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In article <bqm8rh$236q3m$>,
says...
> Todd Walker wrote:
>
> > In article < >,
> > says...
> >> The AF speed takes at least 5 to 10 seconds to focus correctly,
> >>
> >
> > That is a complete and utter fabrication. There is NO WAY any camera can
> > take that long to focus.
>
> >
> > From Steve's Digicams review:
> >
> > "The DSC-P10's performance is fairly impressive. Shutter lag, the time
> > delay between depressing the shutter and the photo being captured, was
> > measured at .2 to .3 seconds when pre-focused."
> >
> >
>
> Did you miss the word "pre-focused"? I've never owned an autofocus camera
> before the nikon 2100 I bought for ebay use and can't believe anyone thinks
> this kind of autofocus is a good thing!

I never said it was a good thing. I said that it is impossible that the
focus takes 5-10 seconds as he claims. Without prefocusing, it should be
around 1 second.

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Yes there is somethingw rong with my previous reply to your
suugestion.
It was never posted in this newsgroup.

I use a very stable tripod, everybody knows about using tripod or any
stable base if you shot using self timer. I am not green horn. Your
assumption is just too shallow.

I used many cameras Nikon, Canon, Ricoh, Konika, the recent one
Finepix then the crap Sony DSC P-10. I know AF and how to deal with
manual settings so don't assume other as stupid as you are.

Lab reports can be tailor made, open your eyes and try the camera
before passing on any jugdement.


"Q. Lu" <> wrote in message news:<c5qdnQcD7p2YglGiRVn->...
> Sounds like there is something wrong with your operation. For example, if
> you use the timer, you are probably setting the camera on a tripod. If you
> still get a blurry image, either you did not focus right, or your tripod is
> unstable.
> The AF on many cameras take some get-use-to. You have to learn how to get
> perfectly focused shots. The AF speed on Sony cameras is genreally faster
> than average, according to reports from pro labs.
> lower the sharpening value on the Sony to get smoother images.
>
> "useenomeyes" <> wrote in message
> news: om...
> > Do Not Buy Sony DSC P10, I bought one and was so dissapointed with the
> > picture quality. My old Fujufilm Finepix 2800 which is only 2.1MP does
> > better job for point and shot pictures, produces crispier clearer and
> > sharper pictures than 5MP
> > Sony.
> > Sony produces out of focus, blurry images when using timer.
> > If you blow up the images, the jagerred edges far worse than my old
> > Finepix can produce.
> > To point and shot pictures take longer time, the object may have gone
> > before you can shot it. Movie clip is not that presentable at all on
> > TV.
> >
> > Sony has only the name for digital camera. Buy Sony video camera
> > instead it's better.
> >
> >
> > USNMY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Harry Da Hat" <> wrote in message
> news:<2Cwxb.68741$>...
> > > On 27-Nov-2003, "lu_cad" <> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What is a most beautifull ,easy-to-use and quality Digital camera?
> > > >
> > > > Canon IXUS 400
> > > > Nikon coolpix 4300
> > > > HP photosmart 935
> > > > or
> > > > Sony DSC P10
> > > >
> > > > How use it ? plese write me your esperiance
> > >
> > > None of them.

When I bought this crap along with my frind we were convinced it works
well.I own finepix 2800 2MP, and the konica and Ricoh, I used to have
Nikon and Canon as well.
I am not converse in doing manual settings, maybe once in a while,
when I need to take outdoor shots, I really don't bother about manual
settings. All the while I use auto setting, AF, point and shot.
That's all the experience I have.
How could you judged me lying when I tell our real experiences after
comparing the results and double checking all the evidences.
It really took 5 seconds to set the autofocus right, otherwise you
won't be able to shot. If you force it the result is fatal.

Now I am pursuing my right to return this crap camera, the shop and
Sony service centre are processing this despite all sorts of
arguments. The good thing the memory stick provides the evidence of
such poor pictures quality as well.

Whoever not convinced please try other camera to compare the result.






(MJD1969) wrote in message news:<>...
> >Do Not Buy Sony DSC P10, I bought one and was so dissapointed with the
> >picture quality. My old Fujufilm Finepix 2800 which is only 2.1MP does
> >better job for point and shot pictures, produces crispier clearer and
> >sharper pictures than 5MP
> >Sony.
> >Sony produces out of focus, blurry images when using timer.
> >If you blow up the images, the jagerred edges far worse than my old
> >Finepix can produce.
> >To point and shot pictures take longer time, the object may have gone
> >before you can shot it. Movie clip is not that presentable at all on
> >TV.
> >
> >Sony has only the name for digital camera. Buy Sony video camera
> >instead it's better.
> >
> >
> >USNMY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Harry Da Hat" <> wrote in message
> >news:<2Cwxb.68741$>...
> >> On 27-Nov-2003, "lu_cad" <> wrote:
> >>
> >> > What is a most beautifull ,easy-to-use and quality Digital camera?
> >> >
> >> > Canon IXUS 400
> >> > Nikon coolpix 4300
> >> > HP photosmart 935
> >> > or
> >> > Sony DSC P10
> >> >
> >> > How use it ? plese write me your esperiance
> >>
> >> None of them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> It may be just the particular camera you got. I have had a Sony P5 (3.2meg) for
> a couple of years now and it's been a great camera. Sharp pictures, easy to
> use. True it has a lag when taking the picture, but I haven't come across a P&S
> digital that didn't. My neighbor just bought a P10 based on my Sony
> recommendation and he loves it. I'm tempted to pick one up myself.

Todd Walker wrote:

> In article <bqm8rh$236q3m$>,
> says...
>> Todd Walker wrote:
>>
>> > In article < >,
>> > says...
>> >> The AF speed takes at least 5 to 10 seconds to focus correctly,
>> >>
>> >
>> > That is a complete and utter fabrication. There is NO WAY any camera
>> > can take that long to focus.
>>
>> >
>> > From Steve's Digicams review:
>> >
>> > "The DSC-P10's performance is fairly impressive. Shutter lag, the time
>> > delay between depressing the shutter and the photo being captured, was
>> > measured at .2 to .3 seconds when pre-focused."
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Did you miss the word "pre-focused"? I've never owned an autofocus camera
>> before the nikon 2100 I bought for ebay use and can't believe anyone
>> thinks this kind of autofocus is a good thing!
>
> I never said it was a good thing. I said that it is impossible that the
> focus takes 5-10 seconds as he claims. Without prefocusing, it should be
> around 1 second.
>

With indoor lighting my nikon can take a couple of seconds (if it ever
focuses correctly) then add shutter lag and I wonder if it's ever going to
take the shot. I'd MUCH rather have a manual or even scale focus setup.
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Stacey