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There are advanced digital cameras in the market today that looks like
SLR cameras. However, I assume that they can only take digital data.
1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
well as storing the image in a film ?
If I pay expensive and advanced camera, I may as well like to have the
option whether to store the image in digital form , in film or BOTH.
Is such a camera exist today?
2. Going back to the digital SLR, what is the function of the SLR, if
the image will not be recorded in film behind the prism? I understand
that in SLR camera, the prism flips up when the photo is taken and the
image is then captured by the film behind the prism (at the back of
the camera). Does this happen on digital SLR?

"aniram" <> wrote in message
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> There are advanced digital cameras in the market today that looks like
> SLR cameras. However, I assume that they can only take digital data.
> 1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
> well as storing the image in a film ?
> If I pay expensive and advanced camera, I may as well like to have the
> option whether to store the image in digital form , in film or BOTH.
> Is such a camera exist today?

No. You can wiht many medium format cameras though.


> 2. Going back to the digital SLR, what is the function of the SLR, if
> the image will not be recorded in film behind the prism? I understand
> that in SLR camera, the prism flips up when the photo is taken and the
> image is then captured by the film behind the prism (at the back of
> the camera). Does this happen on digital SLR?

Yes.

"Darren Sawyer" <> wrote in message
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> "aniram" <> wrote in message
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> No. You can wiht many medium format cameras though.
>

Sorry, you can't do both at the same time!!! Either film or digital with MF
camera and backs.


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> > 2. Going back to the digital SLR, what is the function of the SLR, if
> > the image will not be recorded in film behind the prism? I understand
> > that in SLR camera, the prism flips up when the photo is taken and the
> > image is then captured by the film behind the prism (at the back of
> > the camera). Does this happen on digital SLR?
>
> Yes.
>
>

"aniram" <> wrote in message
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> There are advanced digital cameras in the market today that looks like
> SLR cameras. However, I assume that they can only take digital data.
> 1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
> well as storing the image in a film ?

These are called hybrid cameras.

http://www.vivitar.com/Products/hybrid/special.html

There is one that exists, the Digi 35mm, but it's a very low end camera.
Forget it.

The other option is from http://siliconfilm.com/ , but none of these
products actually exist, so it really is not an option!

Just purchase a digital body, and a film body (much less expensive) that
takes the same lenses. Switch between them as appropriate. It's the most
convenient way.

-Z

aniram wrote:
> There are advanced digital cameras in the market today that looks like
> SLR cameras. However, I assume that they can only take digital data.
> 1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
> well as storing the image in a film ?
> If I pay expensive and advanced camera, I may as well like to have the
> option whether to store the image in digital form , in film or BOTH.
> Is such a camera exist today?
> 2. Going back to the digital SLR, what is the function of the SLR, if
> the image will not be recorded in film behind the prism? I understand
> that in SLR camera, the prism flips up when the photo is taken and the
> image is then captured by the film behind the prism (at the back of
> the camera). Does this happen on digital SLR?

In article < >,
aniram <> wrote:

>2. Going back to the digital SLR, what is the function of the SLR, if
>the image will not be recorded in film behind the prism? I understand
>that in SLR camera, the prism flips up when the photo is taken and the
>image is then captured by the film behind the prism (at the back of
>the camera). Does this happen on digital SLR?

Yes. They're exactly the same, other than the film being replaced with an
electronic image sensor. The mirror, shutter, etc. is all still there.

BTW, the prism is in front of the viewfinder, not the film...

> 1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
> well as storing the image in a film ?

Sure, no problem -- use a 35mm camera and scan the negatives.
My local minilab will scan them at time of processing for $10/roll.

aniram wrote:

> There are advanced digital cameras in the market today that looks like
> SLR cameras. However, I assume that they can only take digital data.
> 1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
> well as storing the image in a film ?

Doing one or the other is possible with a few expensive choices. Take a
look at the upcoming Digital R module from Leica:

<http://www.leica-camera.com/produkte/rsystem/digitalmodul/index_e.html>

The other options are the Horseman DigiFlex system and the newer Sinar M
system, though both were originally designed to take medium format
digital backs. Since the mount is Hasselblad compatible, these can also
take newer Hasselblad film backs.

>
> If I pay expensive and advanced camera, I may as well like to have the
> option whether to store the image in digital form , in film or BOTH.
> Is such a camera exist today?

To do both without changing a back, or as simultaneous images, has not
been available in an expensive system. Kodak produced a few variations of
a P&S camera called a Preview camera. This had an LCD on the back, and
loaded film. They are very cheap, and very limited in use.

