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On 9/15/04 7:52 PM, in article ,
"Rutgar" <> wrote:

> Yes, 2001 was a feat in it's day. But, the effects shots in 2001,
> compared to Star Wars look extremely dated. The number one item that
> can be credited for the difference, was the motion control camera.
> It's invention changed the way movies are made forever. And it was a
> Star Wars first.
>
> While were on a side track, since we were talking about effects, I
> thought I'd look up a little history on the use of CGI. As far as I
> could discover, this is what I found out:
>
> (1982) Tron - the first film to use CGI
> (1984) The Last Starfigher - all spacecraft were CGI (no models)
> (1985) Young Sherlock Holmes - used CGI to create a "stain glass"
> knight.
> (1989) The Abyss - first film to use what's considered modern day
> realistic 3-D CGI with the "water tentacle".
> (2001) Final Fantasy The Spirits Within - The first computer-generated
> animated motion picture with photo-realistic characters
>
> If I've missed something, or something's incorrect, please post.
>
> - Rutgar


Don't forget the Genesis sequence in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
(1982).....

Neal
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Derek Janssen commented:

> Let's put it this way:
> In April 1977, the Coolest Sci-Fi Movie Ever Made was "Logan's Run".

I don't remember things that way. Where I lived, in Las Cruses,
New Mexico, I can't recall even hearing about Logan's Run
among my friends or in school (I was in 5th grade).

Even at a young age, I'd been impressed with 2001, and I know
for a fact that my father and "older folk" would've considered
that the Coolest Sci-Fi Movie Ever Made.

With us kids -- The Planet of the Apes was still discussed a lot,
especially since it hadn't been that long ago that the TV series
had been around. And speaking of TV, and sci-fi, I recall an
awful lot of kids being fans of the Six Million Dollar Man.

But Logan's Run -- I don't recall even paying attention to that
film until I saw it on network TV sometime in the early 80's.

And this is as good a time to mention:

Close Encounters was pretty huge in '77 as well. Stars Wars
had peaked the interest in sci-fi films, and I can remember there
was a lot of excitement before and after CE was released. And
for me personally, it's been those famous five notes in CE that
have echoed through my childhood instead of anything from
Star Wars.

Yes, I *love* Star Wars. Seen it 50 (zillion ) odd times. But
I still *prefer* movies with a more "solid" background in science.
I respect a 2001 or a Close Encounters more than I do Star Wars.
If I was stuck on that perverbial island with the choice ofonly
one film to watch the rest of my life, it would still be Alien. I'm not
knocking Star Wars, or denying it was a cultural super-phenomenon;
I just don't don't think it was the "end-all, be-all" sci-fi flick that some
people want to make it out as. It was great, no doubt, but there were
several great films made before it, and a couple of true classics released
just after.

I will definately credit Star Wars with one thing. If Star Wars hadn't
been a huge hit, I never would've gotten my favorite film (Alien), so
thank you Star Wars and George Lucas for opening up Hollywood
for future sci-fi blockbusters.

Have a great day!

ADWatts

Straker <> writes:
> And hey, with the original version, you do get to see a split second
> of bare blue boob just before Jabba drops the dancer into the Rancor
> pit.

What the?!? Luca$ clearly has his head firmly up his a$$!
Bring back the blue boob!!!

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In article <>, Sue <> wrote:
>
>
>Rutgar wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:56:02 GMT, Straker <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <>, RogerM
>>><> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I just saw the original crawl on the little A&E promo piece airing
>>>>>tonight, and it was sweet. One could almost imagine people actually
>>>>>wanting to see the film the way it was when it touched their hearts a
>>>>>long time ago.
>>>>
>>>>I can remember back in '77 when it was first released. I was 14, and the
>>>>ad on TV just blew me away. Together with some stuff I'd read in StarLog
>>>>magazine, it had me primed for the movie.
>>>
>>>And today there are college graduates that weren't even born when Star
>>>Wars first hit it big and can't understand or even imagine the whole,
>>>amazing phenomenon it was. To them, it's a good but old movie. Might as
>>>well be in black and white. Damn, I feel old.
>>
>>
>> Sort of like "Beatlemania". If you weren't there, you just don't get
>> it.
>>
>> - Rutgar
>
>Sigh, yeah...it's very hard to describe just how totally Star Wars took
>over American popular culture that summer, and how it came out of
>absolutely nowhere to do so. No film since has come even close to it in
>terms of universal appeal and cultural saturation. And all that without
>tons of pre-release hype and promotional movie websites! Just good
>old-fashioned word of mouth.
>
>Plus, of course, in 1977 you couldn't see it and say 'Wow, I can't wait
>to buy the DVD in six months!' The best you could hope for was to see it
>on TV in about three years; otherwise, the only thing you could do if
>you wanted to see it again anytime soon (legally) was to go back to the
>theater over and over and over. Like me.
>
>Sue
>
Then when it did come out on video tape it was at the rental price of like $80
a copy. You had to hope to find and buy a used beat up tape that was a year
old after being rented 90 some odd times.

and freaking pan and scanned !!!!

In article <130920042257211074%>, Straker <> wrote:
>In article <>, Rutgar
><> wrote:
>
>> Yes. Which is why I ended up seeing it 21 times on it's initial run
>> at the theater. Star Wars permeated everything. There was even a
>> Star Wars "Disco" song that was being played on the radio, which had
>> sound effects from the film (R2D2, etc.) mixed throughout the music.
>> The first and only disco music I ever bought.
>
>From the one and only Meco Monardo, normally billed as only Meco. There
>was also a much longer version on his LP, "Star Wars and Other Galactic
>Funk."
Made with what was called a MOOG synthesizer.

In article <bl2112->, Black Locust <> wrote:
>In article <>,
> Sue <> wrote:
>
>> Sigh, yeah...it's very hard to describe just how totally Star Wars took
>> over American popular culture that summer, and how it came out of
>> absolutely nowhere to do so. No film since has come even close to it in
>> terms of universal appeal and cultural saturation. And all that without
>> tons of pre-release hype and promotional movie websites! Just good
>> old-fashioned word of mouth.
>
>The Matrix says hi.
The matrix says sucky sequels

Jordan Lund wrote:
> (Paul Casino) wrote in message news:<. com>...
>
>
>>I'm stunned that nobody up to this point has complained that one of
>>said "features" is a bonus preview of the new star wars video game,
>>which will be a useless piece of crap in three years when the graphics
>>look like crap and the game is played out.
>
>
> It's a fun bonus if you have an Xbox, if you don't have an Xbox it
> doesn't matter. 30 years from now it will be fun to show the kids what
> video games looked like now. :^)
>
> - Jordan

I've still got my Empires Strikes Back game for the ZX Spectrum...

diesel

John Savard wrote:
> Maybe those are fake discs which will be replaced before the official
> release date.

You do realize that DVDs are just mastered, authored, pressed,
boxed, and shipped to retailers overnight do you?

The changes are real, I've seen em with my own eyes myself.

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lensman1955 wrote:
> I think I must be the only person who didn't mind Jar-Jar all that
> much. There was so much else wrong with the film, the comedy relief
> didn't bother me at all.

I don't mind comic relief but it got to be a bit on the overkill side
after a bit as far as I am concerned with Jar Jar Binks.

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Sue wrote:
> I know the special's in the DVD set, thanks, but for those of us who
> aren't buying the set, this is a chance to see the special for free.

Its a shorter version as they do need to run ads. The DVD version will
be much longer, so its all good.

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