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"Jonathan Wilson" <> wrote in message
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> We've all seen the works of the guy (whos name escapes me, my bad!) of
> the cambels soup, and the grid of maralin monroe pics in different
> colours.....
>
> There was some recient work of his "found" basically the same theme
> but he'd used a pen to draw some squiggles arround the results.
>
> Would he have been noted as an artist in this modern age, especially
> with his posterisation work concidering that the exact same result can
> be had with just ">filter>posterize"
>
> Or was there something else... after all a couple of clicks within a
> graphics package can be done in the dark room... just sometimes takes
> a little longer!
>
> Cloneing, removing items, placing new items, bluring, dodging/burning
> (can you sharpen in a dark room?) increasing apparent DOF, all these
> can be done... so where does the art start, and the fiddler end?
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Wilson.
> www.somethingerotic.com

in matters of relativity over absolutes the answer lies with the questing
questioner

ah - grass hopper

Andy was certainly shot to death but NOT by UV, but by a lowlife lezz.
It's interesting: perhaps your modern image app contains the features it
does BECAUSE Warhol went to the trouble back then of getting into
hi-contrast silkscreen film. These materials were available to every graphic
artist, but Andy, with his appropriated images and centrality to the NY
art/music scene, made them universally accepted.
So start looking for image manipulation that YOU think is new and great, and
get moving!

My interview with Andy
Here is the story.

We had an iffy school newspaper called the RISD Rag or some such. It was
a monthly at best. Filled with short essays and letters, it gave a good
idea what was on people's minds. I was a journalist in high school so I
contributed stories now and then.
When we heard that Warhol was curating a show at our museum, our
feelings were mixed: that was a lot of money (30 grand?) that could have
gone to scholarships, but it also brought some spotlight to the
conservative though excellent museum I visited very often. The show was
called "Raiding the Basement" I believe. All museums have a ton of
materials not on view, and Andy would go through these and put a show
together. We were not aware he was already an incurable flea-market
shopper.

Back then we were highly wrought over Vietnam and Textron's profiting
from it, and had just been confronted with the news that Rhode Islanders
basically didn't come to the college for financial reasons. We wanted to
have a demonstration that would be noticed.
We were not aware that the endowment that supported the School had to be
split down the middle with the Museum. This made for a poor school and a
rich museum. President Rantoul, generally disrespected already, didn't
like informing us of school business issues, although he changed later.

When Andy Warhol arrived to be interviewed by the news media at the
museum, I just walked in, nodding to the guards I knew by name. A lady
stopped me as I arrived at the Courtyard and asked what I was doing, who
I was, etc. I said "press" and she asked for my credentials. I said,
"the school newspaper, and we really have no credentials." She said the
museum was happy to cooperate with the school, and in I went.
Andy was sitting on a stool, unmoving, in a floodlight, accompanied by
one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen, a slender cafe-au-lait
model with glossy uncolored lips. Carol? perhaps. The lights lit Andy's
eyes the most intense blue I had ever seen as well. This was before I
had heard of colored contact lenses, and I would like to know if he had
them then.
The main interview was done by a local TV newsman in a rather hip
brightly-colored shirt and tie. He asked questions of Andy, but Andy was
silent. Carol answered as best she could. Another journalist, from the
Pro Jo perhaps, was also there.
The TV newsman was getting frustrated. The questions concerned modern
art, pop art, the museum, Andy's Factory perhaps. The only question that
Andy perked up and answered was about driving here from New York; he had
enjoyed the scenery. Finally the hip-looking newsman asked, "It's all a
big joke to you, isn't it, Andy?" Andy looked concerned. Carol said,
"Oh, no, it's not a joke."
The floodlights went out. The other journalist asked, "So what did you
think of the Merritt Parkway?" [Connecticut alternative to I-95].
I approached Andy and identified myself. He was completely attentive as
we walked out together. I asked about the money he was being paid. He
said it was being donated by wealthy Rhode Islanders; the money had
never been in the general fund. "We'll be having a demonstration
tonight, at the opening, to support the Send a Rhody to RISD campaign,
and it's too late to call it off," I told him.
"I love demonstrations!!" gently cried Andy. Everything he had said and
done was very gentle and minimal. I asked him to confirm some snackbar
mythology, that he had attended RISD for a while, and drawn only shoes.
He demurred, "I never went here."
That was about it. We shook hands, which was like grasping a weak
butterfly, Carol was back at his side, and I was walking out alone.
Friends of mine standing at the door, far hipper folks than I,
congratulated me.
The demonstration that evening was a happy, boisterous conga-line with
chanting and signs through the gallery, which was dimly-lit to resemble
the basement. I recall dozens of very old shoes and stacks of plates and
second-rate paintings.
The next year we had a few Rhodies on special scholarship at school. But
the saga of Fred Very will have to wait for another day.


