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Robert Morgan
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      08-30-2004
<Quadrilogy as a word>

>The correct term has always been
>"tetralogy", to my knowledge.


I'm assuming the "incorrectness" of quadrilogy is due to its use of the Latin
"Quadri-" and Greek "-logy." I'm not fond of the word- as you note, tetralogy
(Greek throughout) is preexisting and, IMO, less clumsy.

But, there's at least one popular word combining both Latin and Greek-
television. So, confused etymology isn't a complete barrier to being a "word."
Words typically enter languages by common usage, not by merit or etymological
roots; luckily, I don't see "quadrilogy" entering common parlance anytime soon.


I think the publishers just figured the average Joe is more familiar with
"Quadri-" meaning four over "Tetra-"; I could imagine shoppers trying to figure
out why there was an Aliens-edition of "Tetris."
 
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Douglas Bailey
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      08-30-2004
Joshua Zyber wrote:
> Douglas Bailey wrote:

["quadrilogy"]
>> Substitute "stupid yes-it's-in-the-OED-but-so-frickin'-what? word" for
>> "stupid made-up word".

>
> You'll have to forgive me that I don't have a copy handy, but since when
> is "quadrilogy" in the OED?


I'm just going by my source,
<http://google.com/groups?selm=mul0rvofdo97103kj16ej9vgnvdmfphe5t%404 ax.com>,
since I don't have the full OED myself, nor do I pay for online access to
it.


> The correct term has always been "tetralogy", to my knowledge.


Certainly "tetralogy" is the more common word in English usage. But since
"tetra-" is Greek and "quad-" is Latin, and since "tri-" (as in "trilogy",
the more commonly-encountered form) is the same in Greek *and* Latin, I
think "tetralogy" and "quadrilogy" are roughly equal in terms of
English-language validity or correctness.

("Decalogue"/"decalog" also appears to be the same in Greek and Latin,
incidentally. And there's no "bilogy" or "pentalogy" to give away which
language "trilogy" and "decalogue" are from.)

doug

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Jordan Lund
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      08-30-2004
Douglas Bailey <> wrote in message news:<>...

> See <http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1cxzbw8599ru1%24.dlg%40snernce.com>
> for a listing of features from the original _Alien Legacy_ set that didn't
> make it into the _Alien Quadrilogy_ set.


Which begs the question, if I have the Legacy set with the bonus disc
am I missing anything by passing on the quadrilogy? Or should I just
"upgrade" my Alien 3 and Ressurection discs with their off-the-shelf
replacements...

- Jordan
 
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Joshua Zyber
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      08-31-2004
"Jordan Lund" <> wrote in message
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> Which begs the question, if I have the Legacy set with the bonus disc
> am I missing anything by passing on the quadrilogy? Or should I just
> "upgrade" my Alien 3 and Ressurection discs with their off-the-shelf
> replacements...


The Quadrilogy set has hours upon hours of entirely new supplements, as
well as new recut versions of Alien, Alien 3, and Alien Resurrection
(the original theatrical cuts are also there).


 
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Joshua Zyber
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      08-31-2004
"Robert Morgan" <> wrote in message
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> I think the publishers just figured the average Joe is more familiar

with
> "Quadri-" meaning four over "Tetra-"; I could imagine shoppers trying

to figure
> out why there was an Aliens-edition of "Tetris."


Which is why they should have just called it "The Alien Saga", as they
have in the past. That's a better-sounding title and allows an open
flexibility to include future films (such as the current Alien vs.
Predator atrocity).




 
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jayembee
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      08-31-2004
(Jordan Lund) wrote:

>Douglas Bailey <> wrote:
>
>> See <http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1cxzbw8599ru1%24.dlg%40snernce.com>
>> for a listing of features from the original _Alien Legacy_ set that didn't
>> make it into the _Alien Quadrilogy_ set.

>
>Which begs the question, if I have the Legacy set with the bonus disc
>am I missing anything by passing on the quadrilogy? Or should I just
>"upgrade" my Alien 3 and Ressurection discs with their off-the-shelf
>replacements...


OK, the "Quadrilogy" comes in two forms:

(1) One 9-disc set, with two discs for each film, plus a ninth disc of
extra extras.

(2) 2-disc editions of each of the films.

The 2-disc edition for each film has the exact same contents as the
two discs of that film in the 9-disc Quadrilogy set. As said before,
by getting the 2-discers, you miss having the ninth disc.

As for your question, yes, you are missing stuff. ALIEN has an
intro by Scott, as well as two versions of the film. The second is
basically the deleted scenes (available in the Legacy set edition)
incorporated into the film.

ALIENS also has two versions: the original theatrical cut (first time
on DVD) plus the extended cut previously available.

ALIEN^3 has two versions: the original theatrical cut, plus an
extended cut.

ALIEN RESURRECTION has two versions: the original theatrical
cut, and an extended version. Also, an intro by Jeunet.

If you want to maximize your ALIEN collection, your best bet would
be to buy the 9-disc Quadrilogy set, keep your copies of ALIEN and
the fifth disc from the Legacy set, and sell off the Legacy set copies
of the other three films.

-- jayembee
 
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Douglas Bailey
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      08-31-2004
Jordan Lund wrote:
> Douglas Bailey wrote:


>> See <http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1cxzbw8599ru1%24.dlg%40snernce.com>
>> for a listing of features from the original _Alien Legacy_ set that
>> didn't make it into the _Alien Quadrilogy_ set.

>
> Which begs the question, if I have the Legacy set with the bonus disc
> am I missing anything by passing on the quadrilogy?


You're definitely missing some worthwhile supplements: new commentaries,
new documentaries, lots of material. Most of it is very good: I'm not sure
any of it is *essential*, though.

The single most significant thing (IMO) is the theatrical cut of _Aliens_,
since the _Legacy_ version only contained the longer SE cut.

I'd also give honourable mention to the text supplements from the old LD
box sets for _Alien_ and _Aliens_ (found on the ninth disc in the
_Quadrilogy_). I've always found those to be great features, myself...

doug

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Define, refine my altitude..."
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Ant
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      08-31-2004

"J. Balsamo" <> wrote in message
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> I was in CC today and noticed there is yet another Aliens SE out. Now I

have
> the Aliens Legacy box set, but I did not get the supplimental 5th disk in
> time when it was offered so my question is this: is there anything on this
> SE that warrants a purchase or will my AL version of Aliens do just fine?


>
>


To be honest, it really doesn't matter as it is not in DTS and the Japanese
releases from what I have been told, are.

I rented the US version and found the picture and sound to be no different
than the director's cut I bought on DVD in 99?

Anyway.

Ant




 
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Robert Morgan
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      08-31-2004
>Which is why they should have just called it "The Alien Saga", as they
>have in the past. That's a better-sounding title and allows an open
>flexibility to include future films (such as the current Alien vs.
>Predator atrocity).


Yeah. The boxset's title makes it sound as if the storyline is complete.
(Perhaps it should have been after Aliens, IMO.) It's a shame that "Alien
Legacy" is taken by Marvel Comics- "Alien Saga" is descriptive, if bland.
 
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Eric R.
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      08-31-2004
robozz (Robert Morgan) wrote in message news:<>...

> luckily, I don't see "quadrilogy" entering common parlance anytime soon.


I like "quadrilogy" better than "tetralogy." "Quadrilogy" roles off
the tongue better and "quad" is much more clearly recognizable as
denoting "4" than "tetra." Plus the "ri" in quad-"rilogy" links it
more closely with its lesser brother "trilogy," indiciating more
clearly that it's a series of films. Tetralogy has the more ambiguous
"alogy."

-Eric
 
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