"Mike Russell" <> wrote in message
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> Enacting that fantasy would also destroy everything we're trying to do in
> Iraq.
>
> But you know something, we will do plenty. Starting with setting up a
> perimeter, and rounding up every single face on that video tape. "Oh
> gosh, I was dancing on top of that car because I didn't want to make waves
> with the bad guys." Uh huh.
Yeah, that's the way it's going to start. But Fallujah (pop. 225,000) is
big enough to swallow an army, and if anti-American sentiment is as strong
as the man-in-the-street interviews have indicated, the rules of engagement
will quickly go out the window as the U.S. casualties start piling up when
each and every house has to be fought for.
A sample of the on-the-street voices:
"Kill all Americans" (old man)
"All Americans deserve to die" (young woman)
"I want to kill Americans" (young boy)
"America will submit to the will of Allah" (imam)
Turn on any news channel and you'll hear the same **** over and over and
over and over. Only the faces change.
You can't force democracy on people who don't want it, and even these
so-called "Islamic democracies" are jokes compared our definition in the
West. The militaries have to periodically move in and take over the
government in Algeria and Turkey just to keep a lid on the fundamentalist
Islamic pressure cooker. Bring free elections to the Islamic poor and
they'll elect death-to-America demagogues. If democracy came to Saudi
Arabia, Osama bin Laden would be elected by a landslide. He's more popular
among the masses than Crown Prince Abdullah, and the same can be said for
the Muslim world at large.
One undeniable truism about Muslims: They cheered when their Islamic
brothers collected their 72 virgins on 9/11. They don't give a **** about
the West. I don't give a **** about the Muslims.
Whether they are gathering camel dung in the desert or pounding out doctoral
dissertations at Harvard, Oxford, or Heidelberg, there is one common
denominator: They all agree that "the great satan had it coming," and for
that they deserve whatever fate befalls them. Deportation, liquidation, it
won't matter. They will have brought it on themselves.
Here's a little something I posted last year in another NG, just in case you
missed it:
Want to know why the Arab world is so ****ed up, and will STAY ****ed up?
I'll let an Arab explain it. It takes about three minutes to read:
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020909/asalem.html
These two paragraphs in particular:
"In my part of the world, the Arab Middle East, a great tragedy results from
our governments' well-intentioned attempts to cure society of extremism
through education. These leaders, however, don't teach what they should to
produce the values they want. They seek moderation and enforce piety. They
seek citizens who value life, yet their school curriculums exalt the value
of science and ignore philosophy and history and the liberal, humanistic
values they embody. That is why those who excel in such a system are no less
immune to the call of extremism.
"Our governments assume that people need to understand Islam in its purest
form to stay religiously moderate. The result is the mass production of true
believers, not good citizens. Because people initially welcome the imposed
piety but then gradually realize it doesn't equip them to meet the
challenges of getting through life, life becomes a morbid burden. To shake
off this burden, some of them, usually young men, can't wait for natural
death and decide instead to take a short cut to heaven."
Yeah, man, bowing toward Mecca five times a day and doing anything and
everything according to holy scriptures works in a medievel society, but the
rest of something called the REAL WORLD is in the 21st Century, and
adherents to the will of Allah are utterly and totally unprepared to deal
with it. Once upon a time we in the West were in the Middle Ages, but then
the Renaissance and the Reformation sent science and religion down their
separate paths. The Islamic world had a great astronomer -- I think his
name was Ulug Beq of Samarkand -- who predated Galileo, but he was put to
death for his "blasphemy" and Europe all but left the Muslim world in the
dust. It's been that way ever since.
It comes as no surprise that Mohammed Atta had a graduate degree in
engineering. Yasser Arafat has one, too. It seems that the best and
brightest that the Islamic world has to offer can't handle living in a
secular society, so rather than trying to elevate themselves to the level of
the West, they'd rather drag the rest of the world down to their level.
That sentence, "They feel like dwarfs, which is why they search for towers
and all those who tower mightily," is a pretty good summation of those who
can't wait to shoot down Marine Corps One or take out the Hoover Dam or the
port of San Pedro.
Eventually those who want a shortcut to their 72 virgins will get their wish
when some mass act of terror throws the world economy into a nosedive and
the Great Depression repeats itself. The developed world will have had
enough of Islam by then, and as soon as the rest of the "infidel" nations
can struggle back onto their feet the result will be Civilization War One,
which will actually be a misnomer, because it will be little more than the
greatest genocide in history, a removal of Islam from the face of the earth.
A technologically advanced society will not be able to function if it is
constantly under attack, so whatever steps are necessary, no matter how
extreme, will be used to bring things back to normal. It won't require
invading armies, just the dispersal of chemical agents via UAVs, to remove
entire populations. And after having already endured years of terrorist
chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear depredations, the citizens
of the West will react to the news with no more alarm than spraying for
roaches.
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