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope. They are
> > > as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > 1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right after
> > > Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start diving
> > > towards
> > > the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume so that it's
> > > almost
> > > inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the surround mix.
> > >
> > > 2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would
> > > prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." - almost
> > > as
> > > if the master sound element was damaged. It's very distracting.
> > >
> > > 3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film has
> > > been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left rear
> > > channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa). What this
> > > means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels -
> > > instruments
> > > heard from the front right channel come from the left rear instead of the
> > > right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you notice it.
> > >
> > > These problems are certainly severe enough in our opinion to merit a
> > > repressing/exchange of the disc. We're waiting to hear back from Lucasfilm
> > > on this issue and we'll update this review with the details as soon as we
> > > do.] "
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, I think I'll hold off on picking this up now.. anyone confirm this?
> > >
> > > J.S.
> > >
> > >

Asegawa

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 06:20:43 GMT, Michael Rogers
<> wrote:

>Being only casually into audio, I have always heard the term "clipping"
>for amplifyers but don't quite know what it means. Can someone define
>it?
>
>Mike


Clipping is when an amp is driven past it's peak performance. When
viewed on an oscilloscope, a sound wave is suppsed to be pointed, when
it is clipped, it will flatten at the top. And clipping can't always
be heard. What makes clipping so bad is, it can damage your speakers.

Dyuob Poltice

Ahhhh....

Dyuob Poltice wrote:
>
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 06:20:43 GMT, Michael Rogers
> <> wrote:
>
> >Being only casually into audio, I have always heard the term "clipping"
> >for amplifyers but don't quite know what it means. Can someone define
> >it?
> >
> >Mike
>
> Clipping is when an amp is driven past it's peak performance. When
> viewed on an oscilloscope, a sound wave is suppsed to be pointed, when
> it is clipped, it will flatten at the top. And clipping can't always
> be heard. What makes clipping so bad is, it can damage your speakers.

Michael Rogers

Lucas's excuses will be:

Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, we've detected a
number of audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope. They are
as follows:
1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right
after Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start
diving towards the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume
so that it's almost inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the
surround mix.

"I always planned for it to be that way from the beginning." "But the
technological limits of the time made it impossible for me to do so.

2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would
prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." -
almost as if the master sound element was damaged. It's very
distracting.

"I always planned for it to be that way from the beginning". "But the
technological limits of the time prevented me from being able to do so.

3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film
has been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left
rear channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa).
What this means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels
- instruments heard from the front right channel come from the left rear
instead of the right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you
notice it.

"I always planned for it to be that way when I originally produced it.
But it was impossible for me to do so with the technological limits of
the time the originals were released".

dvdguy2@webtv.net

Lucas's excuses will be:

Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, we've detected a
number of audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope. They are
as follows:
1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right
after Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start
diving towards the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume
so that it's almost inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the
surround mix.

"I always planned for it to be that way from the beginning." "But the
technological limits of the time made it impossible for me to do so.

2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would
prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." -
almost as if the master sound element was damaged. It's very
distracting.

"I always planned for it to be that way from the beginning". "But the
technological limits of the time prevented me from being able to do so.

3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film
has been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left
rear channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa).
What this means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels
- instruments heard from the front right channel come from the left rear
instead of the right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you
notice it.

"I always planned for it to be that way when I originally produced it.
But it was impossible for me to do so with the technological limits of
the time the originals were released".

dvdguy2@webtv.net

wrote:

I just got my DVD set last night, I haven't had the time to watch it yet
but I did flip trough it expecially Episode IV and first I noticed most
of the surround was coming from the right channel and for the first time
ever my amplifier started clipping ( both left channels front and
surround).
I wasn't sure what to make of it, I thought it was due to the dolby 5.1
EX, I have only a regular dolby 5.1 decoder, but I suspected that wasn't
the real problem, after all EX should be backward compatible.
Can anyone shed some light on this, am I the only one with this problem?
------------------------------------------------------

"I always planned it that way from the beginning. But technological
limits of the time made it impossible for me to do so at the time."

dvdguy2@webtv.net