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hdtv is a bust.some shows can't air because of it.

 
 
Waterperson77
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      02-18-2004
>Yes, I must admit I love analog TV. It's lower resolution, and signal noise
>is much prettier and sharper than the 1920x1080 MPEG-2 files that are
>streamed along in HDTV land.


It is from what I myself have seen. When you can't even follow any story or
news on the digital HDTV stations because the picture always freezes and breaks
up into blocks every minute or so, (for the stations you do get) while the
analog is perfectly watchable. And most of the digital tv stations don't come
in at all even though theey're on the air (blank screen with a notice from the
hdtv receiver saying "weak signal") while the same stations' analog signals are
perfectly watchable.

I'd rather watch an analog signal where I can see a picture, hear the sound,
and follow the story or news information being presented rather than watching a
digital signal that I caan't even follow a story or news info on because the
signal on every station that does come in always freezes and breaks up into
blocks so that I can't see or hear the story or news info that is being
presented.


 
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Waterperson77
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      02-18-2004
>That doesn't make a lick of sense.
>
>And the lack of specifics in your article brands it as completely phony.


no it isn't. Here's a few direct quotes from the production company itself,
along with a direct quote of a reply.

1. direct quote from the production company that produces the show:

"We are experiencing technical difficulties.

2. direct quote from the production company that produce the show:

"Technical difficulties with the tape. Hope to be resolved next week".

3. direct quote from a reply to the above:

"There must be some serious technical difficulties to knock the show off tv for
almost a month"

4. direct quote from the production company that produces the show:

"You can let your forum know we are on hiatus. We have some technical
difficulties that need to be resolved. ( Our media format is not compatible
with WB's new format )

me: And there you have it from the production companny itself. by the way,
it's been more than a month now and the technical issues still haven't been
resolved.

The station did NOT cancel the show. The station did NOT put the show on
hiatus. However, the show IS on hiatus because it hasn't been able to air since
the production comany's tape format is not compatible with WB's new format.

The show isn't even able to air on the analog station because of the
incompatibilities caused by WB's new format (WB's digital tv format).

and wasn't able to air on the digital station, either because of it.

The tv station wants to show the show. The producers of the show want to show
the show. But neither are able to since the production company's tape format
isn't compatible with WB's new format.

And this problem coincided with January 1, 2004, the date that all over-the-air
tv stations must broadcast digitally by law ( not to be confused with
2006-2007, the date when all over the aair tv stations must stop analog tv
broadcasting.

And it's not some cheap public-acess cable tv station, either.

It's a sucessful regular full-powwered over-the-air tv station.

The production company of the show has been trying to resolve the technical
difficulties for over a month now, and still haven't been able to do so since
WB's new format is so incompatible with the production company's tape format.

As I said, over-the-air digital tv broadcasting is a bust. Not only do I get
terrible blocky reception on the digital channels that I do get, but digital
broadcasting also prevents analog tv shows (like the above) from being able to
air on analog tv and prevents it from airing on digital tv also.


 
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      02-18-2004
looking at the direct quotes from the production company that I provided, I see
there was only one mistake in my post regarding this subject, and that was when
I said "WB's new tape format".

The correct information is that the production company said "WB's new format",
not "WB's new tape format
".

The WB's new format is digital HDTV, and the production company said that the
production company's tape format is NOT compatible with WB's new format, and
that that is why the show isn't able to air even though both the production
company and the tv station want it to air. That that's the technical
dfficulties that are causing the problem.

So it's because of the digital HDTV format that a tv show that is supposed to
air on an analog tv station isn't even able to air on the analog tv station
like they're supposed to, anymore, and isn't able to air on the digital tv
station, either.


 
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      02-18-2004
Waterperson77 wrote on [18 Feb 2004 19:12:00 GMT]:
> looking at the direct quotes from the production company that I provided, I see
> there was only one mistake in my post regarding this subject, and that was when
> I said "WB's new tape format".


Just go away.
 
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      02-18-2004
"Waterperson77" <> wrote in message
news:...
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: January 1, 2004 was the date when all over-the-air tv stations must be
: broadcasting digitally (must have their digital transmitters on-the-air.)
:
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Congratulations!

You are correct!

There is always a first for everything............


 
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      02-18-2004
(Waterperson77) writes:
> The FCC required all tv shows tto broadcast digitally as of January 1, 2004.


And so this "production company" has had many years warning of the
upcoming change and did nothing. And I'm supposed to be sympathetic
why?

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      02-18-2004
"Anonymous Joe" <> writes:
> Change 2004 to 2007 and you might be right.....


You're confusing "start broadcasting in digital" with "stop
broadcasting in analog". Even the latter is put off until digital
gets 85% penetration, IIRC.

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      02-18-2004
In article <>,
Waterperson77 <> wrote:
>>Change 2004 to 2007 and you might be right.....
>>

>
>no, thee beginning og 2007 is the date when all over-the-air analog tv
>broadcasting must stop.
>
>January 1, 2004 was the date when all over-the-air tv stations must be
>broadcasting digitally (must have their digital transmitters on-the-air.)
>
>although they can keep their analog tv stations until the end of 2006-beginning
>of 2007, ther digital tv stations must also be on te air as of January 1, 2004


There is no set in stone date for the end of analog transmissions anymore.
It is based upon how fast HDTV is embraced in each TV market. See the FCC's
web site for more details.
 
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Waterperson77
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      02-18-2004
>There is no set in stone date for the end of analog transmissions anymore.
>It is based upon how fast HDTV is embraced in each TV market. See the FCC's
>web site for more details.
>


well, that's more of a matter of a way of looking at it. You're right, but my
understanding is that the set date is still there and still yet. However,
you're correct since the rules also say that analog shutoff doesn't have to
happen in each market unil 85 percent of the people in that market hass acess
to digital signals. (which supposedly could delay analog shutoff until way
after 2006)

However, while I assumed that meant until 85 pecent of the people have digital
recievers, other people said that it means until more than 85 percent of the tv
stations in a marrket are digital (still forcing analog shutoff aat the end of
2006) and not the percent of people having recievers.

I don't know which of the two intterpretations is correct.

only time will tell.

But those are the two diffferent interpretations of "acess to digital signals"
that are out there.


 
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Waterperson77
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      02-18-2004
>And so this "production company" has had many years warning of the
>upcoming change and did nothing. And I'm supposed to be sympathetic
>why?


It's my understanding that the company probably can't afford the change. And
by the way, they didn't do nothing.

They're trying to resolve the problem. They said that their tape format is not
compatible with WB's new format.

But eveything they have tried to resolve the problem so far has failed. (within
what they can afford to do).

They had no idea that their tape format would be incompatible with WB's new
format until it happened.

For years, I've read a lot about hdtv and digital broadcasting, and I certainly
never read or heard anything about certain tv industry standard tape being
incompatible with digital atsc format, until this happened.

Therefore, they most certainly didn't know, either.

Yes, they were mosst certaainly aware of the change to digital broadcasting,
but they weren't aware that their tape format would be incompatible with
digital tv broadcasting.

They didn't have any idea it would happen either, until it happened.



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