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Nhmiller
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      08-05-2004
Olympus D-520 Zoom
Epson 1280 Printer

I have been printing to ProMedia Glossy Photo Paper. Perhaps I have been penny
wise and pound foolish. It retails for $4 for 20 sheets of 8.5 x 11, but Fry's
has it on sale periodically for $1, which is when I stock up.

The problem is that the printed photos, especially indoors, have a pronounced
purple cast. I have made no adjustments to the Epson printer driver settings,
using the defaults for Color on Premium Glossy Photo Paper. I chose to do that
because when I print from scans made of paintings to Epson Professional Media
Matte Heavyweight (no penny pinching here), again with no changes to the
scanner or the printer driver defaults, the colors are 100% exactly the same as
the original prints.

The Epson printer driver has a Digital Camera Correction checkbox within the
PhotoEnhance4 setting, that I have not tried. There is also an EPSON Natural
Color setting within the Color Controls setting. There are many other settings
I could adjust. I know the first thing someone would say is experiment with
different paper, and then different settings. But, I wanted to see if others
have encountered this problem and what they did to get the prints to come out
with clear sharp colors. Or, if you know specifically what is causing the
purple cast. Thanks.

Neil
Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
http://www.carolwilsongallery.com
 
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bmoag
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      08-05-2004
The purple cast may be from a clogged head, computer monitor with unusually
high color temperature setting, bad ink cartridge, etc.
However a possible cause is that color management is being implemented more
than once in your printer settings. This is exactly the problem if you see
the color cast in the Epson print preview prior to printing. If the print
preview has approximately normal colors then the problem is usually not
software related.
The 1280 is a very accurate printer which means it does not forgive misuse
or poorly processed images. It will not give its best results unless used
with appropriate color management.
You should provide more information, specifically what software you use to
manipulate and print photos with.
If you use Elements, which I believe comes with the printer, that program
allows color management similar to Photoshop.
If you want to learn more about Elements/PS and printing with Epson printers
check out the Epson Academy on the Epson website.


 
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Skip M
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      08-05-2004
"Nhmiller" <> wrote in message
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> Olympus D-520 Zoom
> Epson 1280 Printer
>
> I have been printing to ProMedia Glossy Photo Paper. Perhaps I have been

penny
> wise and pound foolish. It retails for $4 for 20 sheets of 8.5 x 11, but

Fry's
> has it on sale periodically for $1, which is when I stock up.
>
> The problem is that the printed photos, especially indoors, have a

pronounced
> purple cast. I have made no adjustments to the Epson printer driver

settings,
> using the defaults for Color on Premium Glossy Photo Paper. I chose to do

that
> because when I print from scans made of paintings to Epson Professional

Media
> Matte Heavyweight (no penny pinching here), again with no changes to the
> scanner or the printer driver defaults, the colors are 100% exactly the

same as
> the original prints.
>
> The Epson printer driver has a Digital Camera Correction checkbox within

the
> PhotoEnhance4 setting, that I have not tried. There is also an EPSON

Natural
> Color setting within the Color Controls setting. There are many other

settings
> I could adjust. I know the first thing someone would say is experiment

with
> different paper, and then different settings. But, I wanted to see if

others
> have encountered this problem and what they did to get the prints to come

out
> with clear sharp colors. Or, if you know specifically what is causing the
> purple cast. Thanks.
>
> Neil
> Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
> http://www.carolwilsongallery.com


It's the paper. I use it for "contact sheets" but for serious printing, I
avoid it like the plague. B&W prints sorta greenish on both my Epson 880
and Canon 9000. Magenta cast in color on my Canon, never tried it on my
Epson.

--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com


 
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Nhmiller
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      08-05-2004
>It's the paper. I use it for "contact sheets" but for serious printing, I
>avoid it like the plague. B&W prints sorta greenish on both my Epson 880
>and Canon 9000. Magenta cast in color on my Canon, never tried it on my
>Epson.
>


Thanks Skip. Too bad about the prints done so far, but I learned a lesson. What
paper have you found works well? I wonder if I should use the Matte paper that
works perfectly for prints of paintings. A 13 x 19 sheet runs me about 60c.
That comes out to about 23c per 8.5 x 11. Does glossy have any advantage, or is
it no more than a long standing tradition?

