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In article <beup5u$191k$>, maark <> wrote:
>On eBay auction #2939545013 (didn´t exist now !) was offered a camera
>FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after our
>agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th July
>2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx tracking
>number!

If you haven't heard it before, virtually all Ebay auctions specifying
payment by Western Union are frauds. And especially those crossing intl
borders, be it from the US to Russia, or just from the Czech Republic
to Italy. And then if the price is half what it should be, the odds
go from 99% to 100.

--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

>Subject: Re: eBay sham - WARNING !
>From: (Jason O'Rourke)
>Date: 7/14/03 12:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <bev0g3$2vrs$>
>
>In article <beup5u$191k$>, maark <> wrote:
>>On eBay auction #2939545013 (didn´t exist now !) was offered a camera
>>FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after our
>>agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th July
>>2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx tracking
>>number!
>
>If you haven't heard it before, virtually all Ebay auctions specifying
>payment by Western Union are frauds. And especially those crossing intl
>borders, be it from the US to Russia, or just from the Czech Republic
>to Italy. And then if the price is half what it should be, the odds
>go from 99% to 100.
>
>--
>Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com
>

I've gotten many Western Union payments with no problem. I think the key is to
check the feedbacks on the buyer.
Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
news:...
> >Subject: Re: eBay sham - WARNING !
> >From: (Jason O'Rourke)
> >Date: 7/14/03 12:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <bev0g3$2vrs$>
> >
> >In article <beup5u$191k$>, maark <>
wrote:
> >>On eBay auction #2939545013 (didn´t exist now !) was offered a camera
> >>FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after
our
> >>agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th July
> >>2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx
tracking
> >>number!
> >
> >If you haven't heard it before, virtually all Ebay auctions specifying
> >payment by Western Union are frauds. And especially those crossing intl
> >borders, be it from the US to Russia, or just from the Czech Republic
> >to Italy. And then if the price is half what it should be, the odds
> >go from 99% to 100.
> >
> >--
> >Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com
> >
>
> I've gotten many Western Union payments with no problem. I think the key
is to
> check the feedbacks on the buyer.
> Arthur Kramer
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>

Yes, feedback is king. Hmm. His feedback looks OK! So whats the deal?

>
> Yes, feedback is king. Hmm. His feedback looks OK! So whats the deal?
>
There's a recent article about such scams. I read it in a waiting room and
don't remember the magazine. But, it did point out that scammers use
trivial auctions, buy their own items, use friends, etc. to produce phony
feedback and inflate their ratings.

ArtKramr <> wrote:
>I've gotten many Western Union payments with no problem. I think the key is to
>check the feedbacks on the buyer.

This is about the seller, not the buyer. You can always wait for the funds
to clear before shipping the item anyway.

Feedback is worthless for identifying these sort of scammers. They either
fake it with phony auctions, or they just do a lot of honest $10 items
before moving on to the $1000 ripoffs. Ebay does not have a way of viewing
the size of the transactions, other than crudely viewing the recent ones.

The combo is still an axiom - anyone offering a unbelievable deal but will
only accept a western union wire transfer is about to rip you off.

--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

"Jason O'Rourke" <> wrote in message
news:bev50e$1fe$...
> The combo is still an axiom - anyone offering a unbelievable deal but will
> only accept a western union wire transfer is about to rip you off.

That's right. Here's the equation:

High value goods + Incredible price + Western union cash transfer = SCAM.

It's not worth the risk for the 1% of honest transactions in the above group.

--
Andrew Davidson

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:09:05 GMT, "Matt" <>
found these unused words floating about:

>
>"ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> >Subject: Re: eBay sham - WARNING !
>> >From: (Jason O'Rourke)
>> >Date: 7/14/03 12:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: <bev0g3$2vrs$>
>> >
>> >In article <beup5u$191k$>, maark <>
>wrote:
>> >>On eBay auction #2939545013 (didn´t exist now !) was offered a camera
>> >>FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after
>our
>> >>agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th July
>> >>2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx
>tracking
>> >>number!
>> >
>> >If you haven't heard it before, virtually all Ebay auctions specifying
>> >payment by Western Union are frauds. And especially those crossing intl
>> >borders, be it from the US to Russia, or just from the Czech Republic
>> >to Italy. And then if the price is half what it should be, the odds
>> >go from 99% to 100.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com
>> >
>>
>> I've gotten many Western Union payments with no problem. I think the key
>is to
>> check the feedbacks on the buyer.
>> Arthur Kramer
>> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
>> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>>
>
>Yes, feedback is king. Hmm. His feedback looks OK! So whats the deal?
>
Since the originating poster couldn't find the auction page a second
time, perhap he/she/it (or even the sender) mis-typed the Fed-Ex
number?

<always scream before checking>

"ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> I've gotten many Western Union payments with no problem. I think the key
is to
> check the feedbacks on the buyer.
> Arthur Kramer
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>

Be careful because what they do is hijack accounts of others ... the
best thing to do is to eMail them and watch the story .. if they sound dodgy
they probably are .. if the price seems to good to be true it probably is.

What I do is send eMail to them asking them where they are...

When they respond I reply saying "that's fantastic .. I have a friend who
lives near there i'll get them to come and pick it up, they'll have money
with them".

If they won't accept that then it's time to stop dealing with them.

The other thing is to use the escrow service .. anyone unwilling to use that
type of service is not legitimate.

Matt <> wrote in message
news:A5EQa.53486$ et...
>
> "ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > >Subject: Re: eBay sham - WARNING !
> > >From: (Jason O'Rourke)
> > >Date: 7/14/03 12:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> > >Message-id: <bev0g3$2vrs$>
> > >
> > >In article <beup5u$191k$>, maark <>
> wrote:
> > >>On eBay auction #2939545013 (didn´t exist now !) was offered a camera
> > >>FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after
> our
> > >>agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th
July
> > >>2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx
> tracking
> > >>number!
> > >
> > >If you haven't heard it before, virtually all Ebay auctions specifying
> > >payment by Western Union are frauds. And especially those crossing
intl
> > >borders, be it from the US to Russia, or just from the Czech Republic
> > >to Italy. And then if the price is half what it should be, the odds
> > >go from 99% to 100.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com
> > >
> >
> > I've gotten many Western Union payments with no problem. I think the key
> is to
> > check the feedbacks on the buyer.
> > Arthur Kramer
> > Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> > http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
> >
>
> Yes, feedback is king. Hmm. His feedback looks OK! So whats the deal?


Many of the auctions of the feedback items will still be up, did you check
them? Are they all small, trivial items? 'Feedback inflation'.


Patrick.

you mentioned the Escrow service,
I just wanted to say that my son , who was defrauded of $50,000
on ebay used what he thought was the escrow service,
it was actually a a fake escrow website , put up by the crooks who stole his
paintings,
Ges Jones


"VH-MR2" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "ArtKramr" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> >
> > I've gotten many Western Union payments with no problem. I think the key
> is to
> > check the feedbacks on the buyer.
> > Arthur Kramer
> > Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> > http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
> >
>
> Be careful because what they do is hijack accounts of others ... the
> best thing to do is to eMail them and watch the story .. if they sound
dodgy
> they probably are .. if the price seems to good to be true it probably is.
>
> What I do is send eMail to them asking them where they are...
>
> When they respond I reply saying "that's fantastic .. I have a friend who
> lives near there i'll get them to come and pick it up, they'll have money
> with them".
>
> If they won't accept that then it's time to stop dealing with them.
>
> The other thing is to use the escrow service .. anyone unwilling to use
that
> type of service is not legitimate.
>
>
>
>