Progressive scan dvd's on a non-progressive scan tv

Hello. I am posting here for the first time because I am really
confused. I have tried to pull down and read some faqs about
"progressive scan", but they only serve to confuse me. I just would
like to know something. I hope some body can help me. here goes:

I have a *crappy* Zenith DVD player. It is not progressive scan. It
often messes up and freezes pictures on rented dvd's, or else shuts
down the dvd player, or skips, etc. etc. There are some dvd's that
won't even start in this $%&*! player. It is NOT a "progressive scan"
player. The guy at the video store told me to get a "progressive
scan" player and my problem would be solved. So, I looked in the
papers and noticed I could get a cheap progressive scan DVD player for
around $50. I almost bought one, except there was the instructional
manual on it and I started reading it and it said that in order to
utilize progressive scan, you must use "different" rca plugs and have
a "progressive scan" tv. I have a Sony 32", about 4-5 years old, and
I don't think it is a progressive scan.

My dvd player is conected by S-VHS plug for color and rca pin plugs
for video left and right.

Can someone tell me, in plain language, what I need to take advantage
of "progressive scan" dvd players, which, hopefully will allow me to
see movies without any problems?

thank you so much!

Jack.

jack lift

in article , jack lift at
wrote on 12/8/03 8:32 AM:

> Hello. I am posting here for the first time because I am really
> confused. I have tried to pull down and read some faqs about
> "progressive scan", but they only serve to confuse me. I just would
> like to know something. I hope some body can help me. here goes:
>
> I have a *crappy* Zenith DVD player. It is not progressive scan. It
> often messes up and freezes pictures on rented dvd's, or else shuts
> down the dvd player, or skips, etc. etc. There are some dvd's that
> won't even start in this $%&*! player. It is NOT a "progressive scan"
> player. The guy at the video store told me to get a "progressive
> scan" player and my problem would be solved. So, I looked in the
> papers and noticed I could get a cheap progressive scan DVD player for
> around $50. I almost bought one, except there was the instructional
> manual on it and I started reading it and it said that in order to
> utilize progressive scan, you must use "different" rca plugs and have
> a "progressive scan" tv. I have a Sony 32", about 4-5 years old, and
> I don't think it is a progressive scan.
>
> My dvd player is conected by S-VHS plug for color and rca pin plugs
> for video left and right.
>
> Can someone tell me, in plain language, what I need to take advantage
> of "progressive scan" dvd players, which, hopefully will allow me to
> see movies without any problems?
>
> thank you so much!
>
> Jack.

Yes, you would need a TV capable of progressive scan input via component
input (those 3 RCA video jacks)...Sounds great if you want a new HDTV, but
the problem you described has nothing to do with progressive scan.

First, make sure the discs are good. If you're going to a store to rent
them, check them in the store visually. They should be free of scratches
(ideally completely free, but minor ones are ok). They should also be free
of fingerprints, peanut butter, santorum, and whatever the hell else people
are getting on their discs.

If you can't do this at the store (Netflix), then you should check the disc
before inserting into the player, and clean them or even buff them if
necessary (only if necessary).

If you're still having problems, get a new player, but get a *decent*
player. It doesn't have to be expensive, but get feedback about what it can
and can't read instead of just grabbing whatever is on the candy shelf of
the supermarket checkout that day.

Hope this helps,
Mr Ed

MR_ED_of_Course

"jack lift" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Hello. I am posting here for the first time because I am really
> confused. I have tried to pull down and read some faqs about
> "progressive scan", but they only serve to confuse me. I just would
> like to know something. I hope some body can help me. here goes:
>
> I have a *crappy* Zenith DVD player. It is not progressive scan. It
> often messes up and freezes pictures on rented dvd's, or else shuts
> down the dvd player, or skips, etc. etc. There are some dvd's that
> won't even start in this $%&*! player. It is NOT a "progressive scan"
> player. The guy at the video store told me to get a "progressive
> scan" player and my problem would be solved. So, I looked in the
b***s**t..... the fact that your player doesn't play as it should, has
nothing to do with progressive scan.
My -both non progressive scan- Sony and Pioneer dvd players play all dvd's
without any problem (unless a disc is very dirty or heavly scratched).
If you damage a dvd enough (like some rentals) every player will stop
playing.
A cheap player however will probably (!!!!) be more sensitive then a less
cheaper player.

