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On Mon, 3 May 2004 08:05:25 -0700, Tarkus <> wrote:

>> All I know is they cost more than a cheap VCR and a stack of blank
>> tapes.
>
>And a car generally costs more than a bicycle. *shrug*

A bike helps burn the fat, a car doesn't. ^_^ And I don't have to
worry about $2+ per gallon for the bike.

Ok pointless subject. I do want to have TiVo but as long as my
current VCR still works, I don't plan to switch yet. I still have
many VHS that aren't available on DVD yet (Yellowbeard? Thundercats
shows? Nelvamations?)
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Impmon wrote:

>>You don't really know what the advantage of Tivo is, do you?
>
> All I know is they cost more than a cheap VCR and a stack of blank
> tapes.

And that I don't have to pay monthly subscriptions or have any line
hooked up to Sony to tape that night's Daily Show.

Derek Janssen

Impmon wrote:

>>>All I know is they cost more than a cheap VCR and a stack of blank
>>>tapes.
>>
> Ok pointless subject. I do want to have TiVo but as long as my
> current VCR still works, I don't plan to switch yet. I still have
> many VHS that aren't available on DVD yet (Yellowbeard? Thundercats
> shows? Nelvamations?)

Actually, depends on what you *want* out of Tivo:

If there's some software for converting stored playback directly to PC
for DVD-burning, then more power to ya, since most of the competitors
probably don't have that compatibility yet--
But if (like its marketers believe), you don't have ambitions beyond
just being able to rewind the football game or catch last night's "Joan
of Arcadia", many larger cable companies are now including their *own*
competing digital-playback services as an added part of the
subscription, with no additional lines.

Which brings up ghosts of the old DIVx Wars:
Do we want the technology to exist of itself, or do we not mind
automatically paying its owners every month for the privilege?

Derek Janssen

On Mon, 03 May 2004 16:17:33 -0700, Derek Janssen <>
wrote:

>If there's some software for converting stored playback directly to PC
>for DVD-burning, then more power to ya, since most of the competitors
>probably don't have that compatibility yet--

My understanding is pretty much all TiVo can be done this way, you
just need to transfer the hard drive to a PC running Linux and then
convert the video to an useable format. Sure sounds easier than
trying to hook the VCR to a PC through the tuner card not to mention
you get DVD quality rip rather than low res capture.

>Which brings up ghosts of the old DIVx Wars:
>Do we want the technology to exist of itself, or do we not mind
>automatically paying its owners every month for the privilege?

I'd rather not have to pay every month. Many services like this have
gone under or simply changed format. If TiVo service is discontinued
at one point in the future, just about every TiVo would become an
useless doorstop.
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:57:20 -0400, Impmon <> wrote:
>On Mon, 3 May 2004 08:05:25 -0700, Tarkus <> wrote:

>>> All I know is they cost more than a cheap VCR and a stack of blank
>>> tapes.
>>
>>And a car generally costs more than a bicycle. *shrug*

>A bike helps burn the fat, a car doesn't. ^_^ And I don't have to
>worry about $2+ per gallon for the bike.

>Ok pointless subject. I do want to have TiVo but as long as my
>current VCR still works, I don't plan to switch yet. I still have
>many VHS that aren't available on DVD yet (Yellowbeard? Thundercats
>shows? Nelvamations?)

hard drive video recorders are best at time shifting. There's a hell of a lot
of decent programming tucked away in the wee hours of the day. Program it to
record iffy stuff like home remodeling shows and perhaps one show in 10 will
be worth watching. Let it record all of them. Hard drive space is cheap.
The unit I have (homebuilt pc/linux/mythtv) has a 160GB drive and records at
..6GB/hr. I'd much rather have it do the cataloging than **** around with
135 tapes, or 45 tapes recorded in crappy EP. Plus it automatically deletes
old episodes (or not) per my settings.

