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Blarg wrote:

>
>
> Max Volume wrote:
>
>> In article <>, Erik Harris
>> <n$wsr$ader@$harrishom$.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is this through the whole movie? I tried watching it a few days ago,
>>>and got through the Crimson Whatever bit, and was just starting to
>>>get into the rest of the movie when we were interrupted by three
>>>phone calls in a row. By the time they were done, we didn't have
>>>time to watch the movie and get a decent amount of sleep for work
>>>Monday, so we decided to put it off awhile. In the portion that I
>>>watched (on my Sharp 36" NTSC TV with V-compression and crappy
>>>Samsung P-421 DVD player), I didn't notice the problems that you and
>>>other people here have mentioned. When I get a chance, I'll try it
>>>in my computer and see what it looks like.
>>
>>
>> Some have said they don't experience a problem, although they may
>> just not notice it.
>
> I beginning to think most people are just frikkin blind or retarded!
> How this basic field sequencing error ever made it past the so called
> "professional compressionists" working at Universal is unbelievable!!
> This is a real error on the disk itself and should definitely be
> obvious to anyone who understands video. If you don't see this
> problem on your player then a) your player sucks, b) your blind or
> c) you have Attention Deficit Disorder.
>
> In any case, Universal, you suck! Next time could you please select
> the "lower field first" option before you send out the RECALL disks...
> (bloody f-ing morons)....

Oh, come on Blarg...speak your mind.

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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Blarg (), in
message I%z7b.101950$kW.47920@edtnps84 who said:
>
> I beginning to think most people are just frikkin blind or retarded!
> How
> this basic field sequencing error ever made it past the so called
> "professional compressionists" working at Universal is unbelievable!!
> This is a real error on the disk itself and should definitely be
> obvious
> to anyone who understands video. If you don't see this problem on
> your
> player then a) your player sucks, b) your blind or c) you have
> Attention Deficit Disorder.
>
> In any case, Universal, you suck! Next time could you please select
> the "lower field first" option before you send out the RECALL disks...
> (bloody f-ing morons)....


Hmm... maybe the fault only affected one particular batch/pressing.

It would explain why some people are reporting no problems at all if it's
only some copies that are faulty.

BTN

> In any case, Universal, you suck! Next time could you please select the
> "lower field first" option before you send out the RECALL disks...
> (bloody f-ing morons)....

Has there been any rumblings about an actual recall for this release?

Paul

In article <bjn9e7$ku2lt$>, Ben Nunn
<> wrote:

> Hmm... maybe the fault only affected one particular batch/pressing.

And how exactly is that possible? Do you know ANYTHING about digital
media?

In article <100920031929334969%>, Max Volume
<> wrote:

> > Hmm... maybe the fault only affected one particular batch/pressing.
>
> And how exactly is that possible? Do you know ANYTHING about digital
> media?

I haven't had any problems whatsoever with my MOL discs, I know that
much.

At any rate, I doubt that every one of them that's out there were
pressed at the same time, and/or with exactly the same equipment. It's
entirely possible that one batch got screwed up and the others didn't.

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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Max Volume
(), in message
100920031929334969% who said:
> In article <bjn9e7$ku2lt$>, Ben Nunn
> <> wrote:
>
>> Hmm... maybe the fault only affected one particular batch/pressing.
>
> And how exactly is that possible? Do you know ANYTHING about digital
> media?


It's entirely possible that one or more low-volume test runs were burned
before the 'fault' was noticed.

But after this was corrected, the bad copies ended up in the distribution
pile anyway owing to an administrative error.

BTN

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:37:10 +0100, "Ben Nunn" <> wrote:

>Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Blarg (), in
>message I%z7b.101950$kW.47920@edtnps84 who said:
>>
>> I beginning to think most people are just frikkin blind or retarded!
>> How
>> this basic field sequencing error ever made it past the so called
>> "professional compressionists" working at Universal is unbelievable!!
>> This is a real error on the disk itself and should definitely be
>> obvious
>> to anyone who understands video. If you don't see this problem on
>> your
>> player then a) your player sucks, b) your blind or c) you have
>> Attention Deficit Disorder.
>>
>> In any case, Universal, you suck! Next time could you please select
>> the "lower field first" option before you send out the RECALL disks...
>> (bloody f-ing morons)....
>
>
>Hmm... maybe the fault only affected one particular batch/pressing.
>
>It would explain why some people are reporting no problems at all if it's
>only some copies that are faulty.

It (and "Blarg's" explanation) wouldn't explain the reports of people trying
the disc in multiple players and getting different results, though. I
remember seeing a post from a guy who tried three different set-top DVD
players, and got three different results, including one player where the
problem wasn't noticeable.

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In article <100920032012555561%>, Keeper of the Purple
Twilight <> wrote:

> At any rate, I doubt that every one of them that's out there were
> pressed at the same time, and/or with exactly the same equipment. It's
> entirely possible that one batch got screwed up and the others didn't.

Again, you obviously don't know **** about digital media.

Erik Harris wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:37:10 +0100, "Ben Nunn" <> wrote:
>
>
>>Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Blarg (), in
>>message I%z7b.101950$kW.47920@edtnps84 who said:
>>
>>>I beginning to think most people are just frikkin blind or retarded!
>>>How
>>>this basic field sequencing error ever made it past the so called
>>>"professional compressionists" working at Universal is unbelievable!!
>>>This is a real error on the disk itself and should definitely be
>>>obvious
>>>to anyone who understands video. If you don't see this problem on
>>>your
>>>player then a) your player sucks, b) your blind or c) you have
>>>Attention Deficit Disorder.
>>>
>>>In any case, Universal, you suck! Next time could you please select
>>>the "lower field first" option before you send out the RECALL disks...
>>>(bloody f-ing morons)....
>>
>>
>>Hmm... maybe the fault only affected one particular batch/pressing.
>>
>>It would explain why some people are reporting no problems at all if it's
>>only some copies that are faulty.
>
>
> It (and "Blarg's" explanation) wouldn't explain the reports of people trying
> the disc in multiple players and getting different results, though. I
> remember seeing a post from a guy who tried three different set-top DVD
> players, and got three different results, including one player where the
> problem wasn't noticeable.
>


I believe the difference is in comb filtering, or a different treatment
in how the field sequencing (interpolation) is handled. Lower end models
such as my Apex do almost nothing to alter field sequencing. The
"Meaning Of Life" error is extremely visible on this unit. On my higher
end Panasonic, the error in very hard to see in real time. But even on
this model, if you view the movie in slow motion the field reversal is
very noticeable.

I inspected the framing and I see nothing wrong with the actual position
of the fields, therefore it's highly likely that it is a flagging error
that has players switching fields.

I was happy with how Universal dealt with BTTF. And that was only a
minor error in the cropping of just a few seconds of those films. But
this is an annoying error that propagates throughout the entire movie.
(one of my all-time fav films to boot!!)

C'mon Universal, do the right thing...

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:00:26 GMT, Blarg <> wrote:
>I was happy with how Universal dealt with BTTF. And that was only a
>minor error in the cropping of just a few seconds of those films. But
>this is an annoying error that propagates throughout the entire movie.
>(one of my all-time fav films to boot!!)

Didn't it also take Universal a few months to officially acknowledge the
problem and say they'd fix it? And then a few more months to actually do it?

>C'mon Universal, do the right thing...

And hopefully a bit more promptly this time. If the problem is as simple as
you say, it shouldn't require any significant work on their part, and should
be an easier fix than BTTF was.

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