Chicago Sun Times: Bush's draft is very POSSIBLE

"Navy Kurt" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> the following link doesn't provide one shred of "proof" claimed by the
> original poster to alt.punk.


Shreds of the likley senerio (not proof) are all over the web including the
site mentioned below...as well as a logical outcome of the disterous war.
And this seneraio make it into the mainstream press occasionally

by the Chicago Sun Times
Is Military Draft in the Works?
by Andrew Greeley

There's a sign on the horizon, no bigger than a man's hand, that
there's a military draft in the works. The Defense Department has announced
that Selective Service is making preparations for another draft, "in case
one is needed." The New York Times in an inane editorial pleads with the
president to articulate a goal for the war that if it "was clear and
comprehensive and people understood how to reach it, then Mr. Bush could . .
.. even bolster the desperately straitened military with a draft if Americans
understood the need to sacrifice." ...'



By now, it should be all over for George W Bush. America gets attacked
on
9/11, so he starts a war on false premises in an unrelated country
that
barely poses a threat to US security. In the wake, nearly 1000
Americans
lose their lives, many thousands more are maimed for life and tens of
thousands of other people are killed. The war costs $US200 billion,
seriously damages American credibility all around the world, and turns
the
US into the prime target for Third World resentments for generations
to
come. So waddaya do? You re-hire the guy, for another four years.

It's not as if the Bush domestic track record is any better. Thanks to
his
programme of tax cuts, Bush has turned the surplus he inherited into a
huge
deficit that will plague Americans for decades. A million fewer
Americans
will be in jobs at the end of his first term than when he took office.
Some
of his administration's closest corporate associates - Enron,
Halliburton -
have become bywords for greed and corruption.

Yes, by normal standards of accountability, Bush should be toast by
now....'http://www.listener.co.nz/default,2612.sm A NZ POINT OF VIEW




>
> http://www.bushdraft.com/proof.html
>
> try again yahoo.

Jasmine

OK. I am at fault for previously responding to this crap.

PLEASE REMOVE THIS NEWSGROUP FROM THIS THREAD.

I have serious reservations about the mental capacity for Jasmine and others
to do this. JUST ERASE THIS NEWSGROUP.


"Jasmine" <> wrote in message
news:ci53fb$kgl$...
>
> "Navy Kurt" <> wrote in message
> news: om...
>> the following link doesn't provide one shred of "proof" claimed by the
>> original poster to alt.punk.
>
>
> Shreds of the likley senerio (not proof) are all over the web including
> the
> site mentioned below...as well as a logical outcome of the disterous war.
> And this seneraio make it into the mainstream press occasionally
>
> by the Chicago Sun Times
> Is Military Draft in the Works?
> by Andrew Greeley
>
> There's a sign on the horizon, no bigger than a man's hand, that
> there's a military draft in the works. The Defense Department has
> announced
> that Selective Service is making preparations for another draft, "in case
> one is needed." The New York Times in an inane editorial pleads with the
> president to articulate a goal for the war that if it "was clear and
> comprehensive and people understood how to reach it, then Mr. Bush could .
> .
> . even bolster the desperately straitened military with a draft if
> Americans
> understood the need to sacrifice." ...'
>
>
>
> By now, it should be all over for George W Bush. America gets
> attacked
> on
> 9/11, so he starts a war on false premises in an unrelated country
> that
> barely poses a threat to US security. In the wake, nearly 1000
> Americans
> lose their lives, many thousands more are maimed for life and tens of
> thousands of other people are killed. The war costs $US200 billion,
> seriously damages American credibility all around the world, and
> turns
> the
> US into the prime target for Third World resentments for generations
> to
> come. So waddaya do? You re-hire the guy, for another four years.
>
> It's not as if the Bush domestic track record is any better. Thanks
> to
> his
> programme of tax cuts, Bush has turned the surplus he inherited into
> a
> huge
> deficit that will plague Americans for decades. A million fewer
> Americans
> will be in jobs at the end of his first term than when he took
> office.
> Some
> of his administration's closest corporate associates - Enron,
> Halliburton -
> have become bywords for greed and corruption.
>
> Yes, by normal standards of accountability, Bush should be toast by
> now....'http://www.listener.co.nz/default,2612.sm A NZ POINT OF VIEW
>
>
>
>
>>
>> http://www.bushdraft.com/proof.html
>>
>> try again yahoo.
>
>

luminos

But when?

