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Jane Fondle
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      09-28-2003
(TonyaK911) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> Lieutenant General Wesley Clark, who later commanded the barbaric NATO
> air war in Kosovo, was the director of strategic plans and policy for
> the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon during the genocidal
> outbreak of killings in Rwanda and and Burundi. He and his boss Bill
> Clint0n are among those who bear direct responsibility for allowing
> this horror (which cost almost 1,000,000 human lives!) to happen.
>
> So, who is this General?...
>
> A VAIN, POMPOUS, BROWN-NOSER: MEET THE REAL GENERAL CLARK
>
> Anyone seeking to understand the bloody fiasco of the Serbian war need
> hardly look further than the person of the beribboned Supreme Allied
> Commander, General Wesley K. Clark. Politicians and journalists are
> generally according him a respectful hearing as he discourses on the
> "schedule" for the destruction of Serbia, tellingly embracing phrases
> favored by military bureaucrats such as "systematic" and "methodical".
>
> The reaction from former army subordinates is very different.
> "The poster child for everything that is wrong with the GO (general
> officer) corps," exclaims one colonel, who has had occasion to observe
> Clark in action, citing, among other examples, his command of the 1st
> Cavalry Division at Fort Hood from 1992 to 1994.
>
> While Clark's official Pentagon biography proclaims his triumph in
> "transitioning the Division into a rapidly deployable force" this
> officer describes the "1st Horse Division" as "easily the worst
> division I have ever seen in 25 years of doing this stuff."
>
> Such strong reactions are common. A major in the 3rd Brigade of the
> 4th Infantry Division at Fort Carson, Colorado when Clark was in
> command there in the early 1980s described him as a man who "regards
> each and every one of his subordinates as a potential threat to his
> career".
>
> While he regards his junior officers with watchful suspicion, he
> customarily accords the lower ranks little more than arrogant
> contempt. A veteran of Clark's tenure at Fort Hood recalls the
> general's "massive tantrum because the privates and sergeants and
> wives in the crowded (canteen) checkout lines didn't jump out of the
> way fast enough to let him through".
>
> Clark's demeanor to those above is, of course, very different, a mode
> of behavior that has earned him rich dividends over the years. Thus,
> early in 1994, he was a candidate for promotion from two to three star
> general. Only one hurdle remained - a war game exercise known as the
> Battle Command Training Program in which Clark would have to maneuver
> his division against an opposing force. The commander of the opposing
> force, or "OPFOR" was known for the military skill with which he
> routinely demolished opponents.
>
> But Clark's patrons on high were determined that no such humiliation
> should be visited on their favorite. Prior to the exercise therefore,
> strict orders came down that the battle should go Clark's way.
> Accordingly, the OPFOR was reduced in strength by half, thus enabling
> Clark, despite deploying tactics of signal ineptitude, to triumph. His
> third star came down a few weeks later.
>
> Battle exercises and war games are of course meant to test the
> fighting skills of commanders and troops. The army's most important
> venue for such training is the National Training Center at Fort Irwin,
> California, where Clark commanded from October 1989 to October 1991
> and where his men derisively nicknamed him "Section Leader Six" for
> his obsessive micro-management.
>
> At the NTC, army units face a resident OPFOR that has, through
> constant battle practice coupled with innovative tactics and close
> knowledge of the terrain, become adept at routing the visiting "Blue
> Force" opponents. For Clark, this naturally posed a problem. Not only
> were his men using unconventional tactics, they were also humiliating
> Blue Force generals who might nurture resentment against the NTC
> commander and thus discommode his career at some future date. To the
> disgust of the junior OPFOR officers Clark therefore frequently fought
> to lose, sending his men on suicidal attacks in order that the Blue
> Forces should go home happy and owing debts of gratitude to their
> obliging foe.
>
> All observers agree that Clark has always displayed an obsessive
> concern with the perquisites and appurtenances of rank. Ever since he
> acceded to the Nato command post, the entourage with which he travels
> has accordingly grown to gargantuan proportions to the point where
> even civilians are beginning to comment. A Senate aide recalls his
> appearances to testify, prior to which aides scurry about the room
> adjusting lights, polishing his chair, testing the microphone etc
> prior to the precisely timed and choreographed moment when the Supreme
> Allied Commander Europe makes his entrance.
>
> "We are state of the art pomposity and arrogance up here," remarks the
> aide. "So when a witness displays those traits so egregiously that
> even the senators notice, you know we're in trouble." His NATO
> subordinates call him, not with affection, "the Supreme Being".
>
> "Clark is smart," concludes one who has monitored his career. "But his
> whole life has been spent manipulating appearances (e.g. the doctored
> OPFOR exercise) in the interests of his career. Now he is faced with a
> reality he can't control." This observer concludes that, confronted
> with the wily Slobodan and other unavoidable variables of war, Clark
> will soon come unglued. "Watch the carpets at NATO HQ for teeth
> marks."
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/clark.html
>
> __________________________________________________ __________
> WESLEY CLARK ALMOST TRIGGERS WORLD WAR 3
> The Guardian
>
> Robertson's plum job in a warring Nato
>
> As Blair's man is installed, Richard Norton-Taylor details the way the
> alliance generals have been fighting
>
> Tuesday August 3, 1999
>
> No sooner are we told by Britain's top generals that the Russians
> played a crucial role in ending the west's war against Yugoslavia than
> we learn that if Nato's supreme commander, the American General Wesley
> Clark, had had his way, British paratroopers would have stormed
> Pristina airport threatening to unleash the most frightening crisis
> with Moscow since the end of the cold war.
>
> "I'm not going to start the third world war for you," General Sir Mike
> Jackson, commander of the international K-For peacekeeping force, is
> reported to have told Gen Clark when he refused to accept an order to
> send assault troops to prevent Russian troops from taking over the
> airfield of Kosovo's provincial capital.
>
> Hyperbole, perhaps. But, by all accounts, Jackson was deadly serious.
> Clark, as he himself observed, was frustrated after fighting a war
> with his hands tied behind his back, and was apparently willing to
> risk everything for the sake of amour-propre .
>
> Nato's increasingly embarrassing, not to say ineffective, air assault
> on Yugoslavia, had ended. It was over, not least as General Sir
> Charles Guthrie, chief of the defence staff, acknowledged in an
> interview with the Guardian, thanks to the intervention of Moscow -
> its refusal to come to the aid of Belgrade. The point was emphatically
> underlined by Jackson in a further interview over the weekend with the
> Sunday Telegraph.
>
> "The event of June 3 [when Moscow urged Milosevic to surrender] was
> the single event that appeared to me to have the greatest significance
> in ending the war," said Jackson. Asked about the bombing campaign, he
> added pointedly: "I wasn't responsible for the air campaign, you're
> talking to the wrong person."
>
> Having helped Nato out of its predicament, Moscow was embroiled in
> arguments with Washington about the status of Russian troops in the
> K-For operation. For reasons to do with efficiency as much as power
> politics, the west insisted the Russian contingent must be "Nato-led".
> With or without Yeltsin's say-so, on June 12 a group of some 200
> Russian troops drove out of Bosnia - where they were serving with the
> Nato-led S-For stabilisation force - and in full view of the world's
> television cameras made for Pristina airport where Jackson had planned
> to set up his K-For headquarters guarded by British paratroopers.
>
> The Russians had made a political point, not a military one. It was
> apparently too much for Clark. According to the US magazine, Newsweek,
> General Clark ordered an airborne assault on the airfield by British
> and French paratroopers. General Jackson refused. Clark then asked
> Admiral James Ellis, the American commander of Nato's southern
> command, to order helicopters to occupy the airport to prevent Russian
> Ilyushin troop carriers from sending in reinforcements. Ellis replied
> that the British General Jackson would oppose such a move. In the end
> the Ilyushins were stopped when Washington persuaded Hungary, a new
> Nato member, to refuse to allow the Russian aircraft to fly over its
> territory.
>
> Jackson got full support from the British government for his refusal
> to carry out the American general's orders. When Clark appealed to
> Washington, he was allegedly given the brush-off. The American is said
> to have complained to Jackson about the British general's refusal to
> accept the order to take over Pristina airfield, and Jackson's
> subsequent appeal to his political masters when Clark visited Kosovo
> on June 24.
>
> The unsuccessful issuing of Clark's order has left a bitter taste,
> especially given the delay in US marines joining the K-For operation -
> a delay which Jackson had been prepared to indulge even though it held
> up the entry into Kosovo. Had the British general carried out Clark's
> instruction, all hope for a compromise with the Russians would have
> been shattered. In the end, Nato and Moscow reached a compromise and
> General Jackson willingly provided water and other supplies to
> stranded Russian paratroopers holed up at the airfield. He swallowed
> any hurt pride he might have had by insisting, not entirely
> convincingly, that control of the airfield was not important.
>
> The episode triggers reminiscences of the Korean war. Then, General
> Douglas MacArthur, commander of the UN force, wanted to invade, even
> nuke, China, until he was brought to heel by President Truman. So
> concerned was Clement Attlee that he urgently flew to Washington to
> put an end to such madness. MacArthur was relieved of his command.
>
> The comparison, of course, is not exact, but worth recording
> nonetheless. Last week, Clark was told in a telephone conversation
> from General Henry Shelton, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff,
> that he must leave his post early and make way for an older man,
> General Joseph Ralston, a favourite of the American defence secretary,
> William Cohen. Clark fell victim, not only to the Pristina airfield
> row, but to his tense relationship with Washington throughout the war
> - his repeated requests for more aircraft, including Apache
> helicopters (never used in conflict because of the risk to pilots),
> the need for a ground force contingency plan and an altogether more
> effective strategy against Milosevic, a man he got to know well during
> the 1995 Dayton peace negotiations on Bosnia. Asked to comment on
> Clark's forced retirement, Jackson replied: "He is my superior officer
> and that's it."
>
> So Nato will have a new supreme military commander close to Cohen and
> a new secretary-general - George Robertson - equally close to the US
> defence secretary as documents released under the US freedom of
> information act and reported today elsewhere in this newspaper
> testify. Though Nato was looking for a German - the defence minister,
> Rudolf Scharping declined - Robertson is said to have the enthusiastic
> support of the French and German governments to succeed the Spaniard,
> Javier Solana, who will take up a new post responsible for developing
> the EU's incipient common foreign and security policy.
>
> What does Robertson's appointment - expected to be formally approved
> tomorrow - signify ? He is regarded as having a "safe" pair of hands.
> He is unlikely to take risks. His main task will be to straddle the
> Atlantic, to help patch fissures in the alliance which almost cracked
> during the Kosovo war, and to persuade the Europeans to cooperate more
> effectively in the defence and security field.
>
> Robertson has talked much of "defence diplomacy". He will need to put
> this into practice, no more so than in Nato's relations with Russia,
> as the transatlantic alliance looks towards the east. The superficial
> rhetoric, Anglo-American arrogance, and the dangerously presumptuous
> approach towards Moscow, must be laid to rest.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Kosovo/Sto...208123,00.html
> __________________________________________________ _____
> CLARK DODGES MOST OF SERVICE IN VIETNAM WAR
>
> David H. Hackworth
> DEFENDING AMERICA
> April 20, 1999
> CLARK AND VIETNAM.
>
> NATO's Wesley Clark is not the Iron Duke, nor is he Stormin' Norman.
> Unlike Wellington and Schwarzkopf, Clark's not a muddy boots soldier.
> He's a military politician, without the right stuff to produce victory
> over Serbia.
>
> Known by those who've served with him as the "Ultimate Perfumed
> Prince," he's far more comfortable in a drawing room discussing
> political theories than hunkering down in the trenches where bullets
> fly and soldiers die. An intellectual in warrior's gear. A saying
> attributed to General George Patton was that it took 10 years with
> troops alone before an officer knew how to empty a bucket of spit As a
> serving soldier with 33 years of active duty under his pistol belt,
> Clark's commanded combat units -- rifle platoon to tank division - for
> only seven years. The rest of his career's been spent as an aide, an
> executive, a student and teacher and a staff weenie.
>
> Very much like generals Maxwell Taylor and William Westmoreland, the
> architect and carpenter of the Vietnam disaster, Clark was earmarked
> and then groomed early in his career for big things. At West Point he
> graduated No. 1 in his class, and even though the Vietnam War was
> raging and chewing up lieutenants faster than a machine gun can spit
> death, he was seconded to Oxford for two years of contemplating
> instead of to the trenches to lead a platoon.
>
> A year after graduating Oxford, he was sent to Vietnam, where, as a
> combat leader for several months, he was bloodied and muddied. Unlike
> most of his classmates, who did multiple combat tours in the killing
> fields of Southeast Asia, he spent the rest of the war sheltered in
> the ivy towers of West Point or learning power games first hand as a
> White House fellow.
>
> The war with Serbia has been going full tilt for almost a month and
> Clark's NATO is like a giant standing on a concrete pad wielding a
> sledgehammer crushing Serbian ants. Yet, with all its awesome might,
> NATO hasn't won a round. Instead, Milosovic is still calling all the
> shots from his Belgrade bunker, and all that's left for Clark is to
> react. Milosevic plays the fiddle and Clark dances the jig. 'Stormin'
> Norman or any good infantry sergeant major would have told Clark that
> conventional air power alone could never win a war -- it must be
> accompanied by boots on the ground.
>
> German air power didn't beat Britain. Allied air power didn't beat
> Germany. More air power than was used against the Japanese and Germans
> combined didn't win in Vietnam. Forty three days of pummeling in the
> open desert where there was no place to hide didn't KO Saddam. That
> fight ended only when Schwarzkopf unleashed the steel ground fist he'd
> carefully positioned before the first bomb fell.
>
> Doing military things exactly backwards, the scholar general is now,
> according to a high ranking Pentagon source, in "total panic mode" as
> he tries to mass the air and ground forces he finally figured out he
> needs to win the initiative. Mass is a principle of war. Clark has
> violated this rule along with the other eight vital principles. Any
> mud soldier will tell you if you don't follow the principles of war
> you lose.
>
> One of the salient reasons Wellington whipped Napoleon in 1815 at
> Waterloo is that the Corsican piecemealed his forces. Clark's done the
> same thing with his air power. He started with leisurely pinpricks and
> now is attempting to increase the pain against an opponent with an
> almost unlimited threshold. Similar gradualism was one of the reasons
> for defeat in Vietnam.
>
> Another mistake Clark's made is not knowing his enemy. Taylor and
> Westmoreland made this same error in Vietnam. Like the Vietnamese, the
> Serbs are fanatic warriors who know better than to fight
> conventionally in open formations. They'll use the rugged terrain and
> bomber bad weather to conduct the guerrilla operations they've been
> preparing for over 50 years.
>
> And they're damn good at partisan warfare. Just ask any German 70
> years or older if a fight in Serbia will be another Desert Storm. It's
> the smart general who knows when to retreat. If Clark lets pride stand
> in the way of military judgment, expect a long and bloody war.


He is a strange guy for a 4 star General!
 
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      09-28-2003
>rom: (Jane Fondle)

Do your revealing in the right place NOT^ HERE
 
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> He is a strange guy for a 4 star General!
>


And you are strange girl that thinks r.p.d is an
appropriate place for telling us so.


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      09-29-2003
How the hell did photo equipment get here???
I'm asking whoever started this cross-posting to
rec.photo.equipment.35mm, rec.photo.digital, etc. to stop this
practice.
Thank you in advance.
TK9

(Jane Fondle) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> (TonyaK911) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> > Lieutenant General Wesley Clark, who later commanded the barbaric NATO
> > air war in Kosovo, was the director of strategic plans and policy for
> > the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon during the genocidal
> > outbreak of killings in Rwanda and and Burundi. He and his boss Bill
> > Clint0n are among those who bear direct responsibility for allowing
> > this horror (which cost almost 1,000,000 human lives!) to happen.
> >
> > So, who is this General?...
> >
> > A VAIN, POMPOUS, BROWN-NOSER: MEET THE REAL GENERAL CLARK
> >
> > Anyone seeking to understand the bloody fiasco of the Serbian war need
> > hardly look further than the person of the beribboned Supreme Allied
> > Commander, General Wesley K. Clark. Politicians and journalists are
> > generally according him a respectful hearing as he discourses on the
> > "schedule" for the destruction of Serbia, tellingly embracing phrases
> > favored by military bureaucrats such as "systematic" and "methodical".
> >
> > The reaction from former army subordinates is very different.
> > "The poster child for everything that is wrong with the GO (general
> > officer) corps," exclaims one colonel, who has had occasion to observe
> > Clark in action, citing, among other examples, his command of the 1st
> > Cavalry Division at Fort Hood from 1992 to 1994.
> >
> > While Clark's official Pentagon biography proclaims his triumph in
> > "transitioning the Division into a rapidly deployable force" this
> > officer describes the "1st Horse Division" as "easily the worst
> > division I have ever seen in 25 years of doing this stuff."
> >
> > Such strong reactions are common. A major in the 3rd Brigade of the
> > 4th Infantry Division at Fort Carson, Colorado when Clark was in
> > command there in the early 1980s described him as a man who "regards
> > each and every one of his subordinates as a potential threat to his
> > career".
> >
> > While he regards his junior officers with watchful suspicion, he
> > customarily accords the lower ranks little more than arrogant
> > contempt. A veteran of Clark's tenure at Fort Hood recalls the
> > general's "massive tantrum because the privates and sergeants and
> > wives in the crowded (canteen) checkout lines didn't jump out of the
> > way fast enough to let him through".
> >
> > Clark's demeanor to those above is, of course, very different, a mode
> > of behavior that has earned him rich dividends over the years. Thus,
> > early in 1994, he was a candidate for promotion from two to three star
> > general. Only one hurdle remained - a war game exercise known as the
> > Battle Command Training Program in which Clark would have to maneuver
> > his division against an opposing force. The commander of the opposing
> > force, or "OPFOR" was known for the military skill with which he
> > routinely demolished opponents.
> >
> > But Clark's patrons on high were determined that no such humiliation
> > should be visited on their favorite. Prior to the exercise therefore,
> > strict orders came down that the battle should go Clark's way.
> > Accordingly, the OPFOR was reduced in strength by half, thus enabling
> > Clark, despite deploying tactics of signal ineptitude, to triumph. His
> > third star came down a few weeks later.
> >
> > Battle exercises and war games are of course meant to test the
> > fighting skills of commanders and troops. The army's most important
> > venue for such training is the National Training Center at Fort Irwin,
> > California, where Clark commanded from October 1989 to October 1991
> > and where his men derisively nicknamed him "Section Leader Six" for
> > his obsessive micro-management.
> >
> > At the NTC, army units face a resident OPFOR that has, through
> > constant battle practice coupled with innovative tactics and close
> > knowledge of the terrain, become adept at routing the visiting "Blue
> > Force" opponents. For Clark, this naturally posed a problem. Not only
> > were his men using unconventional tactics, they were also humiliating
> > Blue Force generals who might nurture resentment against the NTC
> > commander and thus discommode his career at some future date. To the
> > disgust of the junior OPFOR officers Clark therefore frequently fought
> > to lose, sending his men on suicidal attacks in order that the Blue
> > Forces should go home happy and owing debts of gratitude to their
> > obliging foe.
> >
> > All observers agree that Clark has always displayed an obsessive
> > concern with the perquisites and appurtenances of rank. Ever since he
> > acceded to the Nato command post, the entourage with which he travels
> > has accordingly grown to gargantuan proportions to the point where
> > even civilians are beginning to comment. A Senate aide recalls his
> > appearances to testify, prior to which aides scurry about the room
> > adjusting lights, polishing his chair, testing the microphone etc
> > prior to the precisely timed and choreographed moment when the Supreme
> > Allied Commander Europe makes his entrance.
> >
> > "We are state of the art pomposity and arrogance up here," remarks the
> > aide. "So when a witness displays those traits so egregiously that
> > even the senators notice, you know we're in trouble." His NATO
> > subordinates call him, not with affection, "the Supreme Being".
> >
> > "Clark is smart," concludes one who has monitored his career. "But his
> > whole life has been spent manipulating appearances (e.g. the doctored
> > OPFOR exercise) in the interests of his career. Now he is faced with a
> > reality he can't control." This observer concludes that, confronted
> > with the wily Slobodan and other unavoidable variables of war, Clark
> > will soon come unglued. "Watch the carpets at NATO HQ for teeth
> > marks."
> >
> > http://www.counterpunch.org/clark.html
> >
> > __________________________________________________ __________
> > WESLEY CLARK ALMOST TRIGGERS WORLD WAR 3
> > The Guardian
> >
> > Robertson's plum job in a warring Nato
> >
> > As Blair's man is installed, Richard Norton-Taylor details the way the
> > alliance generals have been fighting
> >
> > Tuesday August 3, 1999
> >
> > No sooner are we told by Britain's top generals that the Russians
> > played a crucial role in ending the west's war against Yugoslavia than
> > we learn that if Nato's supreme commander, the American General Wesley
> > Clark, had had his way, British paratroopers would have stormed
> > Pristina airport threatening to unleash the most frightening crisis
> > with Moscow since the end of the cold war.
> >
> > "I'm not going to start the third world war for you," General Sir Mike
> > Jackson, commander of the international K-For peacekeeping force, is
> > reported to have told Gen Clark when he refused to accept an order to
> > send assault troops to prevent Russian troops from taking over the
> > airfield of Kosovo's provincial capital.
> >
> > Hyperbole, perhaps. But, by all accounts, Jackson was deadly serious.
> > Clark, as he himself observed, was frustrated after fighting a war
> > with his hands tied behind his back, and was apparently willing to
> > risk everything for the sake of amour-propre .
> >
> > Nato's increasingly embarrassing, not to say ineffective, air assault
> > on Yugoslavia, had ended. It was over, not least as General Sir
> > Charles Guthrie, chief of the defence staff, acknowledged in an
> > interview with the Guardian, thanks to the intervention of Moscow -
> > its refusal to come to the aid of Belgrade. The point was emphatically
> > underlined by Jackson in a further interview over the weekend with the
> > Sunday Telegraph.
> >
> > "The event of June 3 [when Moscow urged Milosevic to surrender] was
> > the single event that appeared to me to have the greatest significance
> > in ending the war," said Jackson. Asked about the bombing campaign, he
> > added pointedly: "I wasn't responsible for the air campaign, you're
> > talking to the wrong person."
> >
> > Having helped Nato out of its predicament, Moscow was embroiled in
> > arguments with Washington about the status of Russian troops in the
> > K-For operation. For reasons to do with efficiency as much as power
> > politics, the west insisted the Russian contingent must be "Nato-led".
> > With or without Yeltsin's say-so, on June 12 a group of some 200
> > Russian troops drove out of Bosnia - where they were serving with the
> > Nato-led S-For stabilisation force - and in full view of the world's
> > television cameras made for Pristina airport where Jackson had planned
> > to set up his K-For headquarters guarded by British paratroopers.
> >
> > The Russians had made a political point, not a military one. It was
> > apparently too much for Clark. According to the US magazine, Newsweek,
> > General Clark ordered an airborne assault on the airfield by British
> > and French paratroopers. General Jackson refused. Clark then asked
> > Admiral James Ellis, the American commander of Nato's southern
> > command, to order helicopters to occupy the airport to prevent Russian
> > Ilyushin troop carriers from sending in reinforcements. Ellis replied
> > that the British General Jackson would oppose such a move. In the end
> > the Ilyushins were stopped when Washington persuaded Hungary, a new
> > Nato member, to refuse to allow the Russian aircraft to fly over its
> > territory.
> >
> > Jackson got full support from the British government for his refusal
> > to carry out the American general's orders. When Clark appealed to
> > Washington, he was allegedly given the brush-off. The American is said
> > to have complained to Jackson about the British general's refusal to
> > accept the order to take over Pristina airfield, and Jackson's
> > subsequent appeal to his political masters when Clark visited Kosovo
> > on June 24.
> >
> > The unsuccessful issuing of Clark's order has left a bitter taste,
> > especially given the delay in US marines joining the K-For operation -
> > a delay which Jackson had been prepared to indulge even though it held
> > up the entry into Kosovo. Had the British general carried out Clark's
> > instruction, all hope for a compromise with the Russians would have
> > been shattered. In the end, Nato and Moscow reached a compromise and
> > General Jackson willingly provided water and other supplies to
> > stranded Russian paratroopers holed up at the airfield. He swallowed
> > any hurt pride he might have had by insisting, not entirely
> > convincingly, that control of the airfield was not important.
> >
> > The episode triggers reminiscences of the Korean war. Then, General
> > Douglas MacArthur, commander of the UN force, wanted to invade, even
> > nuke, China, until he was brought to heel by President Truman. So
> > concerned was Clement Attlee that he urgently flew to Washington to
> > put an end to such madness. MacArthur was relieved of his command.
> >
> > The comparison, of course, is not exact, but worth recording
> > nonetheless. Last week, Clark was told in a telephone conversation
> > from General Henry Shelton, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff,
> > that he must leave his post early and make way for an older man,
> > General Joseph Ralston, a favourite of the American defence secretary,
> > William Cohen. Clark fell victim, not only to the Pristina airfield
> > row, but to his tense relationship with Washington throughout the war
> > - his repeated requests for more aircraft, including Apache
> > helicopters (never used in conflict because of the risk to pilots),
> > the need for a ground force contingency plan and an altogether more
> > effective strategy against Milosevic, a man he got to know well during
> > the 1995 Dayton peace negotiations on Bosnia. Asked to comment on
> > Clark's forced retirement, Jackson replied: "He is my superior officer
> > and that's it."
> >
> > So Nato will have a new supreme military commander close to Cohen and
> > a new secretary-general - George Robertson - equally close to the US
> > defence secretary as documents released under the US freedom of
> > information act and reported today elsewhere in this newspaper
> > testify. Though Nato was looking for a German - the defence minister,
> > Rudolf Scharping declined - Robertson is said to have the enthusiastic
> > support of the French and German governments to succeed the Spaniard,
> > Javier Solana, who will take up a new post responsible for developing
> > the EU's incipient common foreign and security policy.
> >
> > What does Robertson's appointment - expected to be formally approved
> > tomorrow - signify ? He is regarded as having a "safe" pair of hands.
> > He is unlikely to take risks. His main task will be to straddle the
> > Atlantic, to help patch fissures in the alliance which almost cracked
> > during the Kosovo war, and to persuade the Europeans to cooperate more
> > effectively in the defence and security field.
> >
> > Robertson has talked much of "defence diplomacy". He will need to put
> > this into practice, no more so than in Nato's relations with Russia,
> > as the transatlantic alliance looks towards the east. The superficial
> > rhetoric, Anglo-American arrogance, and the dangerously presumptuous
> > approach towards Moscow, must be laid to rest.
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/Kosovo/Sto...208123,00.html
> > __________________________________________________ _____
> > CLARK DODGES MOST OF SERVICE IN VIETNAM WAR
> >
> > David H. Hackworth
> > DEFENDING AMERICA
> > April 20, 1999
> > CLARK AND VIETNAM.
> >
> > NATO's Wesley Clark is not the Iron Duke, nor is he Stormin' Norman.
> > Unlike Wellington and Schwarzkopf, Clark's not a muddy boots soldier.
> > He's a military politician, without the right stuff to produce victory
> > over Serbia.
> >
> > Known by those who've served with him as the "Ultimate Perfumed
> > Prince," he's far more comfortable in a drawing room discussing
> > political theories than hunkering down in the trenches where bullets
> > fly and soldiers die. An intellectual in warrior's gear. A saying
> > attributed to General George Patton was that it took 10 years with
> > troops alone before an officer knew how to empty a bucket of spit As a
> > serving soldier with 33 years of active duty under his pistol belt,
> > Clark's commanded combat units -- rifle platoon to tank division - for
> > only seven years. The rest of his career's been spent as an aide, an
> > executive, a student and teacher and a staff weenie.
> >
> > Very much like generals Maxwell Taylor and William Westmoreland, the
> > architect and carpenter of the Vietnam disaster, Clark was earmarked
> > and then groomed early in his career for big things. At West Point he
> > graduated No. 1 in his class, and even though the Vietnam War was
> > raging and chewing up lieutenants faster than a machine gun can spit
> > death, he was seconded to Oxford for two years of contemplating
> > instead of to the trenches to lead a platoon.
> >
> > A year after graduating Oxford, he was sent to Vietnam, where, as a
> > combat leader for several months, he was bloodied and muddied. Unlike
> > most of his classmates, who did multiple combat tours in the killing
> > fields of Southeast Asia, he spent the rest of the war sheltered in
> > the ivy towers of West Point or learning power games first hand as a
> > White House fellow.
> >
> > The war with Serbia has been going full tilt for almost a month and
> > Clark's NATO is like a giant standing on a concrete pad wielding a
> > sledgehammer crushing Serbian ants. Yet, with all its awesome might,
> > NATO hasn't won a round. Instead, Milosovic is still calling all the
> > shots from his Belgrade bunker, and all that's left for Clark is to
> > react. Milosevic plays the fiddle and Clark dances the jig. 'Stormin'
> > Norman or any good infantry sergeant major would have told Clark that
> > conventional air power alone could never win a war -- it must be
> > accompanied by boots on the ground.
> >
> > German air power didn't beat Britain. Allied air power didn't beat
> > Germany. More air power than was used against the Japanese and Germans
> > combined didn't win in Vietnam. Forty three days of pummeling in the
> > open desert where there was no place to hide didn't KO Saddam. That
> > fight ended only when Schwarzkopf unleashed the steel ground fist he'd
> > carefully positioned before the first bomb fell.
> >
> > Doing military things exactly backwards, the scholar general is now,
> > according to a high ranking Pentagon source, in "total panic mode" as
> > he tries to mass the air and ground forces he finally figured out he
> > needs to win the initiative. Mass is a principle of war. Clark has
> > violated this rule along with the other eight vital principles. Any
> > mud soldier will tell you if you don't follow the principles of war
> > you lose.
> >
> > One of the salient reasons Wellington whipped Napoleon in 1815 at
> > Waterloo is that the Corsican piecemealed his forces. Clark's done the
> > same thing with his air power. He started with leisurely pinpricks and
> > now is attempting to increase the pain against an opponent with an
> > almost unlimited threshold. Similar gradualism was one of the reasons
> > for defeat in Vietnam.
> >
> > Another mistake Clark's made is not knowing his enemy. Taylor and
> > Westmoreland made this same error in Vietnam. Like the Vietnamese, the
> > Serbs are fanatic warriors who know better than to fight
> > conventionally in open formations. They'll use the rugged terrain and
> > bomber bad weather to conduct the guerrilla operations they've been
> > preparing for over 50 years.
> >
> > And they're damn good at partisan warfare. Just ask any German 70
> > years or older if a fight in Serbia will be another Desert Storm. It's
> > the smart general who knows when to retreat. If Clark lets pride stand
> > in the way of military judgment, expect a long and bloody war.

>
> He is a strange guy for a 4 star General!

 
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