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ArtKramr
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      05-16-2004
Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera they use.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
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bagal
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      05-16-2004
I agree entirely Art

The finished product is more (IMHO) about aesthetics than techicalities.

Quite a few people look at a Rembrant and highlight the type of brush,
composition of brush and pigment minerals.

Besides, logically if there was one great camera it would automatically
there were no great photographs before the great camera came into existence

Bcubed

"ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
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> Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera they

use.
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
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      05-16-2004
>Subject: Re: Great photographers.....
>From: "bagal"
>Date: 5/16/04 9:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <5uNpc.720$>
>
>I agree entirely Art
>
>The finished product is more (IMHO) about aesthetics than techicalities.
>
>Quite a few people look at a Rembrant and highlight the type of brush,
>composition of brush and pigment minerals.
>
>Besides, logically if there was one great camera it would automatically
>there were no great photographs before the great camera came into existence
>
>Bcubed
>
>"ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera they

>use.
>>
>>
>> Arthur Kramer
>> 344th BG 494th BS
>> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
>> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
>> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>>

>
>


I think that what matters is vision, imagination and creativity. The camera is
the least of it all.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
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Tony Spadaro
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      05-16-2004
And bad photographers will continue to blather about great photographers for
the rest of their lives while still not taking a single good picture. Why
did you change email address? Found out everyone has you in their killfile?

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"ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
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> Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera they

use.
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>



 
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bagal
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      05-16-2004
ermm? moi?
<innocent whistle>

i'll get my coat?


"Tony Spadaro" <> wrote in message
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> And bad photographers will continue to blather about great photographers

for
> the rest of their lives while still not taking a single good picture. Why
> did you change email address? Found out everyone has you in their

killfile?
>
> --
> http://www.chapelhillnoir.com
> home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
> The Improved Links Pages are at
> http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
> A sample chapter from my novel "Haight-Ashbury" is at
> http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html
> "ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera

they
> use.
> >
> >
> > Arthur Kramer
> > 344th BG 494th BS
> > England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> > Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> > http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
> >

>
>



 
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MikeS
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      05-16-2004

"bagal" <> wrote in message
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> ermm? moi?
> <innocent whistle>
>
> i'll get my coat?
>
>
> "Tony Spadaro" <> wrote in message
> news:7eNpc.49125$ om...
> > And bad photographers will continue to blather about great photographers

> for
> > the rest of their lives while still not taking a single good picture.

Why
> > did you change email address? Found out everyone has you in their

> killfile?
> >
> > --
> > http://www.chapelhillnoir.com
> > home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
> > The Improved Links Pages are at
> > http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
> > A sample chapter from my novel "Haight-Ashbury" is at
> > http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html
> > "ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera

> they
> > use.
> > >
> > >
> > > Arthur Kramer
> > > 344th BG 494th BS
> > > England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> > > Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> > > http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
> > >

> >
> >

>
> This discussion is beginning to grate!

MikeS


 
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Mike Jacoubowsky
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      05-16-2004
> Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera they
use.

Absolutely true. However, there still might be a right & wrong camera for a
given person. The right camera is the one that has something about it that
makes you want to take pictures. For some people, that might be anything
with a lens and a shutter release. For others, it might be something small
enough to carry in their pocket, or a long-enough lens to catch their kids
competing at a track meet. Different people are motivated by different
things.

I didn't get much into taking photos until digital came out, and I was able
to get reasonable images out of something that would fit into my jersey
pocket while riding a bike. Before those requirements could be met, I
didn't have a whole lot of interest in taking photos. And, if I didn't take
a whole lot of photos, I'd never learn what works and what doesn't. Not
that I'm a great photographer by *any* stretch of imagination, but I'm
certainly taking better photos now than I did some years ago.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


 
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      05-16-2004
>Subject: Re: Great photographers.....
>From: "Mike Jacoubowsky"
>Date: 5/16/04 1:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <M4Qpc.67766$ m>
>
>> Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera they

>use.
>
>Absolutely true. However, there still might be a right & wrong camera for a
>given person. The right camera is the one that has something about it that
>makes you want to take pictures. For some people, that might be anything
>with a lens and a shutter release. For others, it might be something small
>enough to carry in their pocket, or a long-enough lens to catch their kids
>competing at a track meet. Different people are motivated by different
>things.
>
>I didn't get much into taking photos until digital came out, and I was able
>to get reasonable images out of something that would fit into my jersey
>pocket while riding a bike. Before those requirements could be met, I
>didn't have a whole lot of interest in taking photos. And, if I didn't take
>a whole lot of photos, I'd never learn what works and what doesn't. Not
>that I'm a great photographer by *any* stretch of imagination, but I'm
>certainly taking better photos now than I did some years ago.
>
>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>