Maverick Dude

"luminos" <> wrote in message
news:...
> OK. I am at fault for previously responding to this crap.
>
> PLEASE REMOVE THIS NEWSGROUP FROM THIS THREAD.
>
> I have serious reservations about the mental capacity for Jasmine and
others
> to do this. JUST ERASE THIS NEWSGROUP.

Which newsgroup?

(Please, luminos, keep the juvenile insults to yourself.)





>
>
> "Jasmine" <> wrote in message
> news:ci53fb$kgl$...
> >
> > "Navy Kurt" <> wrote in message
> > news: om...
> >> the following link doesn't provide one shred of "proof" claimed by the
> >> original poster to alt.punk.
> >
> >
> > Shreds of the likley senerio (not proof) are all over the web including
> > the
> > site mentioned below...as well as a logical outcome of the disterous
war.
> > And this seneraio make it into the mainstream press occasionally
> >
> > by the Chicago Sun Times
> > Is Military Draft in the Works?
> > by Andrew Greeley
> >
> > There's a sign on the horizon, no bigger than a man's hand, that
> > there's a military draft in the works. The Defense Department has
> > announced
> > that Selective Service is making preparations for another draft, "in
case
> > one is needed." The New York Times in an inane editorial pleads with the
> > president to articulate a goal for the war that if it "was clear and
> > comprehensive and people understood how to reach it, then Mr. Bush could
..
> > .
> > . even bolster the desperately straitened military with a draft if
> > Americans
> > understood the need to sacrifice." ...'
> >
> >
> >
> > By now, it should be all over for George W Bush. America gets
> > attacked
> > on
> > 9/11, so he starts a war on false premises in an unrelated country
> > that
> > barely poses a threat to US security. In the wake, nearly 1000
> > Americans
> > lose their lives, many thousands more are maimed for life and tens
of
> > thousands of other people are killed. The war costs $US200 billion,
> > seriously damages American credibility all around the world, and
> > turns
> > the
> > US into the prime target for Third World resentments for
generations
> > to
> > come. So waddaya do? You re-hire the guy, for another four years.
> >
> > It's not as if the Bush domestic track record is any better. Thanks
> > to
> > his
> > programme of tax cuts, Bush has turned the surplus he inherited
into
> > a
> > huge
> > deficit that will plague Americans for decades. A million fewer
> > Americans
> > will be in jobs at the end of his first term than when he took
> > office.
> > Some
> > of his administration's closest corporate associates - Enron,
> > Halliburton -
> > have become bywords for greed and corruption.
> >
> > Yes, by normal standards of accountability, Bush should be toast by
> > now....'http://www.listener.co.nz/default,2612.sm A NZ POINT OF VIEW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> http://www.bushdraft.com/proof.html
> >>
> >> try again yahoo.
> >
> >
>
>

Jasmine

alt.video.dvd

Goodbye, I hope with all my being.



"Jasmine" <> wrote in message
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>
> "luminos" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> OK. I am at fault for previously responding to this crap.
>>
>> PLEASE REMOVE THIS NEWSGROUP FROM THIS THREAD.
>>
>> I have serious reservations about the mental capacity for Jasmine and
> others
>> to do this. JUST ERASE THIS NEWSGROUP.
>
> Which newsgroup?
>
> (Please, luminos, keep the juvenile insults to yourself.)
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Jasmine" <> wrote in message
>> news:ci53fb$kgl$...
>> >
>> > "Navy Kurt" <> wrote in message
>> > news: om...
>> >> the following link doesn't provide one shred of "proof" claimed by the
>> >> original poster to alt.punk.
>> >
>> >
>> > Shreds of the likley senerio (not proof) are all over the web including
>> > the
>> > site mentioned below...as well as a logical outcome of the disterous
> war.
>> > And this seneraio make it into the mainstream press occasionally
>> >
>> > by the Chicago Sun Times
>> > Is Military Draft in the Works?
>> > by Andrew Greeley
>> >
>> > There's a sign on the horizon, no bigger than a man's hand, that
>> > there's a military draft in the works. The Defense Department has
>> > announced
>> > that Selective Service is making preparations for another draft, "in
> case
>> > one is needed." The New York Times in an inane editorial pleads with
>> > the
>> > president to articulate a goal for the war that if it "was clear and
>> > comprehensive and people understood how to reach it, then Mr. Bush
>> > could
> .
>> > .
>> > . even bolster the desperately straitened military with a draft if
>> > Americans
>> > understood the need to sacrifice." ...'
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > By now, it should be all over for George W Bush. America gets
>> > attacked
>> > on
>> > 9/11, so he starts a war on false premises in an unrelated country
>> > that
>> > barely poses a threat to US security. In the wake, nearly 1000
>> > Americans
>> > lose their lives, many thousands more are maimed for life and tens
> of
>> > thousands of other people are killed. The war costs $US200
>> > billion,
>> > seriously damages American credibility all around the world, and
>> > turns
>> > the
>> > US into the prime target for Third World resentments for
> generations
>> > to
>> > come. So waddaya do? You re-hire the guy, for another four years.
>> >
>> > It's not as if the Bush domestic track record is any better.
>> > Thanks
>> > to
>> > his
>> > programme of tax cuts, Bush has turned the surplus he inherited
> into
>> > a
>> > huge
>> > deficit that will plague Americans for decades. A million fewer
>> > Americans
>> > will be in jobs at the end of his first term than when he took
>> > office.
>> > Some
>> > of his administration's closest corporate associates - Enron,
>> > Halliburton -
>> > have become bywords for greed and corruption.
>> >
>> > Yes, by normal standards of accountability, Bush should be toast
>> > by
>> > now....'http://www.listener.co.nz/default,2612.sm A NZ POINT OF VIEW
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bushdraft.com/proof.html
>> >>
>> >> try again yahoo.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

