ALIENS - Major Plot Hole

Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
"Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.

- Rutgar

Rutgar

"Rutgar" <> wrote in message
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> Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
> it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
> "Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.
>
> - Rutgar


You'd better rewrite the script and see if James Cameron wants to re-shoot
the movie.

Or maybe you should ask, Why did the Titanic set out without enough
lifeboats? A bit short sighted, that.

Mark W

"Mark W" <s@o> wrote in news::

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> "Rutgar" <> wrote in message
> news...
>> Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
>> it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
>> "Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.
>>
>> - Rutgar
>
>
> You'd better rewrite the script and see if James Cameron wants to
> re-shoot the movie.
>
> Or maybe you should ask, Why did the Titanic set out without enough
> lifeboats? A bit short sighted, that.
>
>
>

The Titanic set out without lifeboats b/c it was an "unsinkable" ship. To
set off w/ enough lifeboats is not to believe in your product. Dumb in
any event.

Yankee CEM

It fits in with leaving the loading ramp down and more-or-less unguarded on
the lander in a hostile situation. If the characters had any sense it would
take a lot more clever writing to put them in the situations necessary for
this action flick to work.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:44:19 GMT, Rutgar <> wrote:

>Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
>it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
>"Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.
>
>- Rutgar

Capn Queeg

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:51:29 -0800, Capn Queeg <>
wrote:

>It fits in with leaving the loading ramp down and more-or-less unguarded on
>the lander in a hostile situation. If the characters had any sense it would
>take a lot more clever writing to put them in the situations necessary for
>this action flick to work.
>
>On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:44:19 GMT, Rutgar <> wrote:
>
>>Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
>>it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
>>"Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.
>>
>>- Rutgar

Yeah, that one bugged me as well. I just thought it was strange that
in the first movie, they were careful not to leave themselves open.
Only three of the crew went out to explore the derelict, with the rest
of the crew remaining on board. Even after Cain had been "faced
hugged", Ripley refused to let them back into the ship, per
"quarantine rules". Ash, was the "fly in the soup", that allowed the
quarantine rule to be circumvented. In "Aliens", they didn't need an
"Ash". They continually left themselves wide open on all fronts.
Thus, making "Aliens" not as believable and realistic as "Alien" was.

- Rutgar

Rutgar

Rutgar <> wrote:

> Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
> it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
> "Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.

Yep. Dumb to the extreme. Blame Jimbo.

Peter Briggs

Capn Queeg <> wrote:

> It fits in with leaving the loading ramp down and more-or-less unguarded on
> the lander in a hostile situation.

Don't you think that ship ought to have motion trackers engaged?

Peter Briggs

Rutgar <> wrote in message

> Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
> it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
> "Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.

Yeah, pretty dumb move. But, then again, those guys were pretty cocky
and not used to encountering any kind of real resistance. It might
have just been a by-product of their arrogance.

There is also the possibility that Carter pressed Gorman to do this
(as part of his "plan" to get specimens beack on board without the
others knowing about it).

-Eric

Eric R.

Well the obvious answer in terms of the movie was to make it harder for the
characters to eascape.

However, the Sulaco did have some sort of automated computer system aboard. One
that was programmed to eject the survivors from Aliens into the EEV in Alien 3
so perhaps as a part of the hubris of the Colonial Marines, they felt a
standing ship crew was not needed.

I think you make a good point. Don't know if it can be called a plot hole, but
it is something to consider. Alien is still the best of the series imho.

Mark
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> > Why wasn't there a flight crew left on board the Sulaco? Seems like
> > it was rather "short-sighted" of the "Space Marines" and
> > "Weyland-Yutani", to unload the entire Sulaco of all crew and troops.
>
> Yeah, pretty dumb move. But, then again, those guys were pretty cocky
> and not used to encountering any kind of real resistance. It might
> have just been a by-product of their arrogance.

Right. They just thought it was a "bug hunt" and completely underestimated
the threat.

But as for the Sulaco, it was mechanized. No flight crew necessary. After
all, it piloted itself over vast interstellar distances whilst the crew
slept. Much simpler (I would assume) to maintain orbit.

Mike Jackson
Editor & Web Developer, DVD Verdict
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