Neil
Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
http://www.carolwilsongallery.com
 
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MikeS
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      08-05-2004

"bmoag" <> wrote in message
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> The purple cast may be from a clogged head, computer monitor with

unusually
> high color temperature setting, bad ink cartridge, etc.
> However a possible cause is that color management is being implemented

more
> than once in your printer settings. This is exactly the problem if you see
> the color cast in the Epson print preview prior to printing. If the print
> preview has approximately normal colors then the problem is usually not
> software related.
> The 1280 is a very accurate printer which means it does not forgive misuse
> or poorly processed images. It will not give its best results unless used
> with appropriate color management.
> You should provide more information, specifically what software you use to
> manipulate and print photos with.
> If you use Elements, which I believe comes with the printer, that program
> allows color management similar to Photoshop.
> If you want to learn more about Elements/PS and printing with Epson

printers
> check out the Epson Academy on the Epson website.
>
> Could be the camera white point setting? Check the exif information that

is with your shots. Remember rubbish in rubbish out.
Make sure you have not double corrected with gamut/gamma correction. Some
times I have found it is best to de-install Photocopy and reinstall, then
try printing without adjusting the gamma. Try different paper setting on the
printer, for example try photogloss film (yes I know its is supposed to be
transparent for over projection). Also try Colourlife photo paper. this
works with Olmac paper for me.
MikeS


 
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Skip M
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      08-05-2004
"Nhmiller" <> wrote in message
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> >It's the paper. I use it for "contact sheets" but for serious printing,

I
> >avoid it like the plague. B&W prints sorta greenish on both my Epson 880
> >and Canon 9000. Magenta cast in color on my Canon, never tried it on my
> >Epson.
> >

>
> Thanks Skip. Too bad about the prints done so far, but I learned a lesson.

What
> paper have you found works well? I wonder if I should use the Matte paper

that
> works perfectly for prints of paintings. A 13 x 19 sheet runs me about

60c.
> That comes out to about 23c per 8.5 x 11. Does glossy have any advantage,

or is
> it no more than a long standing tradition?
>
> Neil
> Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
> http://www.carolwilsongallery.com


My all time favorite papers are from Ilford. I use Gallerie Classic Pearl,
a nice compromise between matte and glossy. Ilford Gallerie Smooth, both
glossy and pearl, is fully compatible with Epson pigmented inks, if that is
the way you want to go. Full-on matte, I use the same Epson Heavyweight
that you do.

--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com


 
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Mark B.
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      08-05-2004
"Nhmiller" <> wrote in message
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> >It's the paper. I use it for "contact sheets" but for serious printing,

I
> >avoid it like the plague. B&W prints sorta greenish on both my Epson 880
> >and Canon 9000. Magenta cast in color on my Canon, never tried it on my
> >Epson.
> >

>
> Thanks Skip. Too bad about the prints done so far, but I learned a lesson.

What
> paper have you found works well? I wonder if I should use the Matte paper

that
> works perfectly for prints of paintings. A 13 x 19 sheet runs me about

60c.
> That comes out to about 23c per 8.5 x 11. Does glossy have any advantage,

or is
> it no more than a long standing tradition?
>
> Neil
> Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
> http://www.carolwilsongallery.com



If I may jump in here, I have the 870 which is the 1280's little brother.
My favorite papers are Epson's own Premium Luster and Premium Semi-Gloss.
I've not tried third party papers.

Mark


 
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jimkramer
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      08-05-2004
"Skip M" <> wrote in message
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> "Nhmiller" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > >It's the paper. I use it for "contact sheets" but for serious

printing,
> I
> > >avoid it like the plague. B&W prints sorta greenish on both my Epson

880
> > >and Canon 9000. Magenta cast in color on my Canon, never tried it on

my
> > >Epson.
> > >

> >
> > Thanks Skip. Too bad about the prints done so far, but I learned a

lesson.
> What
> > paper have you found works well? I wonder if I should use the Matte

paper
> that
> > works perfectly for prints of paintings. A 13 x 19 sheet runs me about

> 60c.
> > That comes out to about 23c per 8.5 x 11. Does glossy have any

advantage,
> or is
> > it no more than a long standing tradition?
> >
> > Neil
> > Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
> > http://www.carolwilsongallery.com

>
> My all time favorite papers are from Ilford. I use Gallerie Classic

Pearl,
> a nice compromise between matte and glossy. Ilford Gallerie Smooth, both
> glossy and pearl, is fully compatible with Epson pigmented inks, if that

is
> the way you want to go. Full-on matte, I use the same Epson Heavyweight
> that you do.
>
> --
> Skip Middleton
> http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
>
>

I'll second the Ilford papers, but for scratch work I use the Epson Glossy
Photopaper, 9.4 mil, 120 sheets for $20 @ Costco.

Jim Kramer


 
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Nhmiller
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      08-05-2004
Regarding matte vs glossy or photo papers, the Epson 1280 driver gives choices
up to 1440 dpi for the matte heavyweight, but up to 2880 dpi for the glossy or
photo papers. For best quality photos, should I use papers that allow me to go
up to the 2880 setting?

Neil
Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
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Mark B.
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      08-06-2004

"Nhmiller" <> wrote in message
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> Regarding matte vs glossy or photo papers, the Epson 1280 driver gives

choices
> up to 1440 dpi for the matte heavyweight, but up to 2880 dpi for the

glossy or
> photo papers. For best quality photos, should I use papers that allow me

to go
> up to the 2880 setting?
>


I've not tried any, but I'm not sure you'll be able to tell the difference.
Get a pack of the paper and try it at both settings with the same image.

Mark


 
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