luminos

"luminos" <> wrote in message
news:...
> alt.video.dvd
>
> Goodbye, I hope with all my being.

Bye and a final word:

Everybody talks about mercy,
But they don't know the meaning of the word.

Mose Allison

Fallujah is an Iraqi Beslan. The only difference is that the cameras aren't
rolling.

The city of 500,000 is being held hostage by an American leadership who
doesn't mind shedding the blood of innocent civilians to achieve their
broader political goals. That is the very definition of terrorism.

Since, the Marines were rebuffed last April in a three week siege that
killed an estimated 650 Iraqis, the military has repeatedly bombed sections
of Falluja using the spurious claim of targeting terrorist "safe houses."
Every incident involved the wanton destruction of personal property and the
loss of innocent life.

These attacks are part of larger "psy-ops" (psychological operation)
strategy that requires the long-term terrorizing of the population to make
them more compliant to American wishes. Certainly, the Chechen rebels should
be taking notes if they want to truly grasp the subtleties of a well-managed
terrorist procedure.

If terrorism is not recorded on video, it doesn't exist. This is the "great
lesson" that the Dept of Defense gleaned from our involvement in Vietnam.
Nothing was learned about the moral depravity of killing 3 million people
and poisoning their land in a blatant act of aggression. No, the lesson of
Vietnam was simply to keep the killing and maiming off American TVs.

As a result, Iraq has become a war on information every bit as much as a war
for vital resources. The reporting has been so meticulously sanitized that
it bears no resemblance to the real horror we are unleashing against a
defenseless civilian population.

It should surprise no one that Al Jazeera was expelled from Iraq. Their
coverage has been a major departure from the Pentagon narrative that fills
the pages of the New York Times and Washington Post. Rather than provide
apologetics for the hostilities, they have focused their gaze on the
suffering of normal people; people living without power or clean water,
people dealing with the daily struggle of living in a war zone, people
digging their family members out of the ruins of a smoldering building.

This level of truth is anathema to the objectives of the empire. As Beslan
proves, it is impossible to carry on a campaign of terror under the scrutiny
of a camera lens.

Besides, America doesn't perpetrate terrorism. Our efforts in Iraq are
purely altruistic. We have come to "liberate"; to bring democracy to
unwashed natives of a primitive third world backwater and remove the scourge
of WMD from a crazed tyrant.

Nonsense. The fear that engulfed Beslan, now cuts a wide swath through Iraq
enveloping everyone within its vice-like grip. Falluja is just the most
recent chapter in this campaign of terror.

www.counterpunch.org
>
>
>
> "Jasmine" <> wrote in message
> news:ci5tqp$av1$...
> >
> > "luminos" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> >> OK. I am at fault for previously responding to this crap.
> >>
> >> PLEASE REMOVE THIS NEWSGROUP FROM THIS THREAD.
> >>
> >> I have serious reservations about the mental capacity for Jasmine and
> > others
> >> to do this. JUST ERASE THIS NEWSGROUP.
> >
> > Which newsgroup?
> >
Please, luminos, keep the juvenile insults to yourself. Dissidents in the
USSR were called crazy. not much differenet here in some quarters.

