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Old 06-26-2004, 10:07 PM   #1
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I suppose this is one of the drawbacks of lossy video compression, but
relatively often there is a freeze frame effect in which the video
seems paused on the screen. Or is it due to frame per second
conversion?

In "Forrest Gump," it's after he breaks up the Black Panther party,
but before they change the scene.


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Old 06-26-2004, 10:10 PM   #2
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> In "Forrest Gump," it's after he breaks up the Black Panther party,
> but before they change the scene.


You mean a momentary pause? It's probably the DVD switching layers.


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Old 06-26-2004, 10:34 PM   #3
Nick Legrand
 
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and it doesn't happen alot.. just 1 time.. or you have issues with your
player ofcourse...
"Aphelion" <> wrote in message
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> > In "Forrest Gump," it's after he breaks up the Black Panther party,
> > but before they change the scene.

>
> You mean a momentary pause? It's probably the DVD switching layers.
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>



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Old 06-26-2004, 11:05 PM   #4
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Tim923 wrote:
> I suppose this is one of the drawbacks of lossy video compression, but
> relatively often there is a freeze frame effect in which the video
> seems paused on the screen. Or is it due to frame per second
> conversion?
>
> In "Forrest Gump," it's after he breaks up the Black Panther party,
> but before they change the scene.


You're talking about something that happens once during the movie? That
is the layer change. Some players, especially those built from old
DVD-ROM parts, are better at handling the layer change smoothly, other
players have a distractingly long pause.

Many DVDs are recorded on double-layered discs (virtually all of them,
these days, though in the early days of DVD this was pretty rare), these
are usually gold tinted. It's what it sounds like, there is a
semi-transparent layer on top and one on bottom, when the first layer is
read, the laser re-focuses and reads from the second layer. Ideally the
second layer is a reverse spiral, meaning it begins at the same spot
where the first layer ends, but unfortunately some DVDs have the layers
spiral the same way, and the second layer's starting point is the same
as the first, resulting in a longer pause as the player moves the laser
lens back to the hub.

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Old 06-26-2004, 11:43 PM   #5
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"Tim923" <> wrote in alt.video.dvd:
>I suppose this is one of the drawbacks of lossy video compression, but
>relatively often there is a freeze frame effect in which the video
>seems paused on the screen. Or is it due to frame per second
>conversion?
>
>In "Forrest Gump," it's after he breaks up the Black Panther party,
>but before they change the scene.


"Layer transition". Perfectly normal -- some players don't pause at
all, some pause for a second or two and a few have problems.

We've discussed this a million times, but still it seems a lot of
people don't know about it.

I've even noticed printed warnings on some discs I bought recently.

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Old 06-26-2004, 11:54 PM   #6
Tim923
 
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OK, great. Thanks.

>You mean a momentary pause? It's probably the DVD switching layers.


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Old 06-27-2004, 06:46 PM   #7
Jay G
 
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Stan Brown <> wrote:
> "Tim923" <> wrote in alt.video.dvd:
>> I suppose this is one of the drawbacks of lossy video compression,
>> but relatively often there is a freeze frame effect in which the
>> video seems paused on the screen. Or is it due to frame per second
>> conversion?
>>
>> In "Forrest Gump," it's after he breaks up the Black Panther party,
>> but before they change the scene.

>
> "Layer transition". Perfectly normal -- some players don't pause at
> all, some pause for a second or two and a few have problems.
>
> We've discussed this a million times, but still it seems a lot of
> people don't know about it.
>
> I've even noticed printed warnings on some discs I bought recently.


From the back of the PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN:
"Dual-Layer Format: Layer transition may trigger a slight pause."

-Jay


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Old 06-27-2004, 09:01 PM   #8
Tweek
 
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In The Matrix, it happens right when they around the phone, having just
entered the matrix to take neo to meet the Oracle.


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