In article <>, Impmon
<> wrote:

> On Mon, 03 May 2004 16:17:33 -0700, Derek Janssen <>
> wrote:
>

> >Which brings up ghosts of the old DIVx Wars:
> >Do we want the technology to exist of itself, or do we not mind
> >automatically paying its owners every month for the privilege?
>
> I'd rather not have to pay every month. Many services like this have
> gone under or simply changed format. If TiVo service is discontinued
> at one point in the future, just about every TiVo would become an
> useless doorstop.

No, they've said that if they go under they'd release a final version
of the software that lets you use it without the service: without the
guide data, you'd have to progam the times in manually for everything
but it's better then nothing.

--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total ****. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS

"Marci" <> wrote in message
news:XaTjc.38857$cF6.1698919@attbi_s04...
: I have no intention of getting rid of my VCR. Yes, I only buy movies
on
: DVD to view, but I have a couple of shows that I record daily to watch
: when I have the time. I watch 'em, rewind 'em, and record over them
the
: next day. Sure the quality sucks, but I'm only watching it once.
When
: the tape dies, I put in another and I'm good to go for another whirl.

======================
A Panasonic DVD Recorder with Hard Disc would do the same thing with
better quality.
======================
:
: I'd never give up my DVDs though! Almost all the movies I had on tape
: have been replaced with DVD. I'd never buy a VHS tape again. There
are
: a few, however, that aren't available on DVD so I have to have a VCR
to
: watch them.
:

"Richard C." <post-age @spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> "Marci" <> wrote in message
> news:XaTjc.38857$cF6.1698919@attbi_s04...
> : I have no intention of getting rid of my VCR. Yes, I only buy movies
> on
> : DVD to view, but I have a couple of shows that I record daily to watch
> : when I have the time. I watch 'em, rewind 'em, and record over them
> the
> : next day. Sure the quality sucks, but I'm only watching it once.
> When
> : the tape dies, I put in another and I'm good to go for another whirl.
>
> ======================
> A Panasonic DVD Recorder with Hard Disc would do the same thing with
> better quality.
> ======================

What about portability? Can this device export recordings to DVD that will
play in any player?

"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." <> wrote in message
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: "Richard C." <post-age @spamcop.net> wrote in message
: news:40979f98$0$77110$ m...
: > "Marci" <> wrote in message
: > news:XaTjc.38857$cF6.1698919@attbi_s04...
: > : I have no intention of getting rid of my VCR. Yes, I only buy
movies
: > on
: > : DVD to view, but I have a couple of shows that I record daily to
watch
: > : when I have the time. I watch 'em, rewind 'em, and record over
them
: > the
: > : next day. Sure the quality sucks, but I'm only watching it once.
: > When
: > : the tape dies, I put in another and I'm good to go for another
whirl.
: >
: > ======================
: > A Panasonic DVD Recorder with Hard Disc would do the same thing with
: > better quality.
: > ======================
:
: What about portability? Can this device export recordings to DVD that
will
: play in any player?
:
=====================
Yes.

"Richard C." <post-age @spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." <> wrote in message
> news:...
> : "Richard C." <post-age @spamcop.net> wrote in message
> : news:40979f98$0$77110$ m...
> : > "Marci" <> wrote in message
> : > news:XaTjc.38857$cF6.1698919@attbi_s04...
> : > : I have no intention of getting rid of my VCR. Yes, I only buy
> movies
> : > on
> : > : DVD to view, but I have a couple of shows that I record daily to
> watch
> : > : when I have the time. I watch 'em, rewind 'em, and record over
> them
> : > the
> : > : next day. Sure the quality sucks, but I'm only watching it once.
> : > When
> : > : the tape dies, I put in another and I'm good to go for another
> whirl.
> : >
> : > ======================
> : > A Panasonic DVD Recorder with Hard Disc would do the same thing with
> : > better quality.
> : > ======================
> :
> : What about portability? Can this device export recordings to DVD that
> will
> : play in any player?
> :
> =====================
> Yes.
>
Excellent news, thanks.