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jasmine" <> wrote in message
> >> news:ci53fb$kgl$...
> >> >
> >> > "Navy Kurt" <> wrote in message
> >> > news: om...
> >> >> the following link doesn't provide one shred of "proof" claimed by
the
> >> >> original poster to alt.punk.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Shreds of the likley senerio (not proof) are all over the web
including
> >> > the
> >> > site mentioned below...as well as a logical outcome of the disterous
> > war.
> >> > And this seneraio make it into the mainstream press occasionally
> >> >
> >> > by the Chicago Sun Times
> >> > Is Military Draft in the Works?
> >> > by Andrew Greeley
> >> >
> >> > There's a sign on the horizon, no bigger than a man's hand, that
> >> > there's a military draft in the works. The Defense Department has
> >> > announced
> >> > that Selective Service is making preparations for another draft, "in
> > case
> >> > one is needed." The New York Times in an inane editorial pleads with
> >> > the
> >> > president to articulate a goal for the war that if it "was clear and
> >> > comprehensive and people understood how to reach it, then Mr. Bush
> >> > could
> > .
> >> > .
> >> > . even bolster the desperately straitened military with a draft if
> >> > Americans
> >> > understood the need to sacrifice." ...'
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > By now, it should be all over for George W Bush. America gets
> >> > attacked
> >> > on
> >> > 9/11, so he starts a war on false premises in an unrelated
country
> >> > that
> >> > barely poses a threat to US security. In the wake, nearly 1000
> >> > Americans
> >> > lose their lives, many thousands more are maimed for life and
tens
> > of
> >> > thousands of other people are killed. The war costs $US200
> >> > billion,
> >> > seriously damages American credibility all around the world, and
> >> > turns
> >> > the
> >> > US into the prime target for Third World resentments for
> > generations
> >> > to
> >> > come. So waddaya do? You re-hire the guy, for another four
years.
> >> >
> >> > It's not as if the Bush domestic track record is any better.
> >> > Thanks
> >> > to
> >> > his
> >> > programme of tax cuts, Bush has turned the surplus he inherited
> > into
> >> > a
> >> > huge
> >> > deficit that will plague Americans for decades. A million fewer
> >> > Americans
> >> > will be in jobs at the end of his first term than when he took
> >> > office.
> >> > Some
> >> > of his administration's closest corporate associates - Enron,
> >> > Halliburton -
> >> > have become bywords for greed and corruption.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, by normal standards of accountability, Bush should be toast
> >> > by
> >> > now....'http://www.listener.co.nz/default,2612.sm A NZ POINT OF VIEW
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.bushdraft.com/proof.html
> >> >>
> >> >> try again yahoo.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Jasmine

I strongly suggest that you find another country to live in. One without
any of the problems you see, or imagine. I hear Bora Bora is nice. Bye
Bye.

luminos

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:29:11 +1200, during a voyage through the cold
waters of alt.punk, i happened upon the crew of "Jasmine"
<>:

<snip>

I came across the cutest cat named Jasmine earlier today. She's a bit
of a beast at 16 pounds but it's entirely excusable enough when the
purring starts. Even cuter yet is a peculiar trait in her where if
you pet towards her tail she compulsively licks her front legs without
any restraint. Without fail and every time she uncontrollably licks
her legs; the more aggressively you pet the more aggressively she
licks. It's amazing, but it's a short lived delight. Soon enough her
tail begins swishing back and forth before she finally bites back!
And it isn't any old bite -she snaps hard. The ghost of a snapper
turtle surely has taken up residence in this furry bungalow of a cat.
Any pain is quickly forgotten when you see the onery glare on her soft
face.
--
best regards, mat
np: siberia - were gonna party like its

I WILL round this Cape even if I have to keep sailing until doomsday!

the flying dutchman

"luminos" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I strongly suggest that you find another country to live in. One without
> any of the problems you see, or imagine.


Hey luminos, you Looney conman we are going to civilize the US...and we will
try to make room for you.


By now, it should be all over for George W Bush. America gets attacked on
9/11, so he starts a war on false premises in an unrelated country that
barely poses a threat to US security. In the wake, nearly 1000 Americans
lose their lives, many thousands more are maimed for life and tens of
thousands of other people are killed. The war costs $US200 billion,
seriously damages American credibility all around the world, and turns the
US into the prime target for Third World resentments for generations to
come. So waddaya do? You re-hire the guy, for another four years.

