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Too bad half the ads are from scumbags. Check these out, paying
attention to the seller's feedback in each case:

"cobergman"
eBay #2957376212

"zelovia"
eBay #2957133851

"mybookroom"
eBay #2957472080

"dstuart42"
eBay #2957364905, #2957365094, #2957365436

"sacredfiredraconian"
eBay #2957465571

eBay is evidently too busy raking in money from seller fees to worry
about these fraud artists. I've noticed that no sooner are their ads
killed but twice as many take their place. All of the above users
except for the last is undoubtedly an innocent victim of identity
theft, but according to eBay policy it's essentially impossible for
those seeing these ads to inform the individuals that their ID's are
being used to commit fraud.

You may figure that if there are 7 frauds for 14n cameras alone (and
that's just today), that there must be thousands of these throughout
the photo and electronic sections of eBay. Clearly it's a time to be
verrrry careful when considering camera purchases or purchase of any
big-ticket items on eBay.

If you want to have some fun, try bidding small amounts on these, or
contact the sellers, asking for payment instructions and references.
A couple days ago some hero bid $122,000 for one of these 14n cameras,
just to kill the ad...knowing full well the seller had no intention to
deliver. The scumballs are often now resorting to hidden bids and
"preselected bidders," methods by which those wishing to warn bidders
about fraud are thwarted. Thanks eBay for your wisdom and
consideration. Thanks a bunch.

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:15:45 GMT, Nikki <> wrote:

> about fraud are thwarted. Thanks eBay for your wisdom and
> consideration. Thanks a bunch.

eBay has had its day. It is no longer useable.

Actually, you do make a point that spotting fraud in auctions is easy, and
that e-bay has provided enough tools to allow you to protect yourself. There
are millions of items for auction on that site, and we can't expect the
managers to find each and every shady auction.

Caveat Emptor.

"Nikki" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Too bad half the ads are from scumbags. Check these out, paying
> attention to the seller's feedback in each case:
>
> "cobergman"
> eBay #2957376212
>
> "zelovia"
> eBay #2957133851
>
> "mybookroom"
> eBay #2957472080
>
> "dstuart42"
> eBay #2957364905, #2957365094, #2957365436
>
> "sacredfiredraconian"
> eBay #2957465571
>
> eBay is evidently too busy raking in money from seller fees to worry
> about these fraud artists. I've noticed that no sooner are their ads
> killed but twice as many take their place. All of the above users
> except for the last is undoubtedly an innocent victim of identity
> theft, but according to eBay policy it's essentially impossible for
> those seeing these ads to inform the individuals that their ID's are
> being used to commit fraud.
>
> You may figure that if there are 7 frauds for 14n cameras alone (and
> that's just today), that there must be thousands of these throughout
> the photo and electronic sections of eBay. Clearly it's a time to be
> verrrry careful when considering camera purchases or purchase of any
> big-ticket items on eBay.
>
> If you want to have some fun, try bidding small amounts on these, or
> contact the sellers, asking for payment instructions and references.
> A couple days ago some hero bid $122,000 for one of these 14n cameras,
> just to kill the ad...knowing full well the seller had no intention to
> deliver. The scumballs are often now resorting to hidden bids and
> "preselected bidders," methods by which those wishing to warn bidders
> about fraud are thwarted. Thanks eBay for your wisdom and
> consideration. Thanks a bunch.

....
> Actually, you do make a point that spotting fraud in auctions is easy, and
> that e-bay has provided enough tools to allow you to protect yourself.

There should be a "report fraudulent auction" link and then ebay could pay 5
monkeys to act fast on suspicious items.

Its too hard to report frauds

Brothermark wrote:
> ...
>> Actually, you do make a point that spotting fraud in auctions is
>> easy, and that e-bay has provided enough tools to allow you to
>> protect yourself.
>
> There should be a "report fraudulent auction" link and then ebay
> could pay 5 monkeys to act fast on suspicious items.
>
> Its too hard to report frauds

Not hard:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_i...t_listing.html

And at least eBay.de is fast at taking action, just a matter of a few
hours. Don't know about eBay.com, they probably have much more work to
do (=a larger area of the world to service)

Though i agree, a link to the form should be included on every item's
page...

- jfw

Well, if it's so damned easy to spot these slimeballs, why doesn't
eBay take a more proactive role in getting rid of them? I don't think
it's fair to buyers to have to go through a number of expensive
learning experiences, but maybe I'm wrong. I've reported loads of
these and in each case they are eventually pulled off, but there needs
to be some involvement of law enforcement to set these bozos up and
get them put away. Just cancelling their ads isn't much satisfaction.

