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I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?

Who has (had) it here?

Jimmy

"Jimmy Smith" <> wrote in message
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> I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
> owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
> people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?
>
> Who has (had) it here?
>
> Jimmy

I had an early model that suffered the problem.
It was replaced by a later one, which is perfect.

I am convinced that a great many folk complain of a focus problem, but
actually have a perfect camera. For many shooters, this is their first
exposure to an slr. For those new folk who also bought a fast (large
aperture) lens, they may be totally baffled by the shalow depth of focus
when shooting a lens wide open, and may then blame the camera.

Also... The 10D comes from the factory set so that the camera tries to
automatically select a focus point. Many people keep it in this mode not
realizing what is going on. When the camrea chooses the wrong point (which
it of course will, often), they assume there's something wrong again.

I am 100% convinced that the problem was limited to early production only.
All 10Ds I've seen save for the first ones have been fine.

-Mark

>From: "Jimmy Smith"

>I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
>owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
>people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?
>
>Who has (had) it here?

My wife has a 10D that I sometimes use and it focusses fine, but there's no
doubt some do have a problem.

Here's a good write-up on the problem, with a test to see how your camera fares
....

http://www.photo.net/learn/focustest/

Bill

In article <GdQxc.5156$>,
says...
> I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
> owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
> people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?
>
> Who has (had) it here?
>
> Jimmy

I think the problem is rare, and somewhat overblown. If anyone is
worried about front or back focus, a simple test using a printed test
sheet and a tripod will put the issue to rest.

In article <GdQxc.5156$>, Jimmy Smith
<> wrote:

> I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
> owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
> people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?
>
> Who has (had) it here?

Got mine last May and it's tack sharp. Disabled all the AF points
except the center and it works like a dream.

"Jimmy Smith" <> wrote in message
news:GdQxc.5156$...
> I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
> owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
> people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?
>
> Who has (had) it here?
>
> Jimmy
>
>
The camera is a piece of crap and any accurately focused images are purely
coincidental, at least that has been my experience with the 10D. It is an
amateur camera and is not at all sophisticated in it's focusing system,
quite the opposite. The focusing screen is also quite poor so manual
focusing is also not very accurate. I make these comparisons to an EOS 1V
which I find to be the opposite and extremely accurate, but then the 1V is
designed and built to a higher standard.
JJ

Jimmy Smith wrote:

> I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
> owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
> people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?

A while back a small group of people (or perhaps one person) flooded all the
major Canon forums on the net with 'focus complaints'. He / they would subscribe
to these groups under many names making the issue seem much worse than it really was.

A small number of cameras actually did have a focus problem. That is a fact,
but they were fixed under warranty. It was a real thing, but it was blown *far*
out of proportion.

This person/group gave up after a while and (not surprisingly) the "focus problem"
seems to have vanished It's rarely brought up anymore.

I have a 10D. I've had it a year.. It focuses just fine..

In article <ca8qmp$1nqt$>, John J
<> wrote:

> The camera is a piece of crap and any accurately focused images are purely
> coincidental, at least that has been my experience with the 10D. It is an
> amateur camera and is not at all sophisticated in it's focusing system,
> quite the opposite. The focusing screen is also quite poor so manual
> focusing is also not very accurate. I make these comparisons to an EOS 1V
> which I find to be the opposite and extremely accurate, but then the 1V is
> designed and built to a higher standard.

As one who has used pretty much every brand of camera in 35mm and
medium format for the past 30+ years...uh...you are the one full of
crap.

The 10D is well made and well designed. There is nothing wrong with
the focusing system. The focusing screen, like all DSLRs is very fine
and somewhat difficult to use for manual focusing. The days of split
image and microprism screens is gone.

Kibo informs me that "John J" <> stated that:

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>"Jimmy Smith" <> wrote in message
>news:GdQxc.5156$.. .
>> I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
>> owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
>> people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?
>>
>> Who has (had) it here?
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>The camera is a piece of crap and any accurately focused images are purely
>coincidental, at least that has been my experience with the 10D.

Rubbish. Mine works perfectly, as do those of several other
photographers I know. I haven't yet met someone who's had any focussing
problems with the 10D.

> It is an
>amateur camera

Then why do so many professionals own 10Ds?

> and is not at all sophisticated in it's focusing system,
>quite the opposite.

It's famous for its ability to focus in poor light, & it's extremely
fast in good lighting.

> The focusing screen is also quite poor so manual
>focusing is also not very accurate.

Well, that part I agree with. I would really like to be able to change
focussing screens in mine.

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Kibo informs me that "Jimmy Smith" <> stated that:

>I hear the front focus or the back focus problem. Can this also be in the
>owners head? Maybe the camera is just a bit too sophisticated for some
>people or is there really a prevelant problem? Or is it rare?
>
>Who has (had) it here?

Not me. Mine works perfectly, & so do those of every other 10D user I've
ever met (quite a few 10D users in my city).
The only 'problem' I've ever run into is that the default setting of
7-point auto-selection focus points is an inappropriate choice for most
of my photography. IMO, locking to the centre-point only is much more
useful for general photography.

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