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Neither the Pro 1 nor the S1 can be considered a successor for the G
series like some threads in the Canon Talk were suggesting.
One gets too big, the other gives away important features like lens
speed and uncompressed file.
The Pro 1 seems aimed at knocking down the Sony f828, in the bigger
cameras arena.
The S1 appears aimed at fighting two specific competitors: the Oly 750
and the Panasonic Lumix, both also with their own limiting issues.

There's such an evident gap between those two, which is exactly where
a new G model would fit, so it seems logical now that there will be a
new G.

Questions are: when, and which features will be added, and which
improvements will still be lacking.

The other up-and-coming competitor will
be the new 8MP Minolta A2 ... don't forget
that ...
Alex

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> Neither the Pro 1 nor the S1 can be considered a successor for the G
> series like some threads in the Canon Talk were suggesting.
> One gets too big, the other gives away important features like lens
> speed and uncompressed file.
> The Pro 1 seems aimed at knocking down the Sony f828, in the bigger
> cameras arena.
> The S1 appears aimed at fighting two specific competitors: the Oly 750
> and the Panasonic Lumix, both also with their own limiting issues.
>
> There's such an evident gap between those two, which is exactly where
> a new G model would fit, so it seems logical now that there will be a
> new G.
>
> Questions are: when, and which features will be added, and which
> improvements will still be lacking.
>
>
>

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news:...
>
>
> Neither the Pro 1 nor the S1 can be considered a successor for the G
> series like some threads in the Canon Talk were suggesting.
> One gets too big, the other gives away important features like lens
> speed and uncompressed file.
> The Pro 1 seems aimed at knocking down the Sony f828, in the bigger
> cameras arena.
> The S1 appears aimed at fighting two specific competitors: the Oly 750
> and the Panasonic Lumix, both also with their own limiting issues.
>
> There's such an evident gap between those two, which is exactly where
> a new G model would fit, so it seems logical now that there will be a
> new G.
>
> Questions are: when, and which features will be added, and which
> improvements will still be lacking.
>
>
>

The Pro1 has been dubbed the 'G8'. I'm pretty sure this is the successor to
the G series. I'm hoping this is wrong, because the Pro1 is out of my price
range as a replacement for the G1.

Mark

Mark B. wrote:

> The Pro1 has been dubbed the 'G8'. I'm pretty sure this is the successor to
> the G series. I'm hoping this is wrong, because the Pro1 is out of my price
> range as a replacement for the G1.

I don't see the Pro1 as a G5 successor at all, just as the F828 isn't
the followup to the DSC-V1.

I'd say there's three ways Canon could go with the G5 when it comes
to a replacement:
"G5.1" - an incremental improvement with the same sensor and lens
as the 5 but with some better features - like the A305 and A75
"G6" - as above but with 6 meg 1/1.8 sensor
"G8" - as above but with 8 meg 2/3 sensor

I think an improved G5 is the most likely if the camera is going to
appear at PMA, but if the replacement isn't going to be until later
the temptation to up the pixel count will increase.

- Len

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Add two wishes to the list :

- smaller body
- less shutter lag
- more zoom
- keep the fast lens


Leonard <> wrote:
>I'd say there's three ways Canon could go with the G5 when it comes
>to a replacement:
>"G5.1" - an incremental improvement with the same sensor and lens
>as the 5 but with some better features - like the A305 and A75
>"G6" - as above but with 6 meg 1/1.8 sensor
>"G8" - as above but with 8 meg 2/3 sensor
>
>I think an improved G5 is the most likely if the camera is going to
>appear at PMA, but if the replacement isn't going to be until later
>the temptation to up the pixel count will increase.

"Leonard" <> wrote in message
news:5x3Wb.211$...
> Mark B. wrote:
>
> > The Pro1 has been dubbed the 'G8'. I'm pretty sure this is the
successor to
> > the G series. I'm hoping this is wrong, because the Pro1 is out of my
price
> > range as a replacement for the G1.
>
> I don't see the Pro1 as a G5 successor at all, just as the F828 isn't
> the followup to the DSC-V1.
>
> I'd say there's three ways Canon could go with the G5 when it comes
> to a replacement:
> "G5.1" - an incremental improvement with the same sensor and lens
> as the 5 but with some better features - like the A305 and A75
> "G6" - as above but with 6 meg 1/1.8 sensor
> "G8" - as above but with 8 meg 2/3 sensor
>
> I think an improved G5 is the most likely if the camera is going to
> appear at PMA, but if the replacement isn't going to be until later
> the temptation to up the pixel count will increase.
>
> - Len
>

Whether or not we see it as a successor to the G-series may not matter.
Read this thread on dpreview:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=7590206

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Thanks for the thread shortcut.
Well, at least someone over there agrees with me about an empty spot :


>If you look at Canon's offerings so far this year there's a gigantic
>6MP hole waiting to be filled.


My guess is: if Canon does not release a follow-up model to the G
series then it will be leaving a whole market share to Olympus and
Sony and their possible follow-us to, say, the C-5050 and the VSC-1.
Many people in that thread just don't realize the form/size factor.
Many people who chose a G camera could instead have gone with a better
and BIGGER camera, and would love to see a better but not bigger
model.
The Pro1 and S1 are totally different animals, hold no relation to the
G series. Maybe Canon does have a G6 project in the drawer but is
still evaluating the market for it, especially since the G5 wasn't a
hit as were the previous Gs in their respective times. Maybe they plan
on launching it, just not yet now.




"Mark B." <> wrote:

>Whether or not we see it as a successor to the G-series may not matter.
>Read this thread on dpreview:
>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=7590206

wrote:

> SNIP.....
> The Pro1 and S1 are totally different animals, hold no relation
> to the G series.
> SNIP....

When looking carefully at the design of the PRO1 it is except for lens and
sensor almost identical to the G-series. The layout of the buttons has been
shuffled around a bit but the functionality and menu structured has been
kept.

Even the lens and sensor are keeping in line with the underlying
'philosophy' of the Gs to give an excellent quality camera into the hand of
the casual user.
True, the G5 lagged a bit behind, it should rather have be named 'G 4.1'

Overall I think that the the PRO1 will appeal very much to the type of
G-users even more so as the fine usability of the G-design has been kept
instead of being scrapped for just another novelty gag.

Guenter

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That is good reasoning, although:
It's gotten considerably heavier: 640 grams Vs 490 grams on the G5.
It's also thicker, to approach more the likes of say a Fuji 7000 than
of the Gs.
I bet many G users would rather go with a f2.0 lens in lighter and
smaller body instead of more megbytes.
Portability is a very important factor for many.


Guenter Fieblinger <> wrote:

>When looking carefully at the design of the PRO1 it is except for lens and
>sensor almost identical to the G-series.

"Guenter Fieblinger" <> wrote in message
news:...
> wrote:
>
> > SNIP.....
> > The Pro1 and S1 are totally different animals, hold no relation
> > to the G series.
> > SNIP....
>
> When looking carefully at the design of the PRO1 it is except for lens and
> sensor almost identical to the G-series. The layout of the buttons has
been
> shuffled around a bit but the functionality and menu structured has been
> kept.
>
> Even the lens and sensor are keeping in line with the underlying
> 'philosophy' of the Gs to give an excellent quality camera into the hand
of
> the casual user.
> True, the G5 lagged a bit behind, it should rather have be named 'G 4.1'
>
> Overall I think that the the PRO1 will appeal very much to the type of
> G-users even more so as the fine usability of the G-design has been kept
> instead of being scrapped for just another novelty gag.
>
> Guenter
>

It does appeal to this G1 user, except for the price.

Mark