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Marc Walch
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      12-05-2003
I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.

What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.

This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.

I have contacted Kodak and their answer was to use their Easyshare
software with a driver for the Epson 2200. I did this and the result is
just as desastrous!

Any ideas out there?

Thanks

Marc

 
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Bill Hilton
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      12-05-2003
>From: Marc Walch

>I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
>Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.
>
>What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
>printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
>enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.
>
>Any ideas out there?


When you select the paper type in the Epson driver the printer knows how much
ink to lay down based on the dot gain of that paper. What's happening is the
option you're selecting is putting down too much ink for the Kodak paper and
it's not drying fast enough.

One thing you can try is going to the 'advanced' dialog box and unchecking
'high speed', this will give the ink a bit more time to dry between the heads
and the rollers. If this doesn't do it you can try other paper type options
and see if one of them gives you less ink, though the print quality may be off.

You can clean the rollers with the device shipped with the printer that looks
like a tongue depressor with a sponge on the end. The cleaning process is
describe on pg 65 of the Printer Basics manual.

>This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
>anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
>when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.


I've never seen this problem with the Epson paper either, so long as the right
paper setting was used (heard of a guy who put the glossy paper in upside down
and he had the smears though).

Personally I'd just toss the Kodak paper rather than going thru all the
aggravation. A lot of otherwise very good papers just won't print right on the
Epson pigment inks but fortunately Epson gives you six good ones to choose from
so it's no big loss.

Bill


 
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JIM
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      12-05-2003
Easy answer is to dump the Kodak stuff; however, you may be able to use it
to some extent by making sure any high speed settings are turned off and
select a less saturated setting, i.e., possibly designate plain paper with
720 or less dpi?? I've never liked Kodak's inkjet papers; but that could be
because I've always had Epson printers........

Shoot'em up, print with anything, Agfa, Fuji, Kodak and all the rest will
love you for it!!

Jim

"Marc Walch" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
> Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.
>
> What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
> printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
> enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.
>
> This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
> anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
> when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.
>
> I have contacted Kodak and their answer was to use their Easyshare
> software with a driver for the Epson 2200. I did this and the result is
> just as desastrous!
>
> Any ideas out there?
>
> Thanks
>
> Marc
>



 
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Warren
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      12-05-2003
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:55:14 -0800, Marc Walch
<> wrote:

>I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
>Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.
>
>What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
>printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
>enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.
>
>This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
>anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
>when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.
>
>I have contacted Kodak and their answer was to use their Easyshare
>software with a driver for the Epson 2200. I did this and the result is
>just as desastrous!
>
>Any ideas out there?
>
>Thanks
>
>Marc


You might try buying a set of roller lifters designed for the 2200,
they are intended to address these "slow-drying" problems when
printing on non-Epson papers. Other problems, too--such as reverse
curl are probably fixed with this. Just do a search on eBay under
"Epson 2200" and you will (hopefully) find this guy's ad. I bought a
set a couple weeks ago, they are under $20.

Of course printing on relatively non-absorbant papers or those that
are over-sized in some manner could lead to reticulation effects, but
this is not always such a bad thing, depending on what you're trying
to achieve. I've printed some very interesting B&W pictures on
plastic-based HP "paper" that requires about two days to settle down.
 
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Tom Monego
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      12-05-2003
Right paper for the right printer. The Epson 2200 is a pigmented ink printer,
Kodak Premium Photo works best with dye inks. I use a long lasting dye ink
with it and have excellent results, but I'm sure it could be a pain with the
Ultrachrome inks. I'd use one of the Epson or Ilford glossy papers made for
pigments, If you are locked into Kodak try the UltraPhoto.


Tom


In article <>, says...
>
>I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
>Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.
>
>What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
>printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
>enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.
>
>This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
>anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
>when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.
>
>I have contacted Kodak and their answer was to use their Easyshare
>software with a driver for the Epson 2200. I did this and the result is
>just as desastrous!
>
>Any ideas out there?
>
>Thanks
>
>Marc
>


 
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Annika1980
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      12-05-2003
>From: Marc Walch

>I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
>Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.


>This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
>anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
>when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.


