the leopard DVD: Criterion vs Bfi - is there likely to be a big difference?

Can anyone advise me on this. There's a huge difference in price, criterion's
offering is already available and includes (I think) a Visconte biog but at
around £30 is double the price of Bfi's version which is out at the end of
September. Might there be a difference in quality or any other factor that
could justify this price difference.

feedback welcome

Jim

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=5858



On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:25:26 +0200, Jim <he@.re> wrote:

>Can anyone advise me on this. There's a huge difference in price, criterion's
>offering is already available and includes (I think) a Visconte biog but at
>around £30 is double the price of Bfi's version which is out at the end of
>September. Might there be a difference in quality or any other factor that
>could justify this price difference.
>
>feedback welcome







"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

Allan

many thanks for this - that's a useful link for the future. On this particular
film though, there isn't yet an entry for the Bfi version which I hoped to
compare.

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:42:18 -0400, Allan
<> wrote:

>http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=5858
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>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:25:26 +0200, Jim <he@.re> wrote:
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>>Can anyone advise me on this. There's a huge difference in price, criterion's
>>offering is already available and includes (I think) a Visconte biog but at
>>around £30 is double the price of Bfi's version which is out at the end of
>>September. Might there be a difference in quality or any other factor that
>>could justify this price difference.
>>
>>feedback welcome
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>"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
>because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
>-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
>- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

Jim

Jim,

Do you have a link to this new "BFI" version??

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:29:40 +0200, Jim <he@.re> wrote:

>many thanks for this - that's a useful link for the future. On this particular
>film though, there isn't yet an entry for the Bfi version which I hoped to
>compare.
>
>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:42:18 -0400, Allan
>< > wrote:
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>>http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=5858
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>>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:25:26 +0200, Jim <he@.re> wrote:
>>
>>>Can anyone advise me on this. There's a huge difference in price, criterion's
>>>offering is already available and includes (I think) a Visconte biog but at
>>>around £30 is double the price of Bfi's version which is out at the end of
>>>September. Might there be a difference in quality or any other factor that
>>>could justify this price difference.
>>>
>>>feedback welcome
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
>>because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
>>-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
>>- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_







"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

Allan

Hi Allan, the best I can do is from the amazon.uk site:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...902782-6870002

It's not out until the end of the month apparently (I guess that would explain
why your comparison site doesn't yet have any info).
I'm not expert in these matters, but I gather Criterion have a reputation for
quality but I wonder if this is down to the packaging and extras rather than the
quality of the actual transfers?

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:36:53 -0400, Allan
<> wrote:

>Jim,
>
>Do you have a link to this new "BFI" version??
>
>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:29:40 +0200, Jim <he@.re> wrote:
>
>>many thanks for this - that's a useful link for the future. On this particular
>>film though, there isn't yet an entry for the Bfi version which I hoped to
>>compare.
>>
>>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:42:18 -0400, Allan
>>< t> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=5858
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:25:26 +0200, Jim <he@.re> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Can anyone advise me on this. There's a huge difference in price, criterion's
>>>>offering is already available and includes (I think) a Visconte biog but at
>>>>around £30 is double the price of Bfi's version which is out at the end of
>>>>September. Might there be a difference in quality or any other factor that
>>>>could justify this price difference.
>>>>
>>>>feedback welcome
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
>>>because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
>>>-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
>>>- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
>because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
>-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
>- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

Jim

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:36:53 -0400, Allan
<> wrote:

>Jim,
>
>Do you have a link to this new "BFI" version??
>
>

Just check the bfi site

http://www.bfi.org.uk/videocat/index..._view/code/404

Bob Smolinsky

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:14:22 +0200, Bob Smolinsky
<> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:36:53 -0400, Allan
>< > wrote:
>
>>Jim,
>>
>>Do you have a link to this new "BFI" version??
>>
>>
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>Just check the bfi site
>
>http://www.bfi.org.uk/videocat/index..._view/code/404
>
Now why didn't I think of that....

Many thanks.

I'm still trying to read between the lines on this. As I understand it, the
Criterion package includes an extra dubbed american-english version (presumably
with Burt Lancaster's own voice) though I would imagine that this is the same
film with an alternative sound-track.
Do you happen to know how BFI's track-record compares to Criterions as far as
quality of transfer is concerned?

Jim

I don't know about the Bfi version but the Criterion includes 2 different
release versions of the film -- the complete unedited one and the original
American release.

AAbrams0264

On 07 Sep 2004 15:05:54 GMT, ojunk (AAbrams0264) wrote:

>I don't know about the Bfi version but the Criterion includes 2 different
>release versions of the film -- the complete unedited one and the original
>American release.

Yes it seems that is the major difference. But since I'm only interested in
Visconti's original subtitled italian version - both of which are supplied by
BFI and Criterion, I wonder if there would be a signigicant difference between
the two?

Jim

Guess we will have to wait until it's released! Keep an eye on that
site, one hopes it gets updated with the new version..

Now a true fan of the film would have copies of all versions! )

At least that's what the companies would love.


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:53:13 +0200, Jim <he@.re> wrote:

>On 07 Sep 2004 15:05:54 GMT, ojunk (AAbrams0264) wrote:
>
>>I don't know about the Bfi version but the Criterion includes 2 different
>>release versions of the film -- the complete unedited one and the original
>>American release.
>
>Yes it seems that is the major difference. But since I'm only interested in
>Visconti's original subtitled italian version - both of which are supplied by
>BFI and Criterion, I wonder if there would be a signigicant difference between
>the two?







"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

Allan