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Mike wrote:

> I believe the CD drive drawer should open with the button -as long as it has
> power.
> No drivers or O/S needed just to open the door.
>

Not the case, based on experience 8 hours ago.

Phil

Phil wrote:
>
> My recent experience along these lines:
>
> "Tonight my CD-RW/DVD drive disappeared in My Computer and Device
> Manager after a reboot.
>
> After beating on it for a couple of hours (I'm pretty good at this,
> usually), I gave up and called Averatec Tech Support (which is there 24/7).
>
> The support guy (Tom) said to:
>
> o Shut down the computer
> o Unplug the AC adapter
> o Remove the battery
> o Wait 5 minutes
>

My computer does not have an AC adapter. In general computers do not have an AC
adapter, the power cord plugs directly into the power supply. Only laptops
typically have AC adapters.

Remove the battery? There is sometimes a small battery somewhere on the
motherboard, which is only used to keep the computer clock setting accurate.
Most of the time, there isn't even a battery.

Are you talking about a laptop?

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Phil wrote:
>
> Did you get my private msg on my experiences with this problem last
> night, Abrasha? If not,I will resend it.
>

I did, but you seemed to be talking about a laptop computer, not a desktop.

Desktops don't have AC adapters, nor batteries.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Abrasha wrote:
> Phil wrote:
>
>>My recent experience along these lines:
>>
>>"Tonight my CD-RW/DVD drive disappeared in My Computer and Device
>>Manager after a reboot.
>>
>>After beating on it for a couple of hours (I'm pretty good at this,
>>usually), I gave up and called Averatec Tech Support (which is there 24/7).
>>
>>The support guy (Tom) said to:
>>
>>o Shut down the computer
>>o Unplug the AC adapter
>>o Remove the battery
>>o Wait 5 minutes
>>
>
>
> My computer does not have an AC adapter. In general computers do not have an AC
> adapter, the power cord plugs directly into the power supply.

"In general"? Well, not really. I have four laptops and one desktop,
so most of mine are as I described. I had no way of knowing if yours
was a laptop or a desktop.

Only laptops
> typically have AC adapters.
>
> Remove the battery? There is sometimes a small battery somewhere on the
> motherboard, which is only used to keep the computer clock setting accurate.
> Most of the time, there isn't even a battery.
>

Almost all desktops do have a battery for RTC, etc. Clocks keep running
if they are unplugged

Since you have a desktop, advice is different.

1. Open it up and check all cables to CD-RW
2. Try it again
3. If it does not work, replace it (cheap and easy in desktop, NOT in a
laptop).

Phil

Phil wrote:
>
> Abrasha wrote:
> > Phil wrote:
> >
> >>My recent experience along these lines:
> >>
> >>"Tonight my CD-RW/DVD drive disappeared in My Computer and Device
> >>Manager after a reboot.
> >>
> >>After beating on it for a couple of hours (I'm pretty good at this,
> >>usually), I gave up and called Averatec Tech Support (which is there 24/7).
> >>
> >>The support guy (Tom) said to:
> >>
> >>o Shut down the computer
> >>o Unplug the AC adapter
> >>o Remove the battery
> >>o Wait 5 minutes
> >>
> >
> >
> > My computer does not have an AC adapter. In general computers do not have an AC
> > adapter, the power cord plugs directly into the power supply.
>
> "In general"? Well, not really. I have four laptops and one desktop,
> so most of mine are as I described. I had no way of knowing if yours
> was a laptop or a desktop.
>
> Only laptops
> > typically have AC adapters.
> >
> > Remove the battery? There is sometimes a small battery somewhere on the
> > motherboard, which is only used to keep the computer clock setting accurate.
> > Most of the time, there isn't even a battery.
> >
>
> Almost all desktops do have a battery for RTC, etc. Clocks keep running
> if they are unplugged
>
> Since you have a desktop, advice is different.
>
> 1. Open it up and check all cables to CD-RW
> 2. Try it again
> 3. If it does not work, replace it (cheap and easy in desktop, NOT in a
> laptop).
>
> Phil


Phil,

I don't know if you noticed, but I posted last night that I fixed it.
--
Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Abrasha wrote:

>
> Phil,
>
> I don't know if you noticed, but I posted last night that I fixed it.

No, I missed that. So many msgs in this forum!

I'm very glad to hear that

Phil

Phil wrote:
>
> Abrasha wrote:
>
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > I don't know if you noticed, but I posted last night that I fixed it.
>
> No, I missed that. So many msgs in this forum!
>

No kidding. One of the most popular on the Net. Should give Kodak something to
worry about.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Abrasha wrote:
>
> Crownfield wrote:
> >
> > Abrasha wrote:
> > >
> > > Is it possible that Irfanview "killed" my CD-RW drive?
> >
> > roxios cd creator 5 killed drives when it was installed.
> > it did so by damaging the registry.
> >
> > roxio swore they knew noting.
> > a google search found that lots of other people
> > knew about the problem with cd creator 5.
> > the drive was no longer recognized.
> > try reinstalling your cd driver.
> >
>
> There is no such thing as a driver supplied by the cd manufacturer.

never argued that.


> That's what
> the support guy at TDK told me. They use a driver that is supplied by Windows
>
> Most, if not all CD-RW drives do the same thing.
>
> Abrasha
> http://www.abrasha.com

I had a similar problem. I did a google search and found a web site
on copying files to a CD ROM RW. Then there was the section called
"if your CD drive disappears". It seems like loading 3rd party
software can screw up the register file. He had a file called cdgone.
I downloaded it ran it and now everything seems to work ok. The one
difference was that the drawer would still open even though the
computer could not find the drive. Your experience suggests that the
CD drive is dead.

Phil <> wrote in message news:<xx6ub.85753$>. ..
> Mike wrote:
>
> > I believe the CD drive drawer should open with the button -as long as it has
> > power.
> > No drivers or O/S needed just to open the door.
> >
>
> Not the case, based on experience 8 hours ago.
>
> Phil

Hi,

Because CD-R/W drives are so inexpensive, after a bad experience like you had I
would replace the drive. Somehow once a failure like this occurs, especially
with the open and close, I would no longer trust the hardware with my data.

Just a personal opinion.
Rosita