> papers and noticed I could get a cheap progressive scan DVD player for
> around $50. I almost bought one, except there was the instructional
> manual on it and I started reading it and it said that in order to
> utilize progressive scan, you must use "different" rca plugs and have
> a "progressive scan" tv. I have a Sony 32", about 4-5 years old, and
> I don't think it is a progressive scan.
>
> My dvd player is conected by S-VHS plug for color and rca pin plugs
> for video left and right.
>
> Can someone tell me, in plain language, what I need to take advantage
> of "progressive scan" dvd players, which, hopefully will allow me to
> see movies without any problems?
You need a tv-set which is 'progressive scan' enabled. Your 4-5 year old
SONY is not.
If you want to have a problem free image just buy a good DVD player from a
well known manufacturers like Pioneer, Sony, Denon, Yamaha...... and not
some 'made-somewhere-in-Asia-but-god-knows-where' player.

If you want to be prepared make sure it's progressive scan ...for whenever
you want to buy a prog. scan tv/projector.

> thank you so much!
>
> Jack.

Roy

roy

>I have a *crappy* Zenith DVD player. It is not progressive scan. It
>often messes up and freezes pictures on rented dvd's, or else shuts
>down the dvd player, or skips, etc. etc. There are some dvd's that
>won't even start in this $%&*! player. It is NOT a "progressive scan"
>player. The guy at the video store told me to get a "progressive
>scan" player and my problem would be solved.

Progressive scan has no bearing on whether or not DVDs skip.

Remove "moc" to reply.

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jack lift wrote:

> Can someone tell me, in plain language, what I need to take advantage
> of "progressive scan" dvd players, which, hopefully will allow me to
> see movies without any problems?


There is no player that can read badly scratched rental
discs. Like others already have stated in their posts,
upgrading to a prog scan player will most likely not
alleviate the problem. Your Zenith's error correction
[i.e. capability to read scratched discs] might in fact
be almost as good as with a top end player. And if you
want better error correction, good picture quality and
reliability, a $50 prog scan player might not be the
answer you're looking for. To enjoy your DVDs with the
minimum of hassle, get a decent player from a brand name
- prog scan or not.

For you to fully utilize a prog scan player, you also
need a display unit that will accept and display
progressive scan material. Even though your current TV
probably can't, you can upgrade to a quality prog. scan
player now and not use the progressive scan mode until
you also upgrade your TV or get a projector.

Progressive scan is such a large and complex subject I
won't get into that now, but in short - with a
progressive scan system [TV + player] the picture
quality of your DVD movies would improve. A little or a
lot depends on how readily you notice differences in
picture quality.

Hope this helps you!

..s

--
Reindeer Flotilla

Sakari Hannula

"jack lift" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> I have a *crappy* Zenith DVD player.

Theres part of your problem....

Make sure the discs are reasonably clean and free from bad scratches first
of all. If they are covered with fingerprints or some identifiable
substance, use a soft cloth to clean them b4 playing. Wipe from the center
out to the edge, DONT GO AROUND like you were cleaning an old record...

Progressive scan players are useless without progressive capable tvs. WHich
means either HDTV's or a few higher end tvs.

Buy a better player... A $100-$150 Panasonic, Pioneer, Toshiba, or Sony
will go a long way to improving your dvd experience.

Biz

"Biz" <> wrote in message news:<9KcBb.419279$>...
> "jack lift" <> wrote in message
> news: om...
> > I have a *crappy* Zenith DVD player.
>
> Theres part of your problem....
>
> Make sure the discs are reasonably clean and free from bad scratches first
> of all. If they are covered with fingerprints or some identifiable
> substance, use a soft cloth to clean them b4 playing. Wipe from the center
> out to the edge, DONT GO AROUND like you were cleaning an old record...
>
> Progressive scan players are useless without progressive capable tvs. WHich
> means either HDTV's or a few higher end tvs.
>
> Buy a better player... A $100-$150 Panasonic, Pioneer, Toshiba, or Sony
> will go a long way to improving your dvd experience.


I will just answer this thread, which is the last one that I see
regarding my original post about progressive scan players.

I just want to thank everyone alot for answering this so quickly and
thoroughly. I think now that after reading all your posts I am
somewhat more informed. Also, I will take "Biz"'s advice and just get
a better player. Thank you all for not "flaming" me for my basic
question (I am sure that we have all been there....) This seems like
a really decent newsgroup. Thanks again, everyone.

Jack.

jack lift

in my opinion, I don't think his problem is his dvd player, tv, or lack of
progressive sscan.

(although he thinks it is, from what he was told).

I think his problem is the rental dvds theirselves. A lot of people who rent
them get hem all scratched up where the dvd discs will no longer work properly.


He probably ended up with rental discs that other people had either scratched
up very badly or misused in some other way. (such as ussing thir rental dvds
for coasters to set their drinks on to avoid leaving a ring on their table.
Hey, there are some idiots out there who will use rental dvds for those type of
things.).

Waterperson77