It bothers me a little bit that you ponied up $700 for the Epson 2200 and now
you're skimping on paper.

It bothers me a lot that you work for NASA.

Always use paper designed for the printer you select. Using Kodak or HP paper
in an Epson printer gives lousy results, as you found out.




 
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Ron Baird
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      12-05-2003
Hi Bill,

Sorry to hear about the trouble you are having in printing with EasyShare.

One of the featuresthat is included with Kodaks EasyShare software, is One
Touch. This feature is the result of a lot of work on the part of Kodak to
make sure that most of the printers that are on the market today give good
results with Kodak paper. This means that if you install Kodak EasyShare
Software and choose the Print At Home tab in the software with the Epson
2200 selected at the printer, and you choose Kodak Premium Picture Paper as
the choice choice of paper from the options, the driver will be adjusted to
provide optimum results with that paper.

In fact, Marc, to help you understand the feature a little better, please go
to the following URL. Review the technology that is being offered and give
it a try the next time you make some prints. If the results are not what
you think the should be or are not better than before, let me know as I
would like to find out why. We spend months working on specific printers,
tweaking and adjusting till the results are great. We then post them to the
website for One Touch. If you have EasyShare software, as noted, you can go
to the following site and download. We monitor printer manufacturers and
work closely with them so we have the latest drivers included.

http://www.kodak.com/go/onetouch

Give it a try, I am quite sure you will enjoy the results.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company



"Bill Hilton" <> wrote in message
news:...
> >From: Marc Walch

>
> >I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
> >Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.
> >
> >What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
> >printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
> >enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.
> >
> >Any ideas out there?

>
> When you select the paper type in the Epson driver the printer knows how

much
> ink to lay down based on the dot gain of that paper. What's happening is

the
> option you're selecting is putting down too much ink for the Kodak paper

and
> it's not drying fast enough.
>
> One thing you can try is going to the 'advanced' dialog box and unchecking
> 'high speed', this will give the ink a bit more time to dry between the

heads
> and the rollers. If this doesn't do it you can try other paper type

options
> and see if one of them gives you less ink, though the print quality may be

off.
>
> You can clean the rollers with the device shipped with the printer that

looks
> like a tongue depressor with a sponge on the end. The cleaning process is
> describe on pg 65 of the Printer Basics manual.
>
> >This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
> >anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
> >when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.

>
> I've never seen this problem with the Epson paper either, so long as the

right
> paper setting was used (heard of a guy who put the glossy paper in upside

down
> and he had the smears though).
>
> Personally I'd just toss the Kodak paper rather than going thru all the
> aggravation. A lot of otherwise very good papers just won't print right

on the
> Epson pigment inks but fortunately Epson gives you six good ones to choose

from
> so it's no big loss.
>
> Bill
>
>



 
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George Kerby
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      12-05-2003
On 12/5/03 11:55 AM, in article , "Marc Walch"
<> wrote:

> I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
> Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.
>
> What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
> printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
> enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.
>
> This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
> anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
> when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.
>
> I have contacted Kodak and their answer was to use their Easyshare
> software with a driver for the Epson 2200. I did this and the result is
> just as desastrous!
>
> Any ideas out there?
>
> Thanks
>
> Marc
>

Why don't you just donate it to charity or someone who has a compatible
printer? Your just making bad prints that may damage the printer and be
useless.


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George Kerby
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      12-05-2003
On 12/5/03 2:58 PM, in article ,
"Annika1980" <> wrote:

>> From: Marc Walch

>
>> I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
>> Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.

>
>> This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
>> anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
>> when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.

>
> It bothers me a little bit that you ponied up $700 for the Epson 2200 and now
> you're skimping on paper.
>
> It bothers me a lot that you work for NASA.
>

LOL! U de bomb, Anni!



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Bill Hilton
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      12-05-2003
>From: "Ron Baird"

>Hi Bill,
>
>Sorry to hear about the trouble you are having in printing with EasyShare.


Hi Ron,

Actually I don't have any troubles with EasyShare since I've never used it and
never used Kodak paper in my Epson printers. Can't imagine why I would want to
either since the Epson papers are so good.

Maybe you have me confused with Marc, the original poster?

Bill


 
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