What you say is all too true. But I think back many years to when I was writing
a regular monthly column for Modern Photography Magazine. At that t time a
photographer no one had ever heard of named Duane Michaels broke into print
with a wonderful pictures tory in Life magazine. He went on a trip to Russia
and since he was a body- builder by hobby, he visited various Gyms and made a
lot of shots. We had lunch one day and he told me he never wanted tro be a
photographer. It just happened. Before he went to Russia he figured he ought to
take a camera. Knowing nothing he bought an Argus CV-3 for $15.00 ( used) and
one roll of film. After he left for to russia he started shootign his gym
shots and the only film he could get was Russian film, most of which was
outdated. He had no exposure meter so he used the guide directions on the
filmbox. . The images were superb He had a talent that he never realised he
had., The rest is history since Duane stands as one of the notable
photojournalists of the 20th century. And all it took was talent, a good eye,
a sense of the dramatic and an Argus C-3. I never forgot that. Cameras don't
take pictures. photographers do.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
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      05-17-2004

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <> wrote in message
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> > Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera

they
> use.
>
> Absolutely true. However, there still might be a right & wrong camera for

a
> given person. The right camera is the one that has something about it

that
> makes you want to take pictures. For some people, that might be anything
> with a lens and a shutter release. For others, it might be something

small
> enough to carry in their pocket, or a long-enough lens to catch their kids
> competing at a track meet. Different people are motivated by different
> things.
>
> I didn't get much into taking photos until digital came out, and I was

able
> to get reasonable images out of something that would fit into my jersey
> pocket while riding a bike. Before those requirements could be met, I
> didn't have a whole lot of interest in taking photos. And, if I didn't

take
> a whole lot of photos, I'd never learn what works and what doesn't. Not
> that I'm a great photographer by *any* stretch of imagination, but I'm
> certainly taking better photos now than I did some years ago.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
> Hi Mike,



Although I'm from the little ole UK ( using the translator from star trek) I
roger that.

I have been into photography for ten years now and it was not until I was
give a 2800 Fuji 2mp camera did my photography improve. Much of it was due
to the immediate feed back using the zoom to review shots etc. discarding
bad shots, meant most shots where unable. Where I would use 5 rolls of film
I how get away with a 1gb solid state memory chip with D70 when I can afford
it I will get another. I have thought of going into a Internet Cafe (when
abroad in say France or the USA) and burning pics to a CD's so freeing up
memory, as I dont have lap-top.
My suggestion to anyone wanting to learn how to take good photographs is to
go digital, leave the dark room to the high street processors or use them to
print from the cameras memory chip or CD, you don't even have to own a
computer.
MikeS


 
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      05-17-2004
>Subject: Re: Great photographers.....
>From: "MikeS"
>Date: 5/17/04 1:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <%p_pc.1943$>
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>
>"Mike Jacoubowsky" <> wrote in message
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>> > Great photographers will make great pictures regardless of the camera

>they
>> use.
>>
>> Absolutely true. However, there still might be a right & wrong camera for

>a
>> given person. The right camera is the one that has something about it

>that
>> makes you want to take pictures. For some people, that might be anything
>> with a lens and a shutter release. For others, it might be something

>small
>> enough to carry in their pocket, or a long-enough lens to catch their kids
>> competing at a track meet. Different people are motivated by different
>> things.
>>
>> I didn't get much into taking photos until digital came out, and I was

>able
>> to get reasonable images out of something that would fit into my jersey
>> pocket while riding a bike. Before those requirements could be met, I
>> didn't have a whole lot of interest in taking photos. And, if I didn't

>take
>> a whole lot of photos, I'd never learn what works and what doesn't. Not
>> that I'm a great photographer by *any* stretch of imagination, but I'm
>> certainly taking better photos now than I did some years ago.
>>
>> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>>
>> Hi Mike,

>
>
>Although I'm from the little ole UK ( using the translator from star trek) I
>roger that.
>
>I have been into photography for ten years now and it was not until I was
>give a 2800 Fuji 2mp camera did my photography improve. Much of it was due
>to the immediate feed back using the zoom to review shots etc. discarding
>bad shots, meant most shots where unable. Where I would use 5 rolls of film
>I how get away with a 1gb solid state memory chip with D70 when I can afford
>it I will get another. I have thought of going into a Internet Cafe (when
>abroad in say France or the USA) and burning pics to a CD's so freeing up
>memory, as I dont have lap-top.
>My suggestion to anyone wanting to learn how to take good photographs is to
>go digital, leave the dark room to the high street processors or use them to
>print from the cameras memory chip or CD, you don't even have to own a
>computer.
>MikeS
>
>
>

Wish I had a digital camera in WW II. (sigh)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
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