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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:16:04 -0500, Ron Hunter <>
wrote:

>Sabineellen wrote:
>
>> The terror alerts are just to steal the limelight from the democratic national
>> convention and Kerry, and remind people why they need to vote Bush. Expect them
>> to become a regular thing as elections near.
>>
>>
>
>Frankly, I hope you are right, because if you are WRONG, then alot of
>people will die.


A lot of people ARE dying. In IRAQ for no reason. Note the small
print the whitehouse doesn't want you to know: The computer was in
Pakistan, not IRAQ and was found BEFORE the democratic convention, not
yesterday.

> I am pretty sure that when Al Quieda people are
>questioned, they have a memorized list of 'plots' they can give away,
>but can we afford to NOT take them seriously?

If Bush were to actually be trying to stop terrorists instead of
getting revenge for his dad, things would likely be different than
they are now.

Instead, we're expected to give up more of our freedoms because the
administration's re-election campaign needs the boost.




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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 09:22:28 -0700, Randall Ainsworth
<> wrote:

>In article <>, Sabineellen
><> wrote:
>
>> The terror alerts are just to steal the limelight from the democratic national
>> convention and Kerry, and remind people why they need to vote Bush. Expect
>> them
>> to become a regular thing as elections near.
>
>No distraction needed. But if you'd rather that the dune coons won
>this thing, then keep your head up your ass.

Dune coons? Your ignorance is showing.
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Steve Young wrote:
> "Roger" <> wrote
>
>
>>SORRY!
>
>>This was meant for the political groups
>
> well, this is kind of a political group... in a way
>

Because you and some others have decided to make it so. Or do I misread
you, Steve?

In the past you have stated some objectives, but I wonder if you'd be
kind enough to restate them succinctly, here, without further crossposting.

Why did you add the other photo group? "Roger" whether sincere or not,
whether a sock or not, whatever, did not include it in his apology much
less his original post.

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"Roger" <> wrote in message
news:d%qPc.102841$. com...
> These are the same leaders and the same "intelligence community" that gave
> us:
>
> WMD
> 45 minutes to chemical weapon launch
> mass graves
> Saddam/Iraq involved in 911
>
> They have NO credibility. None.
>
> Anyone who believes them is a FOOL of the most gullible kind.

Do you have any idea how many threats have been averted because of
intelligence? I thought not. Nor will you and I ever know. Do you even
know what you are talking about? I thought not. But let me guess. You
aren't old enough to even vote.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 17:38:45 GMT, "Duffer" <>
wrote:

>
>"Roger" <> wrote in message
>news:d%qPc.102841$ .com...
>> These are the same leaders and the same "intelligence community" that gave
>> us:
>>
>> WMD
>> 45 minutes to chemical weapon launch
>> mass graves
>> Saddam/Iraq involved in 911
>>
>> They have NO credibility. None.
>>
>> Anyone who believes them is a FOOL of the most gullible kind.
>
>Do you have any idea how many threats have been averted because of
>intelligence? I thought not. Nor will you and I ever know.

So you admit it could be ZERO.

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"Roger" <> wrote in message news:<d%qPc.102841$ .com>...
> These are the same leaders and the same "intelligence community" that gave
> us:
>
> WMD

Well, it turns out that indeed Iraq WAS trying to buy yellowcake from
Niger. It turns out the liar there was Joe Wilson. The facilities,
data, and research to quickly churn out chemical weapons were found.
Banned offensive ballistic missle systems? They were there. Some
checmical-filled artillary shells? Found. Did they sneak off to
Syria? Probably.

> 45 minutes to chemical weapon launch

Where, exactly did you read this?

> mass graves

An estimated 300,000 graves have been found. That's 300,000 dead,
Tex. How many dead before you act? 1,000,000? How about a nice
round Holicaust number like 6,000,000?

> Saddam/Iraq involved in 911

No, that was never said. You can repeat the lie that this was
suggested, but alas, no.

>
> They have NO credibility. None.

Of course, however, if something WOULD happen and the public wasn't
notified, you'd go on ad naseum crying about "why weren't we told" and
"who knew what and when."

Face it - every single politician - yes, John Kerry, John Edwards,
Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, et al, saw the same intelligence prior to
the Iraqi war and thought it was credible. Did anybody tamper with
it? According to both the US 9/11 commission and the British
investigation in pre-war intelligence, no.
>
> Anyone who believes them is a FOOL of the most gullible kind.

Consider the source.