To functionally achieve a similar effect, you could get one of the new
Kodak Plus Digital one-time-use cameras. These have film in them, and
when you go for processing you get a CD-R of images with your negatives
and prints. These are currently around $10 in the US. Probably the
cheapest of all options.

>
> 2. Going back to the digital SLR, what is the function of the SLR, if
> the image will not be recorded in film behind the prism? I understand
> that in SLR camera, the prism flips up when the photo is taken and the
> image is then captured by the film behind the prism (at the back of
> the camera). Does this happen on digital SLR?

Sure, and the advantage is direct viewing of the scene in front of you
through the lens you want to use. If you compare this to a P&S digital,
many of those have a full time live image hitting the chip. While the P&S
allows continuous scene viewing on the LCD (like a video camcorder), the
disadvantage is that you could burn out the chip sooner. On the direct
digital SLR, the mirror and shutter cover the chip until the image is
captured.

Of course, it does not have to be that way. There have been a few film
cameras that had pellicule mirrors that did not need to move out of the
way when pressing the shutter button. These allowed continuous viewing
through the viewfinder, and allowed the film to be exposed when the
shutter opened. It would be easy to do the same on a direct digital SLR.

Ciao!

Gordon Moat
Alliance Graphique Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com>

"aniram" <> wrote in message
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> There are advanced digital cameras in the market today that looks like
> SLR cameras. However, I assume that they can only take digital data.
> 1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
> well as storing the image in a film ?

Hybrid camera technology is still more or less in it's infancy, so while you
may want a toy to mess around with, it's alot easier and more practical to
do as someone else here suggested...get an SLR body for digital, and another
for film, and share lenses. There's really no need for you to have both at
the same time.

> If I pay expensive and advanced camera, I may as well like to have the
> option whether to store the image in digital form , in film or BOTH.
> Is such a camera exist today?

Yes, but as above, the technology isn't "great" yet, so you're better off
using 2 types of SLR bodies. It's not really all that much trouble. Many
professional photographers carry atleast one backup body anyway. You get
the same benefit, plus more reliable and proven technology, just not in the
same camera.

> 2. Going back to the digital SLR, what is the function of the SLR, if
> the image will not be recorded in film behind the prism?

The SLR is the same, the function is the same. The only difference is that
while one system records the image on film, the other records the image on
digital media by means of an electronic sensor.

>I understand
> that in SLR camera, the prism flips up when the photo is taken and the
> image is then captured by the film behind the prism (at the back of
> the camera). Does this happen on digital SLR?

Actually, the prism doesn't flip at all, the mirror does. The mirror aligns
itself with the prism to give you an image in the viewfinder, when you take
the picture, the mirror flips up, or in some cases is semi-transparent and
doesn't move.

The SLR mechanism functions the same for both systems, digital or film.

The primary advantage of digital SLR is you get better images, and you have
the option of many types of lenses to choose from. If you take pictures in
many types of enviroments/places, then an SLR might be good for you, whether
digital or film. It's not really a camera for casual photography.

Let me compare an SLR camera with a normal "point and shoot" camera for you.

The point and shoot camera you often see in camera and tourist shops for
very little money. Everything is usually very simple to use, but you don't
have other lenses you can use, and the flash is almost always built into the
camera.

With an SLR, you pay more for it, but you have the ability to use more
functions, and many of the entry-level SLR cameras are designed to work
similar to point and shoot, so if you want someone to take a quick photo of
you and your friend on vacation, it doesn't take much time to show them how.
The SLR generally produces better quality photographs, has a wider range of
film, lens, flash, filter, and photography options, and tends to last alot
longer than the average point and shoot camera will.

Hope some or all of this helps you.

"Darren Sawyer" <> wrote in message
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> "aniram" <> wrote in message
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> > There are advanced digital cameras in the market today that looks like
> > SLR cameras. However, I assume that they can only take digital data.
> > 1. Is there a digital camera that can produce BOTH digital data, as
> > well as storing the image in a film ?
> > If I pay expensive and advanced camera, I may as well like to have the
> > option whether to store the image in digital form , in film or BOTH.
> > Is such a camera exist today?
>
> No. You can wiht many medium format cameras though.
>
>
Leica has announced something that will do what you want (if and when it is
available)...it is a digital back for their SLR. I'd actually prefer it if
some other manufacturers took that route as well. Right now, digital camera
advancements are fast and furious and the cameras become obsolete fast
enough that it'd be nice to only replace the "digital" part and keep the
same mechanics, metering, etc and that might as well include film
capability. Nikons used to be so modular...what happened now that it would
be super useful???