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Too of a kind
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      10-24-2003

What telephoto lenses will be suitable for this camera. I am hoping I can
find one that is at least 6x.

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David J. Littleboy
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      10-24-2003

"Too of a kind" <> wrote:
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> What telephoto lenses will be suitable for this camera. I am hoping I can
> find one that is at least 6x.


The F828 does not take interchangeable lenses, and will not even be able to
take accessory lenses. It's 28mm to 200mm f/2.0 to f/2.8, no more, no less,
that's all, folks!

David J. Littleboy
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Stephen Leslie
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      10-24-2003
Hi David,

I think you are wrong to state that the F828 can't take additional lenses,
as just like its sibling the F717 the end of the barrel has a 58mm filter
thread, so it can take telephoto/wide-angle lenses just like a camcorder and
most other digital cameras (via adapter rings).

It should be fairly straight forward to get hold of 2x convertors (Raynox do
them), but there is one company that does a 5x model which is called the
Eagle-eye and is around £165 according to the March issue of Digital Photo.
Their website is: www.eagleeyeuk,com

I am not aware of anything making one that is larger.
Cheers,
Stephen
"David J. Littleboy" <> wrote in message
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> "Too of a kind" <> wrote:
> >
> > What telephoto lenses will be suitable for this camera. I am hoping I

can
> > find one that is at least 6x.

>
> The F828 does not take interchangeable lenses, and will not even be able

to
> take accessory lenses. It's 28mm to 200mm f/2.0 to f/2.8, no more, no

less,
> that's all, folks!
>
> David J. Littleboy
> Tokyo, Japan
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David J. Littleboy
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      10-24-2003

"Stephen Leslie" <> wrote in message
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> Hi David,
>
> I think you are wrong to state that the F828 can't take additional lenses,
> as just like its sibling the F717 the end of the barrel has a 58mm filter
> thread, so it can take telephoto/wide-angle lenses just like a camcorder

and
> most other digital cameras (via adapter rings).


I recall reading something from Sony that implied that they recommend _not_
using wide/tele converters. The zoom is _not_ an internal zooming zoom like
the F717, and may not have the mechanical strength to support the extremely
heavy Sony wide converter. I may have been reading too closely (and too
paranoidly), Sony may have changed their tune, or perhaps not.

> It should be fairly straight forward to get hold of 2x convertors (Raynox

do
> them), but there is one company that does a 5x model which is called the
> Eagle-eye and is around £165 according to the March issue of Digital

Photo.
> Their website is: www.eagleeyeuk,com


I'm sure that the various converters will work. Your camera may not if you
don't support them adequately. (Also, if the 8MP sensor really does fly, one
may be seriously bummed out by the loss in quality associated with
converters.)

I've not looked into putting consumer dcams in front of binoculars and
telescopes for extreme telephoto effects, but understand that there are a
lot of people who have, and suspect that they have recommendations as to
which consumer dcams are best for that. I also suspect that the Sony cameras
may not be on the list of cameras recommended for that. But that's just a
suspicion<g>.

David J. Littleboy
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Stephen Leslie
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      10-24-2003
Hi David,

Many apologies, you are quite correct that the F828 should'nt be used with
additional lenses screwed onto the filter thread (though it is possible), as
it will no doubt put a strain on the internal lens barrel mount and you do
not really want to damage a great camera.

Again, I am not worthy and bow to your knowledge. What's worse is that I
work in a camera store, but then I'm in the UK and we're always 4 months
behind the US/Canada/rest of the world. (The F828 has not arrived yet but
checked www.dpreview.com ) .

Mind you if I had the choice I would go for the Canon 300D as it is much
more flexible and you look through a proper pentaprism rather than a lcd
screen.

Cheers,
Stephen


 
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Gavyn Aaron
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      10-24-2003
"Stephen Leslie" <> wrote in message
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: Hi David,
:
: Many apologies, you are quite correct that the F828 should'nt be used with
: additional lenses screwed onto the filter thread (though it is possible),
as
: it will no doubt put a strain on the internal lens barrel mount and you do
: not really want to damage a great camera.
:
: Again, I am not worthy and bow to your knowledge. What's worse is that I
: work in a camera store, but then I'm in the UK and we're always 4 months
: behind the US/Canada/rest of the world. (The F828 has not arrived yet but
: checked www.dpreview.com ) .
:
: Mind you if I had the choice I would go for the Canon 300D as it is much
: more flexible and you look through a proper pentaprism rather than a lcd
: screen.
:
: Cheers,
: Stephen
:
:

I use wide/tele converters for my F717, and no problems at all so far.
Don't know about the 828, but I can't imagine that it would really be all
that different. Then again, who knows.

~G~


 
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Stephen Leslie
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      10-24-2003
Hi Gavyn,

I pressumed the same as yourself that the F828 would be of the same design
as the F717, but its not as David rightly points out. It is a whole redesign
which basically copies the principles of the Minolta Dimage 5/7/7i/7Hi and
operates as a lens like the ones for traditional SLR's. The barrel extends
as you zoom (by hand I think) and is no longer within its own housing as
with the F717, so the camera body will not support the weight of any
additional lenses.

For confirmation check out the photos from www.dpreview.com or even Sony's
own sight.

Cheers,
Stephen


 
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Todd Walker
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      10-24-2003
In article <xj6mb.4093$>,
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> you do
> not really want to damage a great camera.
>


How can you call the 828 a great camera when nobody has even touched one
yet? Are you just assuming it's gonna be great because it's 8mp and ugly
as moldy bread?

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Bob Niland
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      10-24-2003
> Too of a kind <> wrote:

> What telephoto lenses will be suitable
> for this camera.


So far, none.

The only accessory lens that Sony presently
lists for it is a filter-size close-up.

They are not "supporting" the multi-element
heavyweights, apparently because the front
element of the camera lens moves. The
structure, the servos and/or the servo
algorithms may not be up to the job.

I'm wondering if this is part of the slippage
in the release. Sony may have discovered too
late that 'F717 and 'F707 customers upgrading
to the 'F828 *WILL* attempt to use their
lens investments. If the result is damage,
that's a huge problem.

Canon has the reverse problem with the new
18-55 EF-S lens for the EOS-300D. Mounting it
on any other EF camera may result in camera
damage, lens damage, or both. Canon's "solution"
is to not sell that lens separately. This will
accomplish only minimal damage control.

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      10-24-2003
>How can you call the 828 a great camera when nobody has even touched one
>yet? Are you just assuming it's gonna be great because it's 8mp and ugly
>as moldy bread?
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I would take pictures with an ugly moldy piece of bread or crumb any time if it
yield great results. We'll see.




 
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