Here are a few more if you're interested in seeing the daily scumbag
list: 2957442137, 2957447716, 2957290686, 2957457966. The last is
funny, since the "seller" has never before dealed in anything but
casino chips and matchbook covers. How about this one for a D100:
2957112529. Unfortunately it has several bidders--clearly they should
be warned, since this "seller" hasn't sold or bought anything but
lady's dresses and shoes. Note that in all these auctions the phoney
seller does not accept PayPal or credit card payment, and in several
cases expects to give "pre-approval" to bidders. I think it's a bad
mistake for eBay to allow this, since it effectively hides bidders and
prevents whistle blowers (like me) from warning them.

Over the past few years I've purchased loads of Nikon equipment using
eBay with overall great results, but now things have changed
dramatically. When looking the ads over for 14n, D100, D1X etc.,
there are times when almost every other ad is a fraud! When this
slime figures out how to manipulate the system a bit better than they
do now, it will be difficult even for seasoned buyers to discriminate
fraud from legitimate sellers. I don't know about you, but I'd like
to see eBay healthy again, and a forum for honest transactions. If
it's to be a place where we're willing to buy again, it's up to all of
us to be vigilantes, rant, rave etc....

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:38:45 -0400, "Bowser-" <> wrote:

>Actually, you do make a point that spotting fraud in auctions is easy, and
>that e-bay has provided enough tools to allow you to protect yourself. There
>are millions of items for auction on that site, and we can't expect the
>managers to find each and every shady auction.
>
>Caveat Emptor.
>
>"Nikki" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> Too bad half the ads are from scumbags. Check these out, paying
>> attention to the seller's feedback in each case:
>>
>> "cobergman"
>> eBay #2957376212
>>
>> "zelovia"
>> eBay #2957133851
>>
>> "mybookroom"
>> eBay #2957472080
>>
>> "dstuart42"
>> eBay #2957364905, #2957365094, #2957365436
>>
>> "sacredfiredraconian"
>> eBay #2957465571
>>
>> eBay is evidently too busy raking in money from seller fees to worry
>> about these fraud artists. I've noticed that no sooner are their ads
>> killed but twice as many take their place. All of the above users
>> except for the last is undoubtedly an innocent victim of identity
>> theft, but according to eBay policy it's essentially impossible for
>> those seeing these ads to inform the individuals that their ID's are
>> being used to commit fraud.
>>
>> You may figure that if there are 7 frauds for 14n cameras alone (and
>> that's just today), that there must be thousands of these throughout
>> the photo and electronic sections of eBay. Clearly it's a time to be
>> verrrry careful when considering camera purchases or purchase of any
>> big-ticket items on eBay.
>>
>> If you want to have some fun, try bidding small amounts on these, or
>> contact the sellers, asking for payment instructions and references.
>> A couple days ago some hero bid $122,000 for one of these 14n cameras,
>> just to kill the ad...knowing full well the seller had no intention to
>> deliver. The scumballs are often now resorting to hidden bids and
>> "preselected bidders," methods by which those wishing to warn bidders
>> about fraud are thwarted. Thanks eBay for your wisdom and
>> consideration. Thanks a bunch.
>

"Nikki" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Well, if it's so damned easy to spot these slimeballs, why doesn't
> eBay take a more proactive role in getting rid of them?
(snipped)
Because eBay is really for SELLERS!!!! without them eBay has no business.
If sellers disappear, then buyers disappear. If buyers buy something bad,
they think it's just that seller, and they keep on buying. eBay protects
the seller, rarely the buyer....my experience, anyway.

Of course you're right, but last time I checked, it takes both seller
and buyer to make a transaction, and eBay has no business without the
satisfaction of both. eBay's shortsightedness in allowing
"pre-approved bidders" and the like is going to cause serious
purchasers to shy away. Here's yet another fraud to make the point:

#2957376080 D100 (shopofox)

Too bad "shopofox" doesn't know how his ID is being used...anyone care
to tell him?


On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:09:48 GMT, "nuttin" <> wrote:

>
>"Nikki" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> Well, if it's so damned easy to spot these slimeballs, why doesn't
>> eBay take a more proactive role in getting rid of them?
>(snipped)
>Because eBay is really for SELLERS!!!! without them eBay has no business.
>If sellers disappear, then buyers disappear. If buyers buy something bad,
>they think it's just that seller, and they keep on buying. eBay protects
>the seller, rarely the buyer....my experience, anyway.
>

E-Bay can't spot every auction fraud, and simply cannot hire enough people
to review each and every auction! This is a simple issue, really. If you are
not comfortable with the site, don't use it. But for a site that lists
millions of items, the percentage of fraud seems to be low. (gut feeling)

