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Grand Inquisitor
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      10-26-2003
Yep, it's true, according to this Ebay seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=18848

Of course, he's put "sharper than DVD" in quotes, so exactly how is he
considering LD to be sharper than DVD?

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Clare Quilty
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      10-26-2003
Haha. If you want to have some fun related to this topic, do a search on
Google Groups for 'Laserdisc versus dvd', and look at some of the old late
1990s posts of people ranting that DVD would fail and it was inferior to LD.
Where are they now? My LD collection was put on the market the day I saw the
first DVD.

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"Grand Inquisitor" <> wrote in message
news:dOImb.36543$...
> Yep, it's true, according to this Ebay seller:
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=18848
>
> Of course, he's put "sharper than DVD" in quotes, so exactly how is he
> considering LD to be sharper than DVD?
>
> --
> "Get rid of the Range Rover. You are not responsible for patrolling
> Australia's Dingo Barrier Fence, nor do you work the Savannah, capturing
> and tagging wildebeests."
> --Michael J. Nelson
>
> Grand Inquisitor
> http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=Oost
>



 
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Steve(JazzHunter)
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      10-26-2003
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:35 -0000, "Clare Quilty"
<> wrote:

>Haha. If you want to have some fun related to this topic, do a search on
>Google Groups for 'Laserdisc versus dvd', and look at some of the old late
>1990s posts of people ranting that DVD would fail and it was inferior to LD.
>Where are they now? My LD collection was put on the market the day I saw the
>first DVD.


Then you had a crappy LD collection or lack taste. DVD properly done
is indeed better quality than laser, but there are many many titles,
particularly from Turner(MGM) and RKO that will not see DVD for a
long, long time, if ever..

Laserdisc is for film collectors, DVD is for those with mass-market
tastes (though Image and Kino continue to release some good classics
and obscurities.)

. Steve .

 
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Rutgar
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      10-26-2003
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:11:32 -0500, "Steve(JazzHunter)"
<> wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:35 -0000, "Clare Quilty"
><> wrote:
>
>>Haha. If you want to have some fun related to this topic, do a search on
>>Google Groups for 'Laserdisc versus dvd', and look at some of the old late
>>1990s posts of people ranting that DVD would fail and it was inferior to LD.
>>Where are they now? My LD collection was put on the market the day I saw the
>>first DVD.

>
>Then you had a crappy LD collection or lack taste. DVD properly done
>is indeed better quality than laser, but there are many many titles,
>particularly from Turner(MGM) and RKO that will not see DVD for a
>long, long time, if ever..
>
>Laserdisc is for film collectors, DVD is for those with mass-market
>tastes (though Image and Kino continue to release some good classics
>and obscurities.)
>
> . Steve .


Laserdisc is for film collectors, DVD is for those with mass-market
tastes?!?!?. HORSE ****. A collection of Anamorphic DVD movies, on
a large Screen HDTV, are a film lovers dream!

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Mac Breck
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      10-26-2003
"Steve(JazzHunter)" <> wrote
in message
news:...
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:35 -0000, "Clare Quilty"
> <> wrote:
>
> >Haha. If you want to have some fun related to this topic,

do a search on
> >Google Groups for 'Laserdisc versus dvd', and look at

some of the old late
> >1990s posts of people ranting that DVD would fail and it

was inferior to LD.
> >Where are they now? My LD collection was put on the

market the day I saw the
> >first DVD.

>
> Then you had a crappy LD collection or lack taste. DVD

properly done
> is indeed better quality than laser, but there are many

many titles,
> particularly from Turner(MGM) and RKO that will not see

DVD for a
> long, long time, if ever..
>
> Laserdisc is for film collectors, DVD is for those with

mass-market
> tastes (though Image and Kino continue to release some

good classics
> and obscurities.)


Exactly.

When I see knee-jerk responses like "My LD collection was
put on the market the day I saw the first DVD.", I just
have to laugh. I haven't offered a single LD for sale.
Reasons:

1. Sometimes it takes a helluva long time for the titles
that I already have on LD, to come out on DVD. Witness
"National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation." It just came out
on DVD in widescreen. It only took FOURTEEN YEARS. The LD
version, admittedly 4:3, has been out for TEN YEARS. Sure,
I bought the widescreen DVD version when it finally came
out, but in the mean time, I've been able to watch the LD
version.

2. Sometimes when the title finally does come out on DVD,
the LD version is superior in some way that's important to
me, and the DVD release ends up being a disappointment.
Sometimes the DVD version will have an aspect ratio
screw -up, or will show signs of film degradation or lack of
care in making the DVD version (e.g. dust and scratches that
were not there in the LD version). Sometimes studios are
***CHEAP***, and do not take the proper care in making the
DVD. Sometimes they don't store the film correctly.
Sometimes they don't invest the money in restoration. In
those cases, I can just burn a copy of the LD onto DVD and
have a better version than the DVD version that I can buy.