Hope you can use this. I tried to give enough background to put things
in context. Please do not delete reference to Textron, that was
important then. I personally had little knowledge of or regard for
Andy's pop art, the silkscreens, the long dull movies, at the time.

Dan Spector
BFA-ID 1973

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>From: "Andrew Martinez" <>
>To: <>
>Subject: Re: Andy in 1972
>Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2002, 2:22 PM
>

> Dear Dan Spector,
>
> This sounds exciting! I am very much interested in your Andy Warhol
> interview. Is this something that you taped? Is it transcribed? In
> what capacity were you interviewing Warhol? I would also appreciate
> hearing your thoughts on how the interview went and your impressions of
> Warhol, his entourage, and the show. There is a good chance that we can
> add this material to the 125th section of RISD's website.
>
> I look forward to your reply.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andrew Martinez
> Archivist
> Rhode Island School of Design
> 2 College Street
> Providence, RI 02903
> (401) 454-6398
>
>

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In article <>, R. Makul
<> wrote:


>
>
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 02:17:06 GMT, "Darrell Larose" <>
> wrote:
>
>>The artist's name is Andy Warhol, he was a cultural icon of the 1960's-70's.
>>Art is in the eye of the beholder. I never felt all that inspired by his
>>work, but that too is art. Do a Google search and you'll find all sorts of
>>info on the man.
>>
>>http://images.google.com/images?q=An...&ie=UTF-8&safe
=off&s
> a=N&tab=wi
>>
> =============
> His work was in part a social commentary on the times in which he
> lived. I think a lot of the digital enhancements to pictures that
> people try to achieve today is achieve a Warhol look and effect.
>
> The man led a strange and interesting personal life. I have heard
> that, later in life, his hair was a hair piece that attached to his
> scalp via "snaps" or some other such mechanical connection device that
> involved surgically embedding the scalp side mechanics into his skin.
>
> I believe he also suffered a serious gun shot wound from one of his
> underground movie actresses, "Ultra Violet".
>

"Jonathan Wilson" <> wrote in message
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> But i can see a potential serious side... its all subjective to the
> perspective of the viewer

Indeed, but even if Andy Warhol ****ed on some of his paintings, after
digesting vitamin B pills because they added a distinct yelow color, he
added a different look to his images... A true artist.

All the rest in in the eye of the beholder (and if many agree, it becomes
art).

Bart

"Bart van der Wolf" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Jonathan Wilson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> SNIP
> > But i can see a potential serious side... its all subjective to the
> > perspective of the viewer
>
> Indeed, but even if Andy Warhol ****ed on some of his paintings, after
> digesting vitamin B pills because they added a distinct yelow color, he
> added a different look to his images... A true artist.
>
> All the rest in in the eye of the beholder (and if many agree, it becomes
> art).
>
> Bart
>
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Do 'ya think it might work in the final fixer? Do 'ya? Huh?

The "art" of photography. LOL

Jorunalist