"Duffer" <> wrote in message
news:F_uPc.163623$ .com...
>
> "Roger" <> wrote in message
> news:d%qPc.102841$. com...
> > These are the same leaders and the same "intelligence community" that
gave
> > us:
> >
> > WMD
> > 45 minutes to chemical weapon launch
> > mass graves
> > Saddam/Iraq involved in 911
> >
> > They have NO credibility. None.
> >
> > Anyone who believes them is a FOOL of the most gullible kind.
>
> Do you have any idea how many threats have been averted because of
> intelligence? I thought not. Nor will you and I ever know. Do you even
> know what you are talking about? I thought not. But let me guess. You
> aren't old enough to even vote.
>
Or are those averted threats merely propaganda? The USA Homeland Security
seem to issue so many alerts, it's now like the boy who cried wolf. It is
when documented that the USA Integence Communities failed to realize 9/11
was going to happen.

Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:16:04 -0500, Ron Hunter <>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Sabineellen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The terror alerts are just to steal the limelight from the democratic national
>>>convention and Kerry, and remind people why they need to vote Bush. Expect them
>>>to become a regular thing as elections near.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Frankly, I hope you are right, because if you are WRONG, then alot of
>>people will die.
>
>
>
> A lot of people ARE dying. In IRAQ for no reason. Note the small
> print the whitehouse doesn't want you to know: The computer was in
> Pakistan, not IRAQ and was found BEFORE the democratic convention, not
> yesterday.
>
>
>> I am pretty sure that when Al Quieda people are
>>questioned, they have a memorized list of 'plots' they can give away,
>>but can we afford to NOT take them seriously?
>
>
> If Bush were to actually be trying to stop terrorists instead of
> getting revenge for his dad, things would likely be different than
> they are now.
>
> Instead, we're expected to give up more of our freedoms because the
> administration's re-election campaign needs the boost.
>
>
>
>
It must be sad to be so negatively oriented to your own government.
Perhaps you would be happier someplace where you can believe in, and
trust your government.

Darrell Larose wrote:

> "Duffer" <> wrote in message
> news:F_uPc.163623$ .com...
>
>>"Roger" <> wrote in message
>>news:d%qPc.102841$ y.com...
>>
>>>These are the same leaders and the same "intelligence community" that
>
> gave
>
>>>us:
>>>
>>>WMD
>>>45 minutes to chemical weapon launch
>>>mass graves
>>>Saddam/Iraq involved in 911
>>>
>>>They have NO credibility. None.
>>>
>>>Anyone who believes them is a FOOL of the most gullible kind.
>>
>>Do you have any idea how many threats have been averted because of
>>intelligence? I thought not. Nor will you and I ever know. Do you even
>>know what you are talking about? I thought not. But let me guess. You
>>aren't old enough to even vote.
>>
>
> Or are those averted threats merely propaganda? The USA Homeland Security
> seem to issue so many alerts, it's now like the boy who cried wolf. It is
> when documented that the USA Integence Communities failed to realize 9/11
> was going to happen.
>
>
Yes, and now you seem to think we should bury our heads in the sand, and
because we don't SEE anything happening, we are safe? IF Bush did that,
you would be right at the head of the line demanding he DO SOMETHING,
were we attacked again, right? Of course you would!

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 13:41:08 -0500, Ron Hunter <>
wrote:

>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:16:04 -0500, Ron Hunter <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sabineellen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The terror alerts are just to steal the limelight from the democratic national
>>>>convention and Kerry, and remind people why they need to vote Bush. Expect them
>>>>to become a regular thing as elections near.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Frankly, I hope you are right, because if you are WRONG, then alot of
>>>people will die.
>>
>>
>>
>> A lot of people ARE dying. In IRAQ for no reason. Note the small
>> print the whitehouse doesn't want you to know: The computer was in
>> Pakistan, not IRAQ and was found BEFORE the democratic convention, not
>> yesterday.
>>
>>
>>> I am pretty sure that when Al Quieda people are
>>>questioned, they have a memorized list of 'plots' they can give away,
>>>but can we afford to NOT take them seriously?
>>
>>
>> If Bush were to actually be trying to stop terrorists instead of
>> getting revenge for his dad, things would likely be different than
>> they are now.
>>
>> Instead, we're expected to give up more of our freedoms because the
>> administration's re-election campaign needs the boost.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>It must be sad to be so negatively oriented to your own government.

Yes, it is too bad our government is turning against us under the
premise of security. What's sadder is that some, apparently you
included, think it's just fine and dandy.


>Perhaps you would be happier someplace where you can believe in, and
>trust your government.

Yes, that's why I'm working hard to eject the current administration
so we can go back to being a strong nation, not one cowering in a
corner.