"Nikki" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Well, if it's so damned easy to spot these slimeballs, why doesn't
> eBay take a more proactive role in getting rid of them? I don't think
> it's fair to buyers to have to go through a number of expensive
> learning experiences, but maybe I'm wrong. I've reported loads of
> these and in each case they are eventually pulled off, but there needs
> to be some involvement of law enforcement to set these bozos up and
> get them put away. Just cancelling their ads isn't much satisfaction.
>
> Here are a few more if you're interested in seeing the daily scumbag
> list: 2957442137, 2957447716, 2957290686, 2957457966. The last is
> funny, since the "seller" has never before dealed in anything but
> casino chips and matchbook covers. How about this one for a D100:
> 2957112529. Unfortunately it has several bidders--clearly they should
> be warned, since this "seller" hasn't sold or bought anything but
> lady's dresses and shoes. Note that in all these auctions the phoney
> seller does not accept PayPal or credit card payment, and in several
> cases expects to give "pre-approval" to bidders. I think it's a bad
> mistake for eBay to allow this, since it effectively hides bidders and
> prevents whistle blowers (like me) from warning them.
>
> Over the past few years I've purchased loads of Nikon equipment using
> eBay with overall great results, but now things have changed
> dramatically. When looking the ads over for 14n, D100, D1X etc.,
> there are times when almost every other ad is a fraud! When this
> slime figures out how to manipulate the system a bit better than they
> do now, it will be difficult even for seasoned buyers to discriminate
> fraud from legitimate sellers. I don't know about you, but I'd like
> to see eBay healthy again, and a forum for honest transactions. If
> it's to be a place where we're willing to buy again, it's up to all of
> us to be vigilantes, rant, rave etc....
>
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:38:45 -0400, "Bowser-" <> wrote:
>
> >Actually, you do make a point that spotting fraud in auctions is easy,
and
> >that e-bay has provided enough tools to allow you to protect yourself.
There
> >are millions of items for auction on that site, and we can't expect the
> >managers to find each and every shady auction.
> >
> >Caveat Emptor.
> >
> >"Nikki" <> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> Too bad half the ads are from scumbags. Check these out, paying
> >> attention to the seller's feedback in each case:
> >>
> >> "cobergman"
> >> eBay #2957376212
> >>
> >> "zelovia"
> >> eBay #2957133851
> >>
> >> "mybookroom"
> >> eBay #2957472080
> >>
> >> "dstuart42"
> >> eBay #2957364905, #2957365094, #2957365436
> >>
> >> "sacredfiredraconian"
> >> eBay #2957465571
> >>
> >> eBay is evidently too busy raking in money from seller fees to worry
> >> about these fraud artists. I've noticed that no sooner are their ads
> >> killed but twice as many take their place. All of the above users
> >> except for the last is undoubtedly an innocent victim of identity
> >> theft, but according to eBay policy it's essentially impossible for
> >> those seeing these ads to inform the individuals that their ID's are
> >> being used to commit fraud.
> >>
> >> You may figure that if there are 7 frauds for 14n cameras alone (and
> >> that's just today), that there must be thousands of these throughout
> >> the photo and electronic sections of eBay. Clearly it's a time to be
> >> verrrry careful when considering camera purchases or purchase of any
> >> big-ticket items on eBay.
> >>
> >> If you want to have some fun, try bidding small amounts on these, or
> >> contact the sellers, asking for payment instructions and references.
> >> A couple days ago some hero bid $122,000 for one of these 14n cameras,
> >> just to kill the ad...knowing full well the seller had no intention to
> >> deliver. The scumballs are often now resorting to hidden bids and
> >> "preselected bidders," methods by which those wishing to warn bidders
> >> about fraud are thwarted. Thanks eBay for your wisdom and
> >> consideration. Thanks a bunch.
> >
>

> ... and in several cases expects to give
> "pre-approval" to bidders.

That makes it easy.
* Approved Bidder Auction: I don't bid.
* Private Auction: I don't bid.
* (Private) Feedback: I don't bid.

But unless the auc looks like an obvious
fraud, I do "ask the seller a question"
and close by pointing out that unless they
revise to open auction / or un-Private their
FB, I won't be bidding.

But nonetheless, eBay is NOT doing enough
to combat frauds, most of which are using
hijacked eBay accounts.

They could very easily prevent hijacks by
applying a "secret question" dialog for any changes to accounts (email address,
phone, address of record). Instead, they
sure make it look like their agenda lies
elsewhere.

--
Regards, PO Box 248
Bob Niland Enterprise
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which, due to spam, is: 67441-0248
email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
http://www.access-one.com/rjn

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