3. Because of people like Ms. "My LD collection was put on
the market the day I saw the first DVD.", the LD market is
depressed, the butt of jokes by unknowing nitwits, and is
the new "Beta." Even if you want to sell your LDs, you
won't be able to get much for them. So why sell?
Undoubtedly, this is why she sold early. Maybe she didn't
miss having those titles for the years it'll take before
they're out on DVD.

I buy the DVD version of titles I already have on LD, when
the DVD version has additional features that I want (e.g.
commentaries, blooper reels, etc.), has a more correct
aspect ratio, or is something that I'm likely to want to
take over to someone else's house to show (...assuming that
"someone else" even has a DVD player. Not all do.).


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Mac Breck
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      10-26-2003
"Rutgar" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:11:32 -0500, "Steve(JazzHunter)"
> <> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:35 -0000, "Clare Quilty"
> ><> wrote:
> >
> >>Haha. If you want to have some fun related to this

topic, do a search on
> >>Google Groups for 'Laserdisc versus dvd', and look at

some of the old late
> >>1990s posts of people ranting that DVD would fail and it

was inferior to LD.
> >>Where are they now? My LD collection was put on the

market the day I saw the
> >>first DVD.

> >
> >Then you had a crappy LD collection or lack taste. DVD

properly done
> >is indeed better quality than laser, but there are many

many titles,
> >particularly from Turner(MGM) and RKO that will not see

DVD for a
> >long, long time, if ever..
> >
> >Laserdisc is for film collectors, DVD is for those with

mass-market
> >tastes (though Image and Kino continue to release some

good classics
> >and obscurities.)
> >
> > . Steve .

>
> Laserdisc is for film collectors, DVD is for those with

mass-market
> tastes?!?!?.


It *was*, before DVD took over.


> HORSE ****. A collection of Anamorphic DVD movies, on
> a large Screen HDTV, are a film lovers dream!


So, I guess you think every title that was out on LD is now
available in Anamorphic on DVD? Now, THAT's true HORSE
****.


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      10-26-2003

> 1. Sometimes it takes a helluva long time for the titles
> that I already have on LD, to come out on DVD. Witness
> "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation." It just came out
> on DVD in widescreen. It only took FOURTEEN YEARS. The LD
> version, admittedly 4:3, has been out for TEN YEARS. Sure,
> I bought the widescreen DVD version when it finally came
> out, but in the mean time, I've been able to watch the LD
> version.
>
>

For what it's worth, a 4:3 version of National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
was not an exclusive to LD (or VHS). It was also a very early DVD offering
from Warner Home Video. It's one of the earliest titles that I purchased
when getting a Sony DVD player back in 1998.



 
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Grand Inquisitor
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      10-26-2003
Clare Quilty wrote:
> Haha. If you want to have some fun related to this topic, do a search on
> Google Groups for 'Laserdisc versus dvd', and look at some of the old late
> 1990s posts of people ranting that DVD would fail and it was inferior to LD.
> Where are they now? My LD collection was put on the market the day I saw the
> first DVD.
>


So you tossed out your copies of the original Star Wars trilogy, Song of
the South, and Schindler's List, eh?

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Australia's Dingo Barrier Fence, nor do you work the Savannah, capturing
and tagging wildebeests."
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Grand Inquisitor
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      10-26-2003
Steve(JazzHunter) wrote:
> Laserdisc is for film collectors, DVD is for those with mass-market
> tastes (though Image and Kino continue to release some good classics
> and obscurities.)
>
> . Steve .
>


You know that sounds kind of elitist, even though I know what you mean.
Laserdisc, with even an entry level player with no surround sound
system or any of the other extras, was a relatively expensive
undertaking, and those special editions went over a hundred bucks. DVD
players and sound equipment is much cheaper these days, so you can have
more for less. You don't have to look down your nose at those of us who
never made the jump to LD, if anything the videophiles were helped by
DVD. They got a better format, for less money, and a virtual guarantee
of DD and widescreen for just about every movie. Just because that
niche market mentality is no longer there, that doesn't mean it isn't
special.

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Clare Quilty
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      10-26-2003
Seems I have opened a lively debate here! Well as I said I sold up when I
saw my first DVD ... all my mainstream titles went, at about 70% of what I
originally paid for them. I still have a few left, like The Conformist, but
the point is I didn't lose out on getting funds back as people who listened
to some 'experts' in the newsgroups did. Just look at the prices now on eBay
for discs! It's tragic as I loved the format at the time, but would never
argue that DVDs were only mass market.

> So you tossed out your copies of the original Star Wars trilogy, Song of
> the South, and Schindler's List, eh?


I have DVDs of the first and the last on that list, so I should worry (and
no, before someone gets all worked up, they are not Asian pirates) ....
Never had Song of the South anyway!

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