It's not as if the Bush domestic track record is any better. Thanks to his
programme of tax cuts, Bush has turned the surplus he inherited into a huge
deficit that will plague Americans for decades. A million fewer Americans
will be in jobs at the end of his first term than when he took office. Some
of his administration's closest corporate associates - Enron, Halliburton -
have become bywords for greed and corruption.

Yes, by normal standards of accountability, Bush should be toast by now.

Yet, at this point, only two months from election day - and Bush is looking
like a near certainty for re-election. The polls have him pulling ahead in
swing states such as Florida, and leaping out in Time and Newsweek polls to
a 52-41 lead nationwide over his Democratic challenger John Kerry. And what
is giving Bush his current winning edge? The issue of national security, and
his perceived credibility as the commander in chief.

That's right. The guy who used his family's political connections to shirk
his national service during the Vietnam war is being seen as more credible
than the guy who got wounded in action, and who was decorated for his
courage and leadership under fire in Vietnam. Somehow, the issue that has
dominated the media campaign coverage during the last few weeks has been
whether Kerry had or hadn't crossed the border into Cambodia during a secret
mission 30 years ago, and had or hadn't come under fire in the process.

This is worrying, and not simply for Americans. As Slate magazine's William
Saletan said in his coverage of the recent Republican convention in New
York, any criticism of the Bush presidency is now being held to be (a)
unpatriotic and (b) effeminate. During his convention speech, Arnold
Schwarzenegger railed against the "girlie-men" economists who dared to voice
misgivings about the Bush record of economic management. In this climate of
intimidation, the welfare of Bush is being equated with the welfare of the
nation. The stubborn fixations that landed the US in the current mess in
Iraq are being recast as the bulldog tenacity that the country needs in its
time of crisis.


I hear Bora Bora is nice. Bye
> Bye.
>
>

Jasmine

"Jasmine" <> wrote in message news:<ci53fb$kgl$>...
> "Navy Kurt" <> wrote in message
> news: om...
> > the following link doesn't provide one shred of "proof" claimed by the
> > original poster to alt.punk.
>
>
> Shreds of the likley senerio (not proof) are all over the web including the
> site mentioned below...as well as a logical outcome of the disterous war.
> And this seneraio make it into the mainstream press occasionally
>
> by the Chicago Sun Times
> Is Military Draft in the Works?
> by Andrew Greeley
>
> There's a sign on the horizon, no bigger than a man's hand, that
> there's a military draft in the works. The Defense Department has announced
> that Selective Service is making preparations for another draft, "in case
> one is needed." The New York Times in an inane editorial pleads with the
> president to articulate a goal for the war that if it "was clear and
> comprehensive and people understood how to reach it, then Mr. Bush could . .
> . even bolster the desperately straitened military with a draft if Americans
> understood the need to sacrifice." ...'
>
>
>
> By now, it should be all over for George W Bush. America gets attacked
> on
> 9/11, so he starts a war on false premises in an unrelated country
> that
> barely poses a threat to US security. In the wake, nearly 1000
> Americans
> lose their lives, many thousands more are maimed for life and tens of
> thousands of other people are killed. The war costs $US200 billion,
> seriously damages American credibility all around the world, and turns
> the
> US into the prime target for Third World resentments for generations
> to
> come. So waddaya do? You re-hire the guy, for another four years.
>
> It's not as if the Bush domestic track record is any better. Thanks to
> his
> programme of tax cuts, Bush has turned the surplus he inherited into a
> huge
> deficit that will plague Americans for decades. A million fewer
> Americans
> will be in jobs at the end of his first term than when he took office.
> Some
> of his administration's closest corporate associates - Enron,
> Halliburton -
> have become bywords for greed and corruption.
>
> Yes, by normal standards of accountability, Bush should be toast by
> now....'http://www.listener.co.nz/default,2612.sm A NZ POINT OF VIEW
>
If I were of drafting age, and they reinstated it, I'd have a dick in
my mouth faster than you could say, "Don't ask, don't tell" and the
pix would be posted to every appropriate binaries group in short
order. If my son were, I'd advise him to do exactly the same thing.
To make a nice point I could get the suckee to wear a GW Bush mask and
a t-shirt that says "CHICKEN HAWK" Heck, maybe make the photo into a
t-shirt transfer and wear it into the draft office.

"Hey Mr. Draft Board, I don't wanna go."
--David Peel

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo?