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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:45:18 -0400, in <>,
JK <> said:

>Why are many new digital cameras being released with lenses that
>are f4.8 or slower at max telephoto?

Because they're cheaper to make.

> Do the camera makers think
>that consumers won't realize how much this limits the existing light
>abilities of the cameras?

Yes, & with good reason.

> Many people want to take photos indoors
>without using a flash or tripod.

Yes, & I expect that they probably want a pony too, which is equally
feasible.
'Cheap', 'fast' or 'good' - pick any two. This rule is just as true of
cameras as it is with anything else.

> It is sad that there are so few digital
>cameras(especially small small ones) that perform well in low light.

The Canon Powershots are about as good as it gets.

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In article <bfqg1t$vos$>, Lionel <> writes:

>The Canon Powershots are about as good as it gets.





Uh... the Oly C 3030, C 4040, and C 5050 all have the f/1.8 lens
which is as fast as it gets in prosumer digital camera's.
With my C 4040Z indoors is nor problem, as long as there is
*reasonable* lighting.

But no question, I can take pics without flash in lower light levels
than my friends with their Cannon, or Sony digital camera's !

























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On 7/27/03 10:05 AM, in article
, "Allan Mayer"
<> wrote:

> In article <bfqg1t$vos$>, Lionel <> writes:
>
>> The Canon Powershots are about as good as it gets.
>
>
>
>
>
> Uh... the Oly C 3030, C 4040, and C 5050 all have the f/1.8 lens
> which is as fast as it gets in prosumer digital camera's.
> With my C 4040Z indoors is nor problem, as long as there is
> *reasonable* lighting.
>
> But no question, I can take pics without flash in lower light levels
> than my friends with their Cannon, or Sony digital camera's !
>
>
Uh... Allan that's "Canon" with ONE "n", not the weapon.



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In message <>,
JK <> wrote:

>I guess none of your friends have a Sony f717? It would be nice
>if Olympus includes an ISO 800 mode in its next cameras. Even
>if it is a bit noisy, sometimes one needs an extra stop. Getting
>an image with some noise is better than not getting an image.

ISO 800 is always better than using ISO 400 on the same camera,
underexposing by a stop, and pushing it back up in software. The noise
and signal are both less quantized, allowing the brain to more